Page 2 of 3 « First 123 Last»
Results 21 to 40 of 57
  1. #21
    The Byakugan user of NB! Draegod's Avatar
    Status
    Draegod is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    6,238
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    if your starting jman in sage mode that isnt fair, because right there he already has the advantage with sage chakra, ma and pa, speed, defence, and etc etc. while kisame has to drain chakra to get more stronger but if he drains sage chakra and it turns the sword into stone then jman has this one, if not then kisame might have this one, but i still doubt it..
     
         

  2. #22
    Member oFuiinJutsuu's Avatar
    Status
    oFuiinJutsuu is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    837
    Location
    Canada
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    How about I edit and say Jiraiya does not start off in sage mode ? !
     
         

  3. #23
    Member nagato2's Avatar
    Status
    nagato2 is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    935
    Location
    michigan
    Out of the night that covers
    me, Black as the Pit from pole
    to pole, I thank whatever gods
    may be For my unconquerable
    soul.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    if kisame used Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave,Jiraiya could use Hiding in a Toad Technique easy.
     
         

  4. #24
    Senior Member
    Status
    NewKageism is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    4,049
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by oFuiinJutsuu View Post
    I think people really underestimate Kisame.

    Jiraiya is in sage mode with Ma and Pa. He cannott use any summonings.
    Kisame has samehada

    Both fighters are at full power and have full knowledge over eachother !

    Jiraiya does not start in sage mode.
    Hey isn't ma and Pa like a summon too? anyways I pick Jiraiya.
     
         

  5. #25
    Member oFuiinJutsuu's Avatar
    Status
    oFuiinJutsuu is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    837
    Location
    Canada
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Chillertastic View Post
    Hey isn't ma and Pa like a summon too? anyways I pick Jiraiya.
    AI'm really not sure. Dosen't matter though. They are legal in this fight
     
         

  6. #26
    Migualon J.J.'s Avatar
    Status
    Migualon J.J. is online now
    Gender
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    25,075
    Location
    Prague, Czech Republic, Czech Republic
    This user has no status.
     



    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    jiraya, there is no doubt about it

    btw nice sig and avatar oFuiinJutsuu
     
         

  7. #27
    Member sharingan warrior's Avatar
    Status
    sharingan warrior is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    412
    Location
    on top of your roof
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    they are both very strong but i thin kisame would win by a lil bit
     
         

  8. #28
    Member oFuiinJutsuu's Avatar
    Status
    oFuiinJutsuu is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    837
    Location
    Canada
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Migualon12 View Post
    jiraya, there is no doubt about it

    btw nice sig and avatar oFuiinJutsuu
    Thx bud ! :D
     
         

  9. #29
    Jounin Kakashi Fang's Avatar
    Status
    Kakashi Fang is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    4,343
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    This is not fair as Draegod said, because Jiraiya is already in sage mode that would give him the advantage against almost anyone in Naruto.

    If your gonna start Jiraiya off in Sage Mode then you have to start Kisame off already merged with Samehada and in that giant water ball thing.

    But in the case of your scenario Jiraiya wins hands down.

    If they were to meet at their neutral power level however Kisame would rape J-Mans warted ass!
     
         

  10. #30
    Senior Member PositiveEmotions's Avatar
    Status
    PositiveEmotions is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    14,789
    Location
    Riverside
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    jiraiya
     
         

  11. #31
    Academy Student LeD's Avatar
    Status
    LeD is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    11
    Location
    Phoenix, AZ
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
    Jiraiya not being able to summon is kind of ridiculous, but it won't stop him. He almost killed Kisame once in one move, the toad's eso****us. Either way, Samehada is useless since it can't absorb nature chakra, nor the ninjutsu Jiraiya casts since they incorporate it. This neutralizes Kisame worse than no summons worsen Jiraiya (In a loophole, he could ask Ma or Pa to summon, lol).

    Advantage to Jiraiya in: experience, genjutsu (frog song), taijutsu (sage mode), ninjutsu (sage mode w/ fire, air, earth, and water + combination jutsu), and stamina/endurance (sage mode) since Kisame can't get free refills from Samehada.

    This is a very bad matchup for Kisame, strong or not, because of sage mode with nature chakra and the ineffectiveness of Samehada. The argument that Kisame beat Killer Bee and thus should beat Jiraiya is bogus, transitive inference fails all the time here, which is why it shouldn't be used, albeit mentioning techniques in the fight are valid. Knowing the secrets about sage mode aren't going to help Kisame either. It's just a bad matchup.


    Could not have put it any better myself!! Great way to break it down man! J-man no doubt, I understand why people would think that Kisame could posibly pull it off since he is a renowned swordsman and also has an enormous amount of chakra himself, but let me just say this... Guy got the better of him, and I'm sure most of us would agree that J-man is much stronger than Guy. I know it's really not a fair comparison since Kisame was retreating, however Guy was able to gain an advantage on Kisame around water... Match AND point lol
     
         
    Last edited by LeD; 03-05-2011 at 01:31 AM.

