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    Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    the battle takes place some time after the death of Minato

    both are uninjured and normal at the start
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    You're comparing Jiraiya... to... Kage?
    Sarutobi Hokage is the one that managed to SEAL the 1st and second Hokage and Orochimaru Arms.
    He is Jiraiyas Sensei.
    He has CONTRACT with GOD OF DEATH.
    And he is at the level of The Ramen Guy.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    plz dont say that jiraiya cant be compared to a hokage
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Quote Originally Posted by IceShark View Post
    You're comparing Jiraiya... to... Kage?
    Sarutobi Hokage is the one that managed to SEAL the 1st and second Hokage and Orochimaru Arms.
    He is Jiraiyas Sensei.
    He has CONTRACT with GOD OF DEATH.
    And he is at the level of The Ramen Guy.
    come on even orochimaru killed him.jiraiya fought pain and almost won,jiraiya was asked to become the hokage, he is kage level.so im going with jiraiya.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    old man hiruzen sarutobi wins, he is incredible. fighting with oro, 1st hokage and 2nd hokage is something cool, really strong guy. he even mastered all jutsus of konoha, that is something.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    i like jiraiya but i'am with the 3th hokage he is the man who learned all the konoha secrets
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    The 3rd got this. This guy handles himself in battle like an Ace he is battle worthy. He steped down from kage just to step back up! He is a beast, a monster.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Quote Originally Posted by nagato2 View Post
    come on even orochimaru killed him.jiraiya fought pain and almost won,jiraiya was asked to become the hokage, he is kage level.so im going with jiraiya.
    Even? Are you seriously trying to imply that Orochimaru was weak? You really didn't know him at all.

    Just like IceShark said. Hiruzen was in his 80's and he still managed to seal both 1st and 2nd Hokages. He was in his 80's and he sealed Orochimaru's arms. The only reason Orochimaru managed to get away was because of Sarutobi's old age. He even admits this.

    Jiraiya was definitely a high caliber ninja, but I don't think he would have won against Jiraiya especially since the OP says the fight takes place some time after Minato's death. Sarutobi should younger than he was against Orochimaru.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Well the key part of this discussion is the time of combat. It is after 4th's death so Sarutobi isn't in his prime. Jiraiya is surely in his prime.
    Sarutobi beat 2 hokages but do you think these hokages were at their best when fighting him ? These two kages were considered the best ninja of there generations, notably the 1st fought he beat Madara Uchiha in his prime and who is now maybe the grand vilain of this manga. Do you think Sarutobi would have taken out this easily the 2 best senju ?
    Is it important that Sarutobi knows all of Konoha's jutsu ? Come on, Kakashi knows over 1000 jutsu but that doesn't mean he beats Jiraiya.
    Pain would have destroyed Sarutobi in his old days and Jiraiya almost beat him.
    I admit Sarutobi was stronger in his prime !

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    Pervy Sage takes this one because 3rd not in his prime.
     
         
    Last edited by JMAN; 03-02-2011 at 10:26 PM.

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Sarutobi is a kage so there's no question he would win u_u
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Quote Originally Posted by IceShark View Post
    You're comparing Jiraiya... to... Kage?
    Sarutobi Hokage is the one that managed to SEAL the 1st and second Hokage and Orochimaru Arms.
    He is Jiraiyas Sensei.
    He has CONTRACT with GOD OF DEATH.
    And he is at the level of The Ramen Guy.
    did you honestly just imply that Jiraiya is not Kage level? you sir are out of your mind or are new to the Naruto series. Either one. Jiraiya is AT LEAST Kage if not a little higher. His Sage mode takes him levels beyond Kage level.

    Hell, he almost defeated a so-called "God" if he knew one little secret.

    I am a huge Jiraiya fan, but without any bias I have to tell you, don't underestimate Jiraiya. I could go into several reasons why he's a lot stronger than most people think, and that's why hes my favorite character, because he's that unique.
     
         
    Last edited by Steinbiz; 03-02-2011 at 11:01 PM.

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugetsu View Post
    Sarutobi is a kage so there's no question he would win u_u
    So Killer bee can't beat tsunade who is kage ?
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    i know it was in the anime but people use refences from the anime all the time so w/e lol but didn't orochimaru say if sarutobi had been 10years younger he would have beaten oro and the hokages? (without dieing from the seal because oro didn't know about it yet) so orochimaru was the strongest battle-wise of the 3 sannin and this battle would take place 12 years before that, so sarutobi should be stronger then jiraiya still, and he did teach him everything but sage mode so he knows how smart and powerful jiraiya is and wouldn't be suprised by much.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    I just need to make a reply to myself by saying, although everything I said about Jiraiya was true, I'm not saying Hiruzen is weak at all either. He is another shinobi that is underestimated in the series a little bit. People say that someone like Pain would rape Hiruzen, well Pain would surely win but I think Hiruzen could survive for at least a few minutes with his skill and knowledge.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Sarutobi View Post
    i know it was in the anime but people use refences from the anime all the time so w/e lol but didn't orochimaru say if sarutobi had been 10years younger he would have beaten oro and the hokages? (without dieing from the seal because oro didn't know about it yet) so orochimaru was the strongest battle-wise of the 3 sannin and this battle would take place 12 years before that, so sarutobi should be stronger then jiraiya still, and he did teach him everything but sage mode so he knows how smart and powerful jiraiya is and wouldn't be suprised by much.
    Who Said oro is the strongest sannin battle wise?
    And the same goes for jiraiya, he knows his sensei well and must know his way of fighting too !
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Quote Originally Posted by Steinbiz View Post
    I just need to make a reply to myself by saying, although everything I said about Jiraiya was true, I'm not saying Hiruzen is weak at all either. He is another shinobi that is underestimated in the series a little bit. People say that someone like Pain would rape Hiruzen, well Pain would surely win but I think Hiruzen could survive for at least a few minutes with his skill and knowledge.
    Sorry to say but prime sarutobi would have I think beaten pain !
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    jiraiya
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Pretty close, but Hiruzen would win, because if you remember back to the 3 Sannin battle, Orochimaru with no arms and a very cautious Kabuto managed to stick with not at full power Jaraiya and Tsunade and a enraged Naruto!
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    the third
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    jiraiya will win he'll go into sage mode boss and ma'am will show up it'll be close but jiraiya wins:cali
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Quote Originally Posted by JMAN View Post
    Who Said oro is the strongest sannin battle wise?
    And the same goes for jiraiya, he knows his sensei well and must know his way of fighting too !
    well jiraiya knew sage mode and everything he should know now when he tried stoping oro from leaving the village and couldn't, and unless you think tsunade can beat orochimaru i'd say hes the strongest in a fight. none of his jutsu take like 15-20mins (or however long it took jiraiya to summon ma and pa) just to be able to use, hes nearly unkillable unless you can use TBB or seal him entirely like itachi. And they both several giant summons but i'd put manda>gamabunta for battles.

    i know most people say jiraiya is the strongest because sage mode and itachi and kisame didn't fight him but itachi caught oro in a genjutsu and tore his arm off, but what realisticly stops itachi from catching jiraiya in genjutsu and slashing his throat?

    you'd think so, but just because sarutobi knows everything he taught jiraiya doesn't mean jiraiya knows everything sarutobi does.
     
         

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    Nice Point^^
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Well i really want to go with The 3rd specially if your making him young.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya VS Hiruzen Sarutobi

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Sarutobi View Post
    well jiraiya knew sage mode and everything he should know now when he tried stoping oro from leaving the village and couldn't, and unless you think tsunade can beat orochimaru i'd say hes the strongest in a fight. none of his jutsu take like 15-20mins (or however long it took jiraiya to summon ma and pa) just to be able to use, hes nearly unkillable unless you can use TBB or seal him entirely like itachi. And they both several giant summons but i'd put manda>gamabunta for battles.

    i know most people say jiraiya is the strongest because sage mode and itachi and kisame didn't fight him but itachi caught oro in a genjutsu and tore his arm off, but what realisticly stops itachi from catching jiraiya in genjutsu and slashing his throat?

    you'd think so, but just because sarutobi knows everything he taught jiraiya doesn't mean jiraiya knows everything sarutobi does.
    Always well put
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Sarutobi View Post
    well jiraiya knew sage mode and everything he should know now when he tried stoping oro from leaving the village and couldn't, and unless you think tsunade can beat orochimaru i'd say hes the strongest in a fight. none of his jutsu take like 15-20mins (or however long it took jiraiya to summon ma and pa) just to be able to use, hes nearly unkillable unless you can use TBB or seal him entirely like itachi. And they both several giant summons but i'd put manda>gamabunta for battles.

    i know most people say jiraiya is the strongest because sage mode and itachi and kisame didn't fight him but itachi caught oro in a genjutsu and tore his arm off, but what realisticly stops itachi from catching jiraiya in genjutsu and slashing his throat?

    you'd think so, but just because sarutobi knows everything he taught jiraiya doesn't mean jiraiya knows everything sarutobi does.
    Well you know perfectly that when jiraiya fought oro when he wanted to leave jiraiya wasn't as strong as he is now and he didn't go all out on him because he was his friend on the other hand orochimaru didn't care about him.

    Why are you talking about itachi etc ... ?
    Oro got raped by him and itachi and kisame were scared, that was said why do people make excuses ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lostdreams View Post
    Well i really want to go with The 3rd specially if your making him young.
    Sarutobi isn't young in this one
    He ain't in his prime anymore
     
         
    Last edited by Caliburn; 03-04-2011 at 08:26 AM.

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