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    Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    You remember, how towards the end of his fight with Pain, he had managed to seperate one Pain from the rest and kill him inside his Toad Gourd Prison barrier?



    Well, while he was still in there, he could have had had Ma and Pa prep their Toad Confrontation Chant - a sound-based genjutsu which he already used to solo three paths a few minutes earlier



    The genjutsu takes a few minutes of prep time: so Ma and Pa could have begun singing and then harmonized their voices within the safety of the barrier. So when Jiraiya pops out of the barrier, boom! All six pains get solo'd at once.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Don't think the toads throats or chakra could have handled it.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Almighty push and chibaku tensei ends jiraiya easily
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    No arguing, Pein said himself that they only won because he did not know his secret.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    It's not that easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanithe View Post
    No arguing, Pein said himself that they only won because he did not know his secret.
    If Jiraiya had known Pain was Yahiko, Jiraiya would of Talk no Jutsu'd Pain and made him leave the Akatsuki sooner. That's what Nagato was afraid of.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    well im pretty sure anyone with a working brain could understand jiraiya solos pain. any day!
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Honestly, he could've won but it was plot-no-jutsu. Can't have itachi die and cause sasuke more pain and have naruto not understanding the pain of lost.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Quote Originally Posted by narutodude3 View Post
    well im pretty sure anyone with a working brain could understand jiraiya solos pain. any day!
    Then why didn't he?
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Pain already said he only won because of his secret. Manga fact. Frog song would have one shotted all of them had all 6 been assembled.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Nope, Nagato didn't use most of his OP jutsu, ningendo, shinra tense, chibaku tense, gedo mazo, bansho tense
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    What the Pain shits on Jiraiya every time
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Jaraiya needed to die for plot and story continuation... Even if he wasn't winning... He could have been reversed summoned to mt. M if needed
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    It's ironic that people ignore that bz said itachi was invulnerable but agree on what nagato said about jiraiya beating him
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    it's a good Idea
    but I think 6POP > hiraiya
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Could Of Went Both Ways, But That Bansho Tense, Shinra Tense Though
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Yeah but jiraiya was always gonna die, so it makes no difference.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Quote Originally Posted by riley freeman View Post
    Almighty push and chibaku tensei ends jiraiya easily
    nobody's using CT in that location
    OT: jiraiya only had a chance if he fought in the same way naruto did (full intel and element of surprise)
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Sage View Post
    nobody's using CT in that location
    OT: jiraiya only had a chance if he fought in the same way naruto did (full intel and element of surprise)
    Maybe, I doubt he wins tho
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    They already stated it hurt their throat too much to use it again. Reading is essential.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    The toads can't use Frog Song more than once.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    was it possible for him to win? yes. but did he, no. plot too st8.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    If j-man had the intel naruto had during the pain fight, jiraya would have shitted on all 6 pains
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Quote Originally Posted by xTsunadeSenju View Post
    If j-man had the intel naruto had during the pain fight, jiraya would have shitted on all 6 pains
    Too bad J-man had to die for that info to get obtained though.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Quote Originally Posted by the eagle View Post
    Too bad J-man had to die for that info to get obtained though.
    Also Deva path would have to be totally out of commission, and they would have to fight with the intent to capture...
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

    Quote Originally Posted by the eagle View Post
    Too bad J-man had to die for that info to get obtained though.
    We already know that Jman was taken down by plot
     
         

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