  12. #32
    Jounin Kakashi Fang's Avatar
    Status
    Kakashi Fang is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    4,343
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by LeD View Post
    Could not have put it any better myself!! Great way to break it down man! J-man no doubt, I understand why people would think that Kisame could posibly pull it off since he is a renowned swordsman and also has an enormous amount of chakra himself, but let me just say this... Guy got the better of him, and I'm sure most of us would agree that J-man is much stronger than Guy. I know it's really not a fair comparison since Kisame was retreating, however Guy was able to gain an advantage on Kisame around water... Match AND point lol
    Yes but Guy was also able to catch Jiraiya off guard thinking he was the enemy on multiple occassions and kick him in the face with Dynamic Entry.
    Jutsu wise jiraiya is better than guy and so are most ninja even konoharmaru but his other skills surpass almost everyones in the village.
     
         

  13. #33
    The Observer Algalon's Avatar
    Status
    Algalon is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    9,652
    Location
    The Cosmos
    See your world through my
    eyes: A universe so vast as to
    be immeasurable -
    incomprehensible even to your
    greatest minds.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    still there is no way kisame would beat jiraiya he is strong but jiraiya is something else
     
         

  14. #34
    Half Demon illidanson's Avatar
    Status
    illidanson is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    1,851
    Location
    Right behind you...
    Rikodou solos :D
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Okay you're of overestimating Jiraya
    i admit that jiraya is better than Kisame in experience, genjutsu, stamina.
    but in taijustu i would say that Kisame has a slight advantage and in Ninjutsu Kisame is way better than Jiraya
    And even though that it still seems like Jiraya is the strongest, but i just can't imagine how Jiraya is going to kill Kisame. With what Justu?
    Goemon would be neutralized against Exploding Water Colliding Wave
    And he may not be fast enough to avoid Hair Needle Barrage but couldn't he just block with his sword
    I don't rly understand the natural energy thing but would he just could use his Great Shark Bullet Technique to absorb Super Great Ball Rasengan.
    And what whould Jiraya do against A Thousand Feeding Sharks and Shark Dance Technique?
     
         

  15. #35
    Senior Member PositiveEmotions's Avatar
    Status
    PositiveEmotions is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    14,789
    Location
    Riverside
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by illidanson View Post
    Okay you're of overestimating Jiraya
    i admit that jiraya is better than Kisame in experience, genjutsu, stamina.
    but in taijustu i would say that Kisame has a slight advantage and in Ninjutsu Kisame is way better than Jiraya
    And even though that it still seems like Jiraya is the strongest, but i just can't imagine how Jiraya is going to kill Kisame. With what Justu?
    Goemon would be neutralized against Exploding Water Colliding Wave
    And he may not be fast enough to avoid Hair Needle Barrage but couldn't he just block with his sword
    I don't rly understand the natural energy thing but would he just could use his Great Shark Bullet Technique to absorb Super Great Ball Rasengan.
    And what whould Jiraya do against A Thousand Feeding Sharks and Shark Dance Technique?
    well gai sensai had to go to 8 gates to kill kisame and jiraiya had to go sm to beat 3 pains so my guess is jiraiya would win
     
         

  16. #36
    Jounin Kakashi Fang's Avatar
    Status
    Kakashi Fang is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    4,343
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    From you saying that i dont know how you come to the conclusion of Jiraiya winning!
    Any devestating attack Jiraiya does on Kisame he could use samehada to heal even the most life threatening moves.
     
         

  17. #37
    Master Artisan leafeater's Avatar
    Status
    leafeater is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    2,161
    Location
    PhD: MA, Born: VA
    Coming home after my sage-like
    journey.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Kakashi Fang View Post
    From you saying that i dont know how you come to the conclusion of Jiraiya winning!
    Any devestating attack Jiraiya does on Kisame he could use samehada to heal even the most life threatening moves.
    All of Jiraiya's techniques in sage mode incorporate nature chakra, thus samehada can't safely absorb them. Samehada is useless against a sage, which is why this is a bad matchup for Kisame.
     
         

  18. #38
    Jounin Kakashi Fang's Avatar
    Status
    Kakashi Fang is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    4,343
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
    All of Jiraiya's techniques in sage mode incorporate nature chakra, thus samehada can't safely absorb them. Samehada is useless against a sage, which is why this is a bad matchup for Kisame.
    Just because samehada cannot absorb his chakra does not make it useless.
    Samehada has massive amounts of chakra already stored in it from previous fights such as Naruto,Killer Bee, and Asuma.

    Samehada could still rip Jiraiya to shreds and block/absorb chakra based attacks.
     
         

  19. #39
    Premium User Dr.Dave's Avatar
    Status
    Dr.Dave is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    14,134
    Location
    Anaheim, California
    T_T
     



    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Jiraiya all the way not even itachi would attack him
     
         

  20. #40
    The Observer Algalon's Avatar
    Status
    Algalon is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    9,652
    Location
    The Cosmos
    See your world through my
    eyes: A universe so vast as to
    be immeasurable -
    incomprehensible even to your
    greatest minds.
     

    Re: Jiraiya vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by fallinskaterdave View Post
    Jiraiya all the way not even itachi would attack him
    i disagree with you, yes jiraiya would win against kisame but itachi could take him
     
         

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •