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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

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    Dude Naruto YANG chakra from the rikudou cloak is what enhanced yamato's wood element which is NOT possible without YANG energy/chakra.

    READ THIS QUOTE HERE CEARFULLY

    "The Yang Release (陽遁, Yōton) techniques, based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form."


    Breath life into form mmmm don't you think that this will be usefull for making a living thing like wood?
    Absorbing natural energy is still taking energy from nature trees are nature, how come Rikudou mode can't enhance sage mode if Naruto's life energy has a reaction to chakra enhanced trees, Naruto is taking chakra from his surrounding. If the life energy enhances chakra from nature then it should be able to have a reaction. That was the purpose of Kish showing us that little detail.
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    he can't use shadow clones to collect sage chakra for him while he is in kyuubi mode so unless he stands still in the middle of battle in Kyuubi mode with his chakra being drained he can't get sage chakra and if he is in sage mode and has clones collect sage chakra for him he can't go into kyuubi mode because the clones will cause him to die

    so he has to stand still in untill he gets sage mode then turn into kyuubi mode inorder for the cross to work and that immpossible in the middle of battle

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Quote Originally Posted by Orochimaru the Snake View Post
    he can't use shadow clones to collect sage chakra for him while he is in kyuubi mode so unless he stands still in the middle of battle in Kyuubi mode with his chakra being drained he can't get sage chakra and if he is in sage mode and has clones collect sage chakra for him he can't go into kyuubi mode because the clones will cause him to die

    so he has to stand still in untill he gets sage mode then turn into kyuubi mode inorder for the cross to work and that immpossible in the middle of battle

    read this
    He doesn't need clones to enter sage mode, he just used them to maintain it for a longer period.
    Also if he has enough concentration he might use the cloak to move around while he is in fact standing still.
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Quote Originally Posted by Minato Sensei View Post
    He doesn't need clones to enter sage mode, he just used them to maintain it for a longer period.
    Also if he has enough concentration he might use the cloak to move around while he is in fact standing still.
    still i doubt he will be able to use it in the middle of battle if he uses it Kyuubi to sage mode because of no clones while having to avoid his enemy
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Well it is kinda impossible to enter sage mode in the middle of the battle with or without shadow clones... unless you can fuse with the elder toads.
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Quote Originally Posted by Minato Sensei View Post
    Well it is kinda impossible to enter sage mode in the middle of the battle with or without shadow clones... unless you can fuse with the elder toads.
    Jiraiya did it, and he's worse at sage mode than Naruto is. Naruto can simply do what Jiraiya did while he was fighting Nagato, and that's to summon toads like Gamabunta and Gamakichi while he gathers nature chakra. It's not ideal, but... it would work. It wouldn't be nearly as effective the 2nd time around since he doesn't fight morons who would try to stop him.
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    the thing there's is a lot of possibilities for naruto to enter both sage mode and kyuubi mode. he can do this by first entering sage mode and then going into the kyuubi mode. simple as that.
    or if he want to do it the other way round, then he can just enter into the kyuubi mode and then go into sage mode.
    now in battle, here is where the problem steps in. my solution to it is that, to prevent any of this complication,, he can first go into sage mode and then come into the kyuubi mode when he want's to use his most fastest and strongest attack. after which he can just resort back to the sage mode.
    each of these modes has their own advantages and disadvantages. it's just up to naruto to exploit the good out of each
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    If he had unlimited sage/kiuby chakra/power he would be pretty unstoppable. Where's the fun in that? Rasenshuriken barrage all the way
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Quote Originally Posted by lord niijima View Post
    the thing there's is a lot of possibilities for naruto to enter both sage mode and kyuubi mode. he can do this by first entering sage mode and then going into the kyuubi mode. simple as that.
    or if he want to do it the other way round, then he can just enter into the kyuubi mode and then go into sage mode.
    now in battle, here is where the problem steps in. my solution to it is that, to prevent any of this complication,, he can first go into sage mode and then come into the kyuubi mode when he want's to use his most fastest and strongest attack. after which he can just resort back to the sage mode.
    each of these modes has their own advantages and disadvantages. it's just up to naruto to exploit the good out of each
    He can't go into Kyuubi then Sage mode in the middle of a fight

    with clones he could go into sage mode several times in the middle of the fight with Pain
    Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
    Jiraiya did it, and he's worse at sage mode than Naruto is. Naruto can simply do what Jiraiya did while he was fighting Nagato, and that's to summon toads like Gamabunta and Gamakichi while he gathers nature chakra. It's not ideal, but... it would work. It wouldn't be nearly as effective the 2nd time around since he doesn't fight morons who would try to stop him.
    he can't fuse with the elder toads remember so he can't do what Jiriya did
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    He couldn't before because of the kiuby's evil will. With the new seal he might be able to fuse with them.
    And also he could start the fight in sage mode, have 2 clones continue gather natural energy and when he uses the final clone to enter sage mode for the last time he also goes in SO6P mode and just end the fight.
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

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    Problem he can't use shadow clones to collect sage chakra for him while he is in kyuubi mode so unless he stands still in the middle of battle in Kyuubi mode with his chakra being drained he can't get sage chakra and if he is in sage mode and has clones collect sage chakra for him he can't go into kyuubi mode because the clones will cause him to die

    so he has to stand still in untill he gets sage mode then turn into kyuubi mode inorder for the cross to work and that immpossible in the middle of battle
    Naruto would automatically be gang-banged....:flaw::flaw:

    I do believe ge'll get to the balance point, but I ain't sseing aNymore clones doing his work.. that's old-style Naruto
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Quote Originally Posted by niblack89 View Post
    Absorbing natural energy is still taking energy from nature trees are nature, how come Rikudou mode can't enhance sage mode if Naruto's life energy has a reaction to chakra enhanced trees, Naruto is taking chakra from his surrounding. If the life energy enhances chakra from nature then it should be able to have a reaction. That was the purpose of Kish showing us that little detail.
    Do u know kishi ?

