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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

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    There will always be people trying to destroy peace and misuse the power of the Tailed Beasts, what happens the next time someone like Madara comes along and no one can stop him?

    The powers are permanent, the Sage said they would decide the future, so he gave them the powers to help them achieve their goal.

    He wouldn't have asked what they were going to do after the war if the powers were temporary.
    Yeah none of this countered what I said. First point you make is invalid because Naruto is NOT immortal. And really... another Madara in Naruto's lifetime? Get real! Also without BZ what would have become of Madara?

    The last two point has no depth, the future doesn't exist while IT is in place (the goal being to stop it), so once that's gone they won't need Rikodu's power to work to build their ideal futures.
     
         
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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

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    Yeah none of this countered what I said. First point you make is invalid because Naruto is NOT immortal. And really... another Madara in Naruto's lifetime? Get real! Also without BZ what would have become of Madara?

    The last two point has no depth, the future doesn't exist while IT is in place (the goal being to stop it), so once that's gone they won't need Rikodu's power to work to build their ideal futures.

    when the time comes naruto will decide what to do with them, They were in the sage and when it came to sage dying he decided to set them free to run wild, and that was a mistake on its own.

    your not thinking of the inbetween, how naruto would achieve peace. Naruto is ofcourse the child of the prophecy, and it was set out for him to be the one to achieve peace in the NV, but when that time comes I am sure the beast will be in an era that is safe for them.

    the Rikodu's power is not for everyone to use to build their future, it belongs to naruto to protect his friends and family. that was the answer he gave to the sage after all, the sage wanted to see what he would use the power for.
    and if the sage wanted to know what he wanted to use the power for, I am sure he didn't want him to just defeat madara with it.
     
         
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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

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    when the time comes naruto will decide what to do with them, They were in the sage and when it came to sage dying he decided to set them free to run wild, and that was a mistake on its own.

    your not thinking of the inbetween, how naruto would achieve peace. Naruto is ofcourse the child of the prophecy, and it was set out for him to be the one to achieve peace in the NV, but when that time comes I am sure the beast will be in an era that is safe for them.

    the Rikodu's power is not for everyone to use to build their future, it belongs to naruto to protect his friends and family. that was the answer he gave to the sage after all, the sage wanted to see what he would use the power for.
    and if the sage wanted to know what he wanted to use the power for, I am sure he didn't want him to just defeat madara with it.
    Okay... when did I say he would release the bijuu to run wild? When did I say the Rikodu power belongs to everyone? Are you even reading my entire posts?

    Please to presume to know what I'm thinking nor be so arrogant to think your idea is only one way to achieve peace in the NV.

    I'm sure if the sage could he would allow Naruto to have the power forever, I just don't think that's within his ability to do. Eventually the chakra the sage gave him will be used up. That's just what I think would be best for the story.

    Just as an aside Rikudo's mistake, at least from his point of view, wasn't allowing the bijuu to be free, it was leaving the legacy of hatred between his two sons.
     
         
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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Draxus View Post
    Okay... when did I say he would release the bijuu to run wild? When did I say the Rikodu power belongs to everyone? Are you even reading my entire posts?

    Please to presume to know what I'm thinking nor be so arrogant to think your idea is only one way to achieve peace in the NV.

    I'm sure if the sage could he would allow Naruto to have the power forever, I just don't think that's within his ability to do. Eventually the chakra the sage gave him will be used up. That's just what I think would be best for the story.

    Just as an aside Rikudo's mistake, at least from his point of view, wasn't allowing the bijuu to be free, it was leaving the legacy of hatred between his two sons.
    I don't think so. The sage has been living with his power for all of time basically. Even with all the fighting he did and everything else the sage still had the power to give to naruto. So, it's safe to assume that this power is permanent and that naruto will have it for the rest of his life.

    Plus, the sage said he 'gave' the chakra away. As in not coming back...GAVE.

    The sage said that his way of thinking was too naive as he didnt see the tailed beasts being used as weapons beforehand. So, letting them roam free was his mistake. But as soon as he said that, then naruto and the tailed beast countered him by saying he was wrong to think he was being naive.

    So, there is a strong possibility that naruto will let the beast roam free and just keep a piece for himself.

     
         
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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

    Quote Originally Posted by jiraiya nindo View Post
    I don't think so. The sage has been living with his power for all of time basically. Even with all the fighting he did and everything else the sage still had the power to give to naruto. So, it's safe to assume that this power is permanent and that naruto will have it for the rest of his life.

    Plus, the sage said he 'gave' the chakra away. As in not coming back...GAVE.
    And now that he gave it away it can be used up. When did I say it was going back to the sage? Do live on a farm? You seem to love building straw men.

    Quote Originally Posted by jiraiya nindo View Post
    The sage said that his way of thinking was too naive as he didnt see the tailed beasts being used as weapons beforehand. So, letting them roam free was his mistake. But as soon as he said that, then naruto and the tailed beast countered him by saying he was wrong to think he was being naive.

    So, there is a strong possibility that naruto will let the beast roam free and just keep a piece for himself.
    I don't think this point helps your case. Rikodu said it was mistake, but Naruto clearly disagrees. I was actually referring to what Hagoromo said when he first created the bijuu and told them they would find someone to take them down the correct path unlike him.
     
         

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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingSmoke View Post
    A part 3 is being very anticipated right now. And the way I see it, and many others will agree, Naruto being the strongest man on earth at that point in time will mean that nobody will even consider stepping to him. And if so, that may only be Sasuke at the end of the series if they fight for Hokage.

    Or maybe Part 3 will have a much, much lesser emphasis on fighting... which I totally wouldn't mind. What do you think?
    Plotwisely speaking, both Naruto and Sasuke should lose all powers related to the Ootsutsuki bloodline (this includes even lifeforce -in case of Naruto- and Sharingan -in case of Sasuke-, and Hagoromo's powerups).
     
