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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by rinnsharingan View Post
    does anyone know when the new naruto movie is coming out in the US
    I hope soon i want to find out more about the weapon Naruto was using.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugetsu View Post
    Yamato said not yet that means at some point he will surpass his fathers yellow flash technique and FTGT
    Good point!!
    what is the difference between his fathers yellow flash technique and FTGT?
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modaro View Post
    You said it yourself there is nothing proving it or disproving it, so none of us can say. If proof comes out that it wasn't FTG then fine and if someing proves it wasn't that's also fine. I'm not taking side I'm just stating that it can go either way.
    You still don't understand it, do you. It's an ABSOLUTE FACT that Naruto in the fight with Kisame did not use FTG. What I meant with there's no proof for nor against it was that there's nothing that can say Naruto does or does not know the FTG, but it is certain that against Kisame he did not use it nor in any other occasion. So saying that Naruto knows FTG without having any indication from the manga is nothing more than a wild guess. That guess is in the same category as saying that Sasuke is in fact bald and wears a wig. After all is there any proof he is not wearing a wig? No, but there's also nothing that says otherwise. Do you now understand?

    It's a fact that Naruto has never used the FTG in the manga and using common logic the chance that he does know it is nearly zero. The only reason as why it's not zero is because it hasn't been specifically stated in the manga.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugetsu View Post
    Yamato said not yet that means at some point he will surpass his fathers yellow flash technique and FTGT
    You are interpretating that wrong. How can Yamato know that Naruto one day will be faster than Minato? What he was referring to was that even though Naruto was fast, he didn't had much control over it, while Minato had and thus Naruto is still not on the same lvl of Minato. It was an observation. It's possible that he will never reach that lvl. It was just an observation from this specific moment.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sethic View Post
    I hope soon i want to find out more about the weapon Naruto was using.

    Good point!!
    what is the difference between his fathers yellow flash technique and FTGT?
    Body flicker is natural speed/ ability(running/jumping really fast).

    Ftg usees seals and marks to summon/reverse summon a person or object to a specific place.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
    That is NOT the Flying Thunder God technique and that's a fact. Saying otherwise your knowledge about the Narutoverse is very limited.

    The FTG is based around a certain seal. By throwing a kunai with that seal on it, Minato could transport/teleport or whatever you want to call it to that kunai. It's a space/time ninjutsu, which means there's no physical contact of any kind between two destinations. As Karin said when Madara appeared he just came out of nothing. Same with Minato, he doesn't run or anything, he literally is one moment on that spot and then on another, he doesn't even need to move.
    That's why Minato had his kunai's all over the place, so he could warp himself there in a second.

    The only way Naruto could have used the FTG (put aside the matter as how could he possibly learned that technique) is if Kisame would have had the seal on him and how is that possible? It is not.

    Body flicker is a technique every genin can use, it's just high speed movement where most of your movements are covered by things like leafs or sand.

    Why he was compared to Minato? Outside the fact that they do that all the time, Minato was due to his FTG considered the fastest ninja alive and when he warped multiple times the only thing visible was his yellow hair in a flash. Hence the name Konoha's Yellow Flash. Naruto was completely yellow/gold and he moved so fast that he also looked like a yellow flash. That's it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
    You still don't understand it, do you. It's an ABSOLUTE FACT that Naruto in the fight with Kisame did not use FTG. What I meant with there's no proof for nor against it was that there's nothing that can say Naruto does or does not know the FTG, but it is certain that against Kisame he did not use it nor in any other occasion. So saying that Naruto knows FTG without having any indication from the manga is nothing more than a wild guess. That guess is in the same category as saying that Sasuke is in fact bald and wears a wig. After all is there any proof he is not wearing a wig? No, but there's also nothing that says otherwise. Do you now understand?

    It's a fact that Naruto has never used the FTG in the manga and using common logic the chance that he does know it is nearly zero. The only reason as why it's not zero is because it hasn't been specifically stated in the manga.



    You are interpretating that wrong. How can Yamato know that Naruto one day will be faster than Minato? What he was referring to was that even though Naruto was fast, he didn't had much control over it, while Minato had and thus Naruto is still not on the same lvl of Minato. It was an observation. It's possible that he will never reach that lvl. It was just an observation from this specific moment.

    My thoughts exactly. I was gonna say the same thing until I read your posts.

    Every single one of you should read these. If you still don't understand that Naruto did NOT use FTG, then it only shows you're either misunderstanding information or are just too stubborn to admit that you're wrong. Caliburn is absolutely right.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadedcrow View Post
    Body flicker is natural speed/ ability(running/jumping really fast).