    The purpose was to show the yang properties of the wood element.

    Why do you think that they would react in the presence of pure yang chakra.
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Quote Originally Posted by niblack89 View Post
    -After reading this chapter and the following chapters it seems that Rikudou mode lacks in power and control. When Naruto first showed Rikudou mode and sucker punched Kisame he injured his leg from slamming on the wall so hard.

    Sage mode also makes his body impervious to physical damage.

    -We see next that while entering Rikudou mode the Kyuubi steal Naruto's base chakra so he can't stay in the form for long, we don't know how long but that's still a factor.

    Sage mode increases Naruto's chakra to at least 2 or 3 times its normal state so the kyuubi absorbing Naruto's chakra wouldn't be so bad.

    Now we see that the biju rasengan requires a great amount of chakra control and the sphere is great in density so great that the ground around Naruto's feet, the floor was broken.

    Sage mode grants Naruto unimaginable strength to the point he could stop a raging rhino easily and then toss it in the air. In sage mode Naruto could create a rasengan with one hand also his fight with the kyuubi showed he could actually use only one clone for the FRS, Naruto's chakra control is greater

    Naruto always can't complete something without anther thing. Example For Naruto to use a rasengan without clones he has to be in sage mode, another would be in order to use sage mode Naruto has to use clones, He uses clones for his rasengans.
    Rikudou mode seems to have a special power over nature that might even play a special role.
    Good theory. I already was wondering how Sage Mode would be included in the controlled Jinchurriki form and the recent chapters all seem to lead to him needing it just to use Rasengan and to fight freely. Maybe both techniques will feed into each other allowing them to be used longer, since they both have time limits due to various reasons. Naruto would likely need to gather more Sage Chakra to keep in balance with his controlled Jinchurriki power and the controlled Jinchurriki form could allow him to gather the chakra faster.

    So what do you think? I'm thinking Naruto enters controlled Jinchurriki form first and then gathers the Sage Chakra and enters into a perfect combination form.
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTDogg220 View Post
    Good theory. I already was wondering how Sage Mode would be included in the controlled Jinchurriki form and the recent chapters all seem to lead to him needing it just to use Rasengan and to fight freely. Maybe both techniques will feed into each other allowing them to be used longer, since they both have time limits due to various reasons. Naruto would likely need to gather more Sage Chakra to keep in balance with his controlled Jinchurriki power and the controlled Jinchurriki form could allow him to gather the chakra faster.

    So what do you think? I'm thinking Naruto enters controlled Jinchurriki form first and then gathers the Sage Chakra and enters into a perfect combination form.
    he can't do it that way in the middle of battle with out clones unless he stays still and he would get his ass kicked if that happened
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Quote Originally Posted by Modaro View Post
    Do u know kishi ?

    The purpose was to show the yang properties of the wood element.

    Why do you think that they would react in the presence of pure yang chakra.
    Then why don't normal people react with Naruto's chakra? Sage mode absorbs chakra from nature trees are nature. If a wooden todum can grow from his chakra then other nature elements should also. I'm not saying Naruto's chakra could make any tree grow.Just the chakra added to the tree from Yamato. If Naruto absorbs natural energy then the Rikudou cloak could grow the nature chakra added making it bigger. Its not fact its a theory that is gathered from that incident a prediction.

    At people who wondered how could Naruto gather the energy needed for sage mode and Rikudou mode. What if Naruto used a clone hide it for sage mode, the clone enters sage mode and Naruto uses Rikudou mode, the chakra gathered increases Rikudou mode's chakra or is added to Naruto's base chakra and Rikudou mode's chakra.The second seems to be the better one seeing as Naruto wouldn't have to worry about the kyuubi absorbing his chakra and can fight in Rikudou mode longer.
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Quote Originally Posted by niblack89 View Post
    Then why don't normal people react with Naruto's chakra? Sage mode absorbs chakra from nature trees are nature. If a wooden todum can grow from his chakra then other nature elements should also. I'm not saying Naruto's chakra could make any tree grow.Just the chakra added to the tree from Yamato. If Naruto absorbs natural energy then the Rikudou cloak could grow the nature chakra added making it bigger. Its not fact its a theory that is gathered from that incident a prediction.

    At people who wondered how could Naruto gather the energy needed for sage mode and Rikudou mode. What if Naruto used a clone hide it for sage mode, the clone enters sage mode and Naruto uses Rikudou mode, the chakra gathered increases Rikudou mode's chakra or is added to Naruto's base chakra and Rikudou mode's chakra.The second seems to be the better one seeing as Naruto wouldn't have to worry about the kyuubi absorbing his chakra and can fight in Rikudou mode longer.

    Dude other elements won't react, when will you get it the wood element only reacted because it has yang chakra and it was amplified by naruto's rikudou cloak of pure yang chakra.
     
         

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    Re: Sage mode completes Rikudou mode

    Quote Originally Posted by Modaro View Post
    Dude other elements won't react, when will you get it the wood element only reacted because it has yang chakra and it was amplified by naruto's rikudou cloak of pure yang chakra.
    I understand that but the same principal could be applied to natural energy. Natural energy is life energy too.
     
         

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