         

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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Draxus View Post
    Okay... when did I say he would release the bijuu to run wild? When did I say the Rikodu power belongs to everyone? Are you even reading my entire posts?

    Please to presume to know what I'm thinking nor be so arrogant to think your idea is only one way to achieve peace in the NV.

    I'm sure if the sage could he would allow Naruto to have the power forever, I just don't think that's within his ability to do. Eventually the chakra the sage gave him will be used up. That's just what I think would be best for the story.

    Just as an aside Rikudo's mistake, at least from his point of view, wasn't allowing the bijuu to be free, it was leaving the legacy of hatred between his two sons.
    in on of your earlier post you stated them being release " They have to release eventually, "
    and I might have confuse with who you refering to when you were talking about

    "The last two point has no depth, the future doesn't exist while IT is in place (the goal being to stop it), so once that's gone they won't need Rikodu's power to work to build their ideal futures."

    I haven't given you an idea how to achieve peace in NV, because I honestly don't know how he's going to do that

    the bijuu being release was what led up to these events, there power were used for war.
     
         

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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Hiru View Post
    Plotwisely speaking, both Naruto and Sasuke should lose all powers related to the Ootsutsuki bloodline (this includes even lifeforce -in case of Naruto- and Sharingan -in case of Sasuke-, and Hagoromo's powerups).
    what would be the point of them losing power, after we saw the peak of what they could do, I think they should give sasuke another power up and then turn him into a villain if they going to do a part 3

    then they could continue with what the sage toad saw

     
         
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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

    Naruto is exceptional even without all those powers. Remember:

    He has massive chakra pool, something of what Kakashi was in awe without counting Kurama.
    He gained control of Kurama's chakra (back in part 1 to counter Neji) in a ridiculous short amount of time.
    He mastered Rasengan in a week.
    He made an above S-rank technique, something that his predecessors couldn't even dream of.
    He perfected Sage Mode.
    Bettered the usage of Rasenshuriken in a short amount of time ( being able to throw such a dense form of chakra).

    So I need to go on? It's basically his ability and potential, not affected by given powers. Naruto is majestic even without outter powers.
     
         

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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    in on of your earlier post you stated them being release " They have to release eventually, "
    and I might have confuse with who you refering to when you were talking about
    I was talking about when Naruto dies. I personally think Naruto will find jin's for all the beast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    I haven't given you an idea how to achieve peace in NV, because I honestly don't know how he's going to do that

    the bijuu being release was what led up to these events, there power were used for war.
    I'm glad we can agree that he doesn't necessarily need Rikodu's power to protect his family and friends then.

    You can't possibly believe the fact that bijuu were released has more to do with the current events of the manga than Black Zetsu. Keeping the power of the Bijuu to himself is not much different than what Madara or Kaguya wanted to do. Yes humans may use them for war, but if not bijuu it be jutsu, if not jutsu it be weapons, and without weapons it be with bare fists. The Bijuu are inconsequential.
     
         

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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingSmoke View Post
    A part 3 is being very anticipated right now. And the way I see it, and many others will agree, Naruto being the strongest man on earth at that point in time will mean that nobody will even consider stepping to him. And if so, that may only be Sasuke at the end of the series if they fight for Hokage.

    Or maybe Part 3 will have a much, much lesser emphasis on fighting... which I totally wouldn't mind. What do you think?
    My answer is No, Naruto will not lose his powers. Rather, he will have even more powers. Why?
    Because manga-logic. The last guys who was a legend was Hagoromo. He failed to establish peace, or achieve his goal. The new legend will erase the last one. So what's next?

    Well, we have seen Sasuke's Rinnegan. Note very well. It was called "Sasuke's Rinnegan". Now, we have seen Kakashi's PS and it made Sasuke shit in his pant. Folks, Have you ever considered Naruto's dojutsu? The power of the NarutoGod?
     
         

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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

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    I was talking about when Naruto dies. I personally think Naruto will find jin's for all the beast.



    I'm glad we can agree that he doesn't necessarily need Rikodu's power to protect his family and friends then.

    You can't possibly believe the fact that bijuu were released has more to do with the current events of the manga than Black Zetsu. Keeping the power of the Bijuu to himself is not much different than what Madara or Kaguya wanted to do. Yes humans may use them for war, but if not bijuu it be jutsu, if not jutsu it be weapons, and without weapons it be with bare fists. The Bijuu are inconsequential.
    Those jutsu and weapons can't end the world with the Infinite Tsukuyomi like the Tailed Beasts can.

    If Naruto just releases them then someone will round them up again and try this whole thing all over again, even Sasuke was against them being used as weapons again that is why he tried to destroy them.
     
         

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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

    Quote Originally Posted by saw2097 View Post
    Those jutsu and weapons can't end the world with the Infinite Tsukuyomi like the Tailed Beasts can.

    If Naruto just releases them then someone will round them up again and try this whole thing all over again, even Sasuke was against them being used as weapons again that is why he tried to destroy them.
    Wow... do you read the manga? The only other person able to perform IT currently is Sasuke, not sure who you think this mysterious "someone" could be. If you're talking about the next Indria carnation, then Naruto would be dead so your point is moot. Also without BZ or the tablet how would this new Indria learn the jutsu needed to do IT.

    Your point about Sasuke just proves he was similar to Indria, Madara, and Kaguya's way of thinking. Are you saying Sasuke was right? Because as far as I can tell, his way of thinking has been trumped by Naruto's throughout the entire manga.
     
         

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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

    What happened this chapter?
     
         

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    Re: Will Naruto lose all of his powers after the war?

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    What happened this chapter?
    It has been established if they lost the powers or not yet.
     
         

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