    Ftg usees seals and marks to summon/reverse summon a person or object to a specific place.
    Body flicker,When did Minato learn that?Their is no yellow flash technique Minato got the name yellow flash because of the FTGT!!
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Minato_Namikaze
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sethic View Post
    As far as we know Minto didn't have body flicker,He would never need it,because he had the ftgt.So i believe that the ftgt was past down partly taught by jiraiya. I believe that Jariya learned some of the Uzumaki seals like Minato from Kushina,and may have had the scroll pass down to him.I could be wrong,but didn't the FTGT originally come from a Uzumaki reverse summing seal, and Minato evolved it to FTGT.Its that seal I think Jariya taught him,with the key scroll helping to complete the jujitsu.I think that Naruto trained on seals with Jiraiya,that's why Jiraiya told Naruto not to use that jutsu.I think the scroll help him complete it.The frog key scroll said"this's also your ticket to perfecting that jutsu".Didn't Yamato say he's not as good as yondaime yet,and look at the markings going from Naruto to fish dud!Naruto's FTGT might be a little different then Minato's
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/11
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/13
    Quote Originally Posted by Sethic View Post
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/11
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/13
    Then please explain what yamato is talking about and don't say body flicker because Minato never had it,don't say he fast because of the foxes charka because he has used the foxes charka before and never has been that fast, plus Minato has never had the foxes charka.What the hell are those markings coming from Naruto to Fish dude could be seal markings.
    1)Did Minato have body flicker -NO
    2)When Naruto had the fox charka before was he that fast-NO
    3)Would Bee know what the FTGT is -NO
    4)Would Yamato know what the FTGT is-yes

    :D
    Quote Originally Posted by Sethic View Post
    lets look at the options.
    1)lighting fast
    2)FTGT
    3)body flicker

    1)lighting fast would be the one to give Naruto the most power,almost everything Naruto has would power up hand speed,foot speed,Taijutsu,hand signs,ext.Plus Guy can teach Naruto some combat moves.
    2)FTGT I think is the most likely,Naruto father Minato creator originated from a Uzumaki reverse summoning seal.I think we seen Naruto use this seal when he was fighting pain,he reverse summon his clones for sage mode.The frog dude said Naruto found a way that works for him,meaning Naruto came up with the idea.i know the frog did the reverse summoning but Naruto was going to do it,pain wouldn't let him so i think Naruto Knows how to do the reverse summoning technique at the very least.
    3)Body flicker point a to point b line of sight easy technique.As far as we know Minato didn't have this technique but he was fast.If Minato didn't have faith in Naruto to learn a simple technique like this how the hell can he be the chosen one.
    Yamato say he's not as good as yondaime yet-This means a technique that Minato had.
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by WoWvsNaruto View Post
    look at these to, theres a similar post literally right below this one, but im still gunna do this.. cuz im a troll

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/12

    GOLDEN FLASH? and it says the body flicker technique right under the manga. that was one of his fathes teleporting techniques. correct?
    aka naruto is using the same technique as his father...

    more proof

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/13
    hes not as good as yondaime yet.. yondaime is minato...

    when and how did he get his fathers speed? just because of the kyubi.
    when did he learn the body flicker technique....
    who taught him and when.

    soo many questions. **** off with these misterys kishi.
    it's obvious. its kishi style. naruto is strong and inherited the will of his father and mother he may have the chains as well
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sethic View Post
    Well said!!!

    1)Did Minato have body flicker -NO
    2)When Naruto had the fox charka before was he that fast-NO
    3)Would Bee know what the FTGT is -NO
    4)Would Yamato know what the FTGT is-yes
    to answer the question again.
    1.) Body flicker is a low level tech... you have teachers to teach you that and we already know Minato attended class.
    2.) That is what you call improvement and progression. if you just stayed the same then you'd just lose wouldn't you? we grow and we improve.
    3.) Bee said he saw a golden flash..... meaning there was an imprint of naruto while he was moving.
    4.) he would know the FTG possibly but then again Minato would be fast as well wouldn't he? he was considered an exceptional ninja.
    Honestly, do you really believe that Minato is a one trick ninja?? to only have the FTG as a jutsu???
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    dude srry to burst your bubble it was flying thunder god, not body flicker technique
     
         

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    great.... another one.....
    ok zirx2. your facts please?
    please state how it came about that you conclude Uzumaki Naruto has gained the Flying Thunder God Technique.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    to answer the question again.
    1.) Body flicker is a low level tech... you have teachers to teach you that and we already know Minato attended class.
    2.) That is what you call improvement and progression. if you just stayed the same then you'd just lose wouldn't you? we grow and we improve.
    3.) Bee said he saw a golden flash..... meaning there was an imprint of naruto while he was moving.
    4.) he would know the FTG possibly but then again Minato would be fast as well wouldn't he? he was considered an exceptional ninja.
    Honestly, do you really believe that Minato is a one trick ninja?? to only have the FTG as a jutsu???
    1)Why would Minato leave Naruto such a low level technique like the body flicker to Naruto.
    2)lol
    3)Were the hell did you get that from that?Didn't they call Minato the yellow flash because of his FTGT?
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Minato_Namikaze
    quote-Minato was famous for his unique space–time technique, the Flying Thunder God Technique, which essentially allowed him to teleport to any location with the use of special seals. The jutsu earned him the moniker of Konoha's "Yellow Flash", due to the near untraceable speed at which Minato moved when using this technique.
    4)Agreed
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by nagato2 View Post
    maybe it was just a mistake,like in some translations they say yellow flash and in some they say shunshin no jutsu,

    exaclty what nagato2 showed... minato used body flicker... .. some trolls are just awful at trolling..
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by nagato2 View Post
    maybe it was just a mistake,like in some translations they say yellow flash and in some they say shunshin no jutsu,

    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Body_Flicker_Technique
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_..._God_Technique
    on that page you are showing bee said teleport technique and right hand smash it show here Body flicker-To an observer, it appears as if the user has teleported not that it is teleportation.
    Didn't they call Minato the yellow flash because of his FTGT?
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Minato_Namikaze
    quote-Minato was famous for his unique space–time technique, the Flying Thunder God Technique, which essentially allowed him to teleport to any location with the use of special seals. The jutsu earned him the moniker of Konoha's "Yellow Flash", due to the near untraceable speed at which Minato moved when using this technique.
    FTGT is teleportation and body flicker is not, yellow flash like Minato was called the yellow flash because of the FTGT.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sethic View Post
    1)Why would Minato leave Naruto such a low level technique like the body flicker to Naruto.
    2)lol
    3)Were the hell did you get that from that?Didn't they call Minato the yellow flash because of his FTGT?
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Minato_Namikaze
    quote-Minato was famous for his unique space–time technique, the Flying Thunder God Technique, which essentially allowed him to teleport to any location with the use of special seals. The jutsu earned him the moniker of Konoha's "Yellow Flash", due to the near untraceable speed at which Minato moved when using this technique.
    4)Agreed
    1.) that was taught at the academy.... everyone should know how to use it... Minato didn't leave that behind..
    3.) in another site's translation, it was translated as a golden flash. if you take note of the picture that one of the others posted, you would notice the the picture where naruto smashed kisame has streak marks characteristic of high speed movement. if he use the flying thunder god he would just be instantly there and there would be no streak marks whatsoever.
    answer me this then. when did naruto place the seal on kisame to be able to use the space-time ninjutsu and appear near kisame for that blow? when did he learn how to place such a seal?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    1.) that was taught at the academy.... everyone should know how to use it... Minato didn't leave that behind..
    3.) in another site's translation, it was translated as a golden flash. if you take note of the picture that one of the others posted, you would notice the the picture where naruto smashed kisame has streak marks characteristic of high speed movement. if he use the flying thunder god he would just be instantly there and there would be no streak marks whatsoever.
    answer me this then. when did naruto place the seal on kisame to be able to use the space-time ninjutsu and appear near kisame for that blow? when did he learn how to place such a seal?
    3)Didn't Minato have the same type of streak marks when he did the FTGT?
    I believe that Jariya learned some of the Uzumaki seals like Minato from Kushina,and may have had the scroll pass down to him.I could be wrong,but didn't the FTGT originally come from a Uzumaki reverse summing seal, and Minato evolved it to FTGT.Its that seal I think Jariya taught him,with the key scroll helping to complete the jujitsu.I think we seen Naruto use this seal when he was fighting pain,he reverse summon his clones for sage mode.The frog dude said Naruto found a way that works for him,meaning Naruto came up with the idea.i know the frog did the reverse summoning but Naruto was going to do it,pain wouldn't let him so i think Naruto Knows how to do the reverse summoning technique at the very least.I think that Naruto trained on seals with Jiraiya,that's why Jiraiya told Naruto not to use that jutsu.I think the scroll help him complete it.The frog key scroll said"this's also your ticket to perfecting that jutsu".Didn't Yamato say he's not as good as yondaime yet,and look at the markings going from Naruto to fish dud!Naruto's FTGT might be a little different then Minato's
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/11
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/13
    Hell were do you think the Naruto learn the seal he did on the fox and the reverse summoning technique from.
    Yamato says he's not as good as yondaime yet-This means a technique that Minato had.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoWvsNaruto View Post
    exaclty what nagato2 showed... minato used body flicker... .. some trolls are just awful at trolling..
    You really think Minato used shunshin no jutsu there?? Have you read the kakashi gaiden manga? Or seen at least the anime? When minato saved young kakashi he touched the rock shinobis foot -> seal/marking!!! Then you can even see the seal on his foot. Next he is standing behind the rock shinobi. The rock guy is even stating: you're konoha's yellow flash! So if it was shunshin(body flicker), why would he place a seal on that guys foot? That's exactly how the FTG works. He can move through SPACE and TIME to get to that seal whenever/("weherever") he wants! That surely is a translation mistake. Because for shunshin you don't need a seal. It's high speed movement only.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/240/8
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/240/9

    The FTG only works with a seal. If naruto could use it, how would/can he use the seal? With the scroll from the pain fight? Or the seal on his body? Yeah for sure. Where is the mark on kisame? Or where is the scroll? The seal on his body is for his new sealing of the fox. It has nothing to do with FTG. I think some here in this thread are underestimating the FTG! It was Minato's significant move! So why should naruto "just" be able to use it? He just happen to be suddenly able to use it? Without any training? That would make the FTG's reputation suffer.
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiraiya the womanizer View Post
    You really think Minato used shunshin no jutsu there?? Have you read the kakashi gaiden manga? Or seen at least the anime? When minato saved young kakashi he touched the rock shinobis foot -> seal/marking!!! Then you can even see the seal on his foot. Next he is standing behind the rock shinobi. The rock guy is even stating: you're konoha's yellow flash! So if it was shunshin(body flicker), why would he place a seal on that guys foot? That's exactly how the FTG works. He can move through SPACE and TIME to get to that seal whenever/("weherever") he wants! That surely is a translation mistake. Because for shunshin you don't need a seal. It's high speed movement only.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/240/8
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/240/9

    The FTG only works with a seal. If naruto could use it, how would/can he use the seal? With the scroll from the pain fight? Or the seal on his body? Yeah for sure. Where is the mark on kisame? Or where is the scroll? The seal on his body is for his new sealing of the fox. It has nothing to do with FTG. I think some here in this thread are underestimating the FTG! It was Minato's significant move! So why should naruto "just" be able to use it? He just happen to be suddenly able to use it? Without any training? That would make the FTG's reputation suffer.
    Dude i feel your pain...
    but in the words of arthur conan doyle
    "If I tell her she will not believe me. You may remember the old Persian saying, 'There is danger for him who taketh the tiger cub, and danger also for whoso snatches a delusion from a woman.' There is as much sense in Hafiz as in Horace, and as much knowledge of the world."

    Sherlock Holmes, in "A Case of Identity"

    lets just let them be with what they believe. in the end, time will reveal all secrets anyways...
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
    You still don't understand it, do you. It's an ABSOLUTE FACT that Naruto in the fight with Kisame did not use FTG. What I meant with there's no proof for nor against it was that there's nothing that can say Naruto does or does not know the FTG, but it is certain that against Kisame he did not use it nor in any other occasion. So saying that Naruto knows FTG without having any indication from the manga is nothing more than a wild guess. That guess is in the same category as saying that Sasuke is in fact bald and wears a wig. After all is there any proof he is not wearing a wig? No, but there's also nothing that says otherwise. Do you now understand?
    FAilure:

    Kishuna told naruto she thouagh minato his seals, it only natural she would want to give naruto them to.

    So shut up about no proof, it can still go either way
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiraiya the womanizer View Post
    Well, I think a lot of people still don't understand the difference between shunshin(teleport) and Jikūkan(space time) jutsus. On this page(and the following) shino explains the difference: http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/395/9

    It's like DarkPhoenix said. Shunshin is "only" high speed movement. Sauske, especially shisui, Hanzou, Raikage, Naruto and many others are using shunshin no jutsu. But that's not Space Time Ninjutsu. Yondaime's own unique Jutsu the FTG was a Space Time Jutsu (logic: travel through space and time!). So the only shinobi using Space Time Ninjutsu so far we know are: Uchiha Madara, Tobirama Senju and Minato Namikaze.

    Body Flicker = shunshin no jutsu
    Space Time Ninjutsu = Jikūkan Ninjutsu
    Interesting.. Tobirama Senju could use Space Time Jutsu too..i didnt know that.. which jutsu was he able to use?? :D
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemanth View Post
    Interesting.. Tobirama Senju could use Space Time Jutsu too..i didnt know that.. which jutsu was he able to use?? :D
    Yes he used Space Time Jutsu(s) although it is not known what kind of. Yondaime stated: "..........wields Space Time techniques that exceed both the second's and my own". May be we will find it out in some backflash or chapter.
    We will see.
     
         

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