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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    to answer the question again.
    1.) Body flicker is a low level tech... you have teachers to teach you that and we already know Minato attended class.
    2.) That is what you call improvement and progression. if you just stayed the same then you'd just lose wouldn't you? we grow and we improve.
    3.) Bee said he saw a golden flash..... meaning there was an imprint of naruto while he was moving.
    4.) he would know the FTG possibly but then again Minato would be fast as well wouldn't he? he was considered an exceptional ninja.
    Honestly, do you really believe that Minato is a one trick ninja?? to only have the FTG as a jutsu???
    1)Why would Minato leave Naruto such a low level technique like the body flicker to Naruto.
    2)lol
    3)Were the hell did you get that from that?Didn't they call Minato the yellow flash because of his FTGT?
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Minato_Namikaze
    quote-Minato was famous for his unique space–time technique, the Flying Thunder God Technique, which essentially allowed him to teleport to any location with the use of special seals. The jutsu earned him the moniker of Konoha's "Yellow Flash", due to the near untraceable speed at which Minato moved when using this technique.
    4)Agreed
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by nagato2 View Post
    maybe it was just a mistake,like in some translations they say yellow flash and in some they say shunshin no jutsu,

    exaclty what nagato2 showed... minato used body flicker... .. some trolls are just awful at trolling..
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by nagato2 View Post
    maybe it was just a mistake,like in some translations they say yellow flash and in some they say shunshin no jutsu,

    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Body_Flicker_Technique
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_..._God_Technique
    on that page you are showing bee said teleport technique and right hand smash it show here Body flicker-To an observer, it appears as if the user has teleported not that it is teleportation.
    Didn't they call Minato the yellow flash because of his FTGT?
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Minato_Namikaze
    quote-Minato was famous for his unique space–time technique, the Flying Thunder God Technique, which essentially allowed him to teleport to any location with the use of special seals. The jutsu earned him the moniker of Konoha's "Yellow Flash", due to the near untraceable speed at which Minato moved when using this technique.
    FTGT is teleportation and body flicker is not, yellow flash like Minato was called the yellow flash because of the FTGT.
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sethic View Post
    1)Why would Minato leave Naruto such a low level technique like the body flicker to Naruto.
    2)lol
    3)Were the hell did you get that from that?Didn't they call Minato the yellow flash because of his FTGT?
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Minato_Namikaze
    quote-Minato was famous for his unique space–time technique, the Flying Thunder God Technique, which essentially allowed him to teleport to any location with the use of special seals. The jutsu earned him the moniker of Konoha's "Yellow Flash", due to the near untraceable speed at which Minato moved when using this technique.
    4)Agreed
    1.) that was taught at the academy.... everyone should know how to use it... Minato didn't leave that behind..
    3.) in another site's translation, it was translated as a golden flash. if you take note of the picture that one of the others posted, you would notice the the picture where naruto smashed kisame has streak marks characteristic of high speed movement. if he use the flying thunder god he would just be instantly there and there would be no streak marks whatsoever.
    answer me this then. when did naruto place the seal on kisame to be able to use the space-time ninjutsu and appear near kisame for that blow? when did he learn how to place such a seal?
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    1.) that was taught at the academy.... everyone should know how to use it... Minato didn't leave that behind..
    3.) in another site's translation, it was translated as a golden flash. if you take note of the picture that one of the others posted, you would notice the the picture where naruto smashed kisame has streak marks characteristic of high speed movement. if he use the flying thunder god he would just be instantly there and there would be no streak marks whatsoever.
    answer me this then. when did naruto place the seal on kisame to be able to use the space-time ninjutsu and appear near kisame for that blow? when did he learn how to place such a seal?
    3)Didn't Minato have the same type of streak marks when he did the FTGT?
    I believe that Jariya learned some of the Uzumaki seals like Minato from Kushina,and may have had the scroll pass down to him.I could be wrong,but didn't the FTGT originally come from a Uzumaki reverse summing seal, and Minato evolved it to FTGT.Its that seal I think Jariya taught him,with the key scroll helping to complete the jujitsu.I think we seen Naruto use this seal when he was fighting pain,he reverse summon his clones for sage mode.The frog dude said Naruto found a way that works for him,meaning Naruto came up with the idea.i know the frog did the reverse summoning but Naruto was going to do it,pain wouldn't let him so i think Naruto Knows how to do the reverse summoning technique at the very least.I think that Naruto trained on seals with Jiraiya,that's why Jiraiya told Naruto not to use that jutsu.I think the scroll help him complete it.The frog key scroll said"this's also your ticket to perfecting that jutsu".Didn't Yamato say he's not as good as yondaime yet,and look at the markings going from Naruto to fish dud!Naruto's FTGT might be a little different then Minato's
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/11
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/13
    Hell were do you think the Naruto learn the seal he did on the fox and the reverse summoning technique from.
    Yamato says he's not as good as yondaime yet-This means a technique that Minato had.
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by WoWvsNaruto View Post
    exaclty what nagato2 showed... minato used body flicker... .. some trolls are just awful at trolling..
    You really think Minato used shunshin no jutsu there?? Have you read the kakashi gaiden manga? Or seen at least the anime? When minato saved young kakashi he touched the rock shinobis foot -> seal/marking!!! Then you can even see the seal on his foot. Next he is standing behind the rock shinobi. The rock guy is even stating: you're konoha's yellow flash! So if it was shunshin(body flicker), why would he place a seal on that guys foot? That's exactly how the FTG works. He can move through SPACE and TIME to get to that seal whenever/("weherever") he wants! That surely is a translation mistake. Because for shunshin you don't need a seal. It's high speed movement only.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/240/8
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/240/9

    The FTG only works with a seal. If naruto could use it, how would/can he use the seal? With the scroll from the pain fight? Or the seal on his body? Yeah for sure. Where is the mark on kisame? Or where is the scroll? The seal on his body is for his new sealing of the fox. It has nothing to do with FTG. I think some here in this thread are underestimating the FTG! It was Minato's significant move! So why should naruto "just" be able to use it? He just happen to be suddenly able to use it? Without any training? That would make the FTG's reputation suffer.
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiraiya the womanizer View Post
    You really think Minato used shunshin no jutsu there?? Have you read the kakashi gaiden manga? Or seen at least the anime? When minato saved young kakashi he touched the rock shinobis foot -> seal/marking!!! Then you can even see the seal on his foot. Next he is standing behind the rock shinobi. The rock guy is even stating: you're konoha's yellow flash! So if it was shunshin(body flicker), why would he place a seal on that guys foot? That's exactly how the FTG works. He can move through SPACE and TIME to get to that seal whenever/("weherever") he wants! That surely is a translation mistake. Because for shunshin you don't need a seal. It's high speed movement only.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/240/8
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/240/9

    The FTG only works with a seal. If naruto could use it, how would/can he use the seal? With the scroll from the pain fight? Or the seal on his body? Yeah for sure. Where is the mark on kisame? Or where is the scroll? The seal on his body is for his new sealing of the fox. It has nothing to do with FTG. I think some here in this thread are underestimating the FTG! It was Minato's significant move! So why should naruto "just" be able to use it? He just happen to be suddenly able to use it? Without any training? That would make the FTG's reputation suffer.
    Dude i feel your pain...
    but in the words of arthur conan doyle
    "If I tell her she will not believe me. You may remember the old Persian saying, 'There is danger for him who taketh the tiger cub, and danger also for whoso snatches a delusion from a woman.' There is as much sense in Hafiz as in Horace, and as much knowledge of the world."

    Sherlock Holmes, in "A Case of Identity"

    lets just let them be with what they believe. in the end, time will reveal all secrets anyways...
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
    You still don't understand it, do you. It's an ABSOLUTE FACT that Naruto in the fight with Kisame did not use FTG. What I meant with there's no proof for nor against it was that there's nothing that can say Naruto does or does not know the FTG, but it is certain that against Kisame he did not use it nor in any other occasion. So saying that Naruto knows FTG without having any indication from the manga is nothing more than a wild guess. That guess is in the same category as saying that Sasuke is in fact bald and wears a wig. After all is there any proof he is not wearing a wig? No, but there's also nothing that says otherwise. Do you now understand?
    FAilure:

    Kishuna told naruto she thouagh minato his seals, it only natural she would want to give naruto them to.

    So shut up about no proof, it can still go either way
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiraiya the womanizer View Post
    Well, I think a lot of people still don't understand the difference between shunshin(teleport) and