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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Quote Originally Posted by poopieface View Post
    Madara wasn't even cut in half when he got hit. He just looked really tired like he hadn't slept in a while, but was still able to jump towards the Tree and absorb it.

    Power scaling is a joke in this manga. Gai did more damage to Madara than God Jesus Naruto. Even just a rasengan should theoretically do serious damage to anyone, regardless of how strong they are. Like, seriously, just because someone has a lot of chakra doesn't mean they can stop worrying about kunai, right? Pain was defeated with a regular rasengan. Yet Tobito got hit with a pretty big rasengan by Minato and just lost his wood arm.

    Conclusion: Rasengan techniques are only as strong as the plot needs them to be.
    Yes and even a plan sage mode rasengan affected jubito with a rinnegan. The preta path logic is applicable to jubito as well I suppose??
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Quote Originally Posted by ankitpsaraogi View Post
    If she was damaged, that means she did not absorb it.
    And the frs are more powerful than a slash. The wind energy should have torn her to pieces

    Even a sharingan cannot count the number of attacks a rasenshuriken makes
    Most likely she absorbed some but not all the attacks. I don't think she or anyone can unconsciously just absorb chakra/jutsu. I believe she absorbed some of the chakra but the bijuu inside her reacted to naruto's attack and then went berserk, causing Kagaya to stop absorbing the attacks and that's why she was sent back/flying. Also the slash/chakra claw was a condensed attack that targeted only 1 part of the body, while these attacks attacked her entire body, instead of one specific point. As with the LRS that cut down the tree, the tree was not destroyed but just cut down. The specific point could not take the damage, however the tree did take the explosion damage of the juubi's TBB which damaged the entire tree. So unless 1 LRS is stronger than 4 juubi TBBs then usually a condensed attack will do more damage to that specific point, than an explosive attack.
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    She absorbed it.
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    naruto never cut madara, he damage him
    and kaguya is alot stronger than madara, the fact that naruto is able to do all these things to kaguya the ultimate being in the NV should be a praise by itself, this is the strongest being, greater than the juubi.
     
         
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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Its NAruto, logic died the first day, Kishimoto sat in a desk with a paper and a pencil.
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Quote Originally Posted by ankitpsaraogi View Post
    Well. How did that rasenshuriken at judara affect him.?
    And then all that power was literally wasted and kaguya used it to recharge herself?
    My point is, so much of wind chakra can cut through anything. Kaguya should have literally been in pieces.
    Even same applies for judara and edo madara

    No
    Madara only had 1 rinnegan eye at the still never was able to recover and half his body was blown off
    Naruto cut like half way though Madara body if he was cut in half he would die from blood lost.

    Also Kaguya never recharged herself she most likely is gone now because her inner powers are now unstable and has its own mind
    She can absorb all ninjustu with her whole body not just living a hand and absorbing it

    Dont underestimate Kaguya a blast like that's is not enough
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    I think some of the rasenshurikens actually weakened each other (according to the elemental vulnerabilities)
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Kaguya is very old. Don;t remove her clothes. Also Naruto threw 9 Bijuu RSs on Kaguya to defeat her but instead it mis-balanced her chakra control.
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Quote Originally Posted by ankitpsaraogi View Post
    Well. How did that rasenshuriken at judara affect him.?
    And then all that power was literally wasted and kaguya used it to recharge herself?
    My point is, so much of wind chakra can cut through anything. Kaguya should have literally been in pieces.
    Even same applies for judara and edo madara

    No
    She has Rinnegan FYI and it can absorb all jutsu so she may have absorbed it like Maddy first did before plot no jutsu nerfed him
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Quote Originally Posted by shanee View Post
    I miss when people died from Kuni knifes...
    Who actually died from Kunia knifes? Besides Fodder and Yahiko who deliberately drove the knife into his own heart.
     
         
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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rihsus View Post
    You wanna see Kaguya naked? Is that it?
    i was gonna say this too.. hahahah
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    she is the originator of the chakra so yeah. we all know that the normal rasenshuriken is powerful enough, now that he combined it with tailed beast elements it is over 9000. its not like kishi weakened the rasenshuriken, it just shows us that kaguya is on a whole different level i mean really godly level to withstand the stbrs. and it did have effect on her, the ten tails got unstable and popped out of her body.
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Quote Originally Posted by The Invincible Ninja God View Post
    Who actually died from Kunia knifes? Besides Fodder and Yahiko who deliberately drove the knife into his own heart.
    And ANBU ..
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    People are literally hunting for things to moan about.
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

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    And ANBU ..

    I consider random Anbu to be fodder
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    The problem here is that Rasenshuriken doesn't slash or cut, it destroys cells microscopically upon impact. Naruto cut of her arm probably because of one of the Bijuu's powers.
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Quote Originally Posted by ankitpsaraogi View Post
    The first time naruto used Rasenshuriken, it was shown as if it was the strongest jutsu ever.
    Then Naruto fired a gigantic sage mode rasenshuriken on edo madara and he was unaffected.
    Naruto fired a sage mode son goku powered rasenshuriken at judara and he was cut in half. So cool.
    Now naruto slashes at Kaguya and rips off an arm..
    After that Naruto fires 9 bijuu rasen shurikens and it doesnt even rip off her clothes ...
    That included the son goku powered rasen shuriken.
    The slash of naruto did more damage than 9 biju powered rasenshurikens??
    I dont like kishi devaluing rasen shurikens to this extent.


    What are ur views?

    Remember when it was first used on Kakuzu... Tsunade said that it destroyed your chakra points on a cellular level and made you unable to use Ninjutsu EVER AGAIN!... and they all told naruto to never use it for same reason cause he wasnt strong enough to widthstand its own power....
    ... Then he learned sage mode and was once again able to use it.... BUT>>>> now the affect of it destroying chakra points seems to be forgotten or otherwise kayuga would be rendered useless at this point.
     
         
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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    pretty sure the point was just to disrupt the bijuu chakra.
     
         

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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rihsus View Post
    You wanna see Kaguya naked? Is that it?
    She is the ancestor of both Hinata and Tsunade. She has to have them goodies on her.

    Quote Originally Posted by hixa kuogame View Post
    The slash at Kaguya is a physical attack. It's well known that only physical attacks work on rinnegan users. Rinnegan users have the preta path in order to absorb ninjustu which is what Kaguya did while at the same time absorbing the bijuu's chakra and the shockwave of the rasenshuriken themselves which were enough to knock Kaguya back.
    Actually, Naruto cut her arm off with a chakra claw.

    Quote Originally Posted by WalksInShadows View Post
    pretty sure the point was just to disrupt the bijuu chakra.
    How would he know this will happen?
     
         
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    Re: Rasen Shuriken Logic??

    Logic? In Naruto?
     
         

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