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    Jiraiya vs Kisame

    I think people really underestimate Kisame.

    When Jiraiya access's sage mode he has Ma and Pa with him. He cannott use any summonings.
    Kisame has samehada

    Both fighters are at full power and have full knowledge over eachother !

    Jiraiya does not start in sage mode.
     
         
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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    J-Man FTW

    but it would be a good fight
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    I wanna start off by pointing out the thing that I know all noobs will say Kisame said it himself in the first episodes that he was no match for Jiraiya. Not true. We have seen Kisame at full power vs Killer bee andall I can say is that was one hell of a close fight. I'm really not sure about the last part but I remember Raikage coming in to save Killer Bee :S
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

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    J-Man FTW

    but it would be a good fight
    Definitely a great fight ! :D
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    If Jiraiya tricked him into sucking the sage chakra like naruto did to pein then yeah j man but besides that i think kisame would have this
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Excite View Post
    If Jiraiya tricked him into sucking the sage chakra like naruto did to pein then yeah j man but besides that i think kisame would have this
    They have full knowledge broski ! :D So Kisame would be aware of that !
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Kisame will win specially when he use that jutsu that sorrounds a big sphere of water where he become a shark..that move will kill jiraiya =)

    frog vs shark OMG! do i have to answer this ? LOL!
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    thts kind of slated way in jiraiya's favor lol, kisame can't drain his chakra to wear him out since hes already starting in his final form and kisame's water jutsu aren't strong or fast enough to hit him with sage speed.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    but once your inside that water sphere its the end for you. . =)
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Jiraiyas hair needle technique thing would solve the problem of the water sphere. Itachi said that both he and Kisame wouldn't win against Jiraiya. It would be a close call but Jiraiya had more skill then Kisame who was all brute strength so I'm going with Jiraiya wins (with serious help from Gamabunta, Ma and Pa).
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    he can't use gamabunta, not that he needs 2 when hes starting in sage mode.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Jiraiya has lot of technique when hes on the land..but what if hes on the water..i mean sorrounded by water..he cant breath underwater..so its a great opportunity for kisame to strike jiraiya and beat him badly =)

    and samehada will it Ma and Pa LOL!
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    JIraiya wud win..
    No doubt on it..
    kisame is strong bt jiraiya is stronger..
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Jiraya would win...kisame's is insaely strong because of samehada's capability of absorbing chakra and transfering it to him making hims stronger and his opponent weaker but since sage chakra cannot be controlled it just leaves
    sage jiraya vs a talented suiton user in which case jiraya would pwn kisame
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Jman all the way !

    Hard fight, Kisame is really strong but Jman is a sannin known all around the world;

    Jman is fast ( sage mode ), lots of ninjutsu, taijutsu great ( sage mode ) , summons of extraordinary strength.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by oFuiinJutsuu View Post
    I think people really underestimate Kisame.

    Jiraiya is in sage mode with Ma and Pa. He cannott use any summonings.
    Kisame has samehada

    Both fighters are at full power and have full knowledge over eachother !
    Not so sure, ask someone else
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Jiraiya not being able to summon is kind of ridiculous, but it won't stop him. He almost killed Kisame once in one move, the toad's eso****us. Either way, Samehada is useless since it can't absorb nature chakra, nor the ninjutsu Jiraiya casts since they incorporate it. This neutralizes Kisame worse than no summons worsen Jiraiya (In a loophole, he could ask Ma or Pa to summon, lol).

    Advantage to Jiraiya in: experience, genjutsu (frog song), taijutsu (sage mode), ninjutsu (sage mode w/ fire, air, earth, and water + combination jutsu), and stamina/endurance (sage mode) since Kisame can't get free refills from Samehada.

    This is a very bad matchup for Kisame, strong or not, because of sage mode with nature chakra and the ineffectiveness of Samehada. The argument that Kisame beat Killer Bee and thus should beat Jiraiya is bogus, transitive inference fails all the time here, which is why it shouldn't be used, albeit mentioning techniques in the fight are valid. Knowing the secrets about sage mode aren't going to help Kisame either. It's just a bad matchup.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    wow this is an easy guess. Jiraiya will win hands Down. he will a very bad match for kisame. Once Kisame uses his samehada or any chkra sucking jutsu, hes done. Samehada will become a toad, lol.
    That being said, in Naruto Episode 83, Even Kisame amited that jiraiya, being a konoha sannin, both uchiha's name and the one of the 7 swordsmen seem petty before his name. Itachi admited that in the best case scenario if both he and kisame attacked him, all three would die and even him is not sure of that happeing. Furthermore, they both ran away from him when he summoned that mountain toad stomach
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    I'd go with J-man , Kisame got killed off pretty damn easily (quickly) if you ask me , too easily as a matter of fact , but in any case J-man put up this huge last fight with all his might and Kisame ended up so f*cked that he made his own shark eat him , idk that alone makes me look at the whole thing from another perspective and makes me just wanna say J-man ftw
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Jirayia easily. Sage mode = strength + speed + chakra. He also has genjutsu (which is quite strong). Kisame cannot really expect to win. It would be like Gai vs Kisame (the last fight) all over again.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    if your starting jman in sage mode that isnt fair, because right there he already has the advantage with sage chakra, ma and pa, speed, defence, and etc etc. while kisame has to drain chakra to get more stronger but if he drains sage chakra and it turns the sword into stone then jman has this one, if not then kisame might have this one, but i still doubt it..
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    How about I edit and say Jiraiya does not start off in sage mode ? !
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    if kisame used Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave,Jiraiya could use Hiding in a Toad Technique easy.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by oFuiinJutsuu View Post
    I think people really underestimate Kisame.

    Jiraiya is in sage mode with Ma and Pa. He cannott use any summonings.
    Kisame has samehada

    Both fighters are at full power and have full knowledge over eachother !

    Jiraiya does not start in sage mode.
    Hey isn't ma and Pa like a summon too? anyways I pick Jiraiya.
     
         

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    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Chillertastic View Post
    Hey isn't ma and Pa like a summon too? anyways I pick Jiraiya.
    AI'm really not sure. Dosen't matter though. They are legal in this fight
     
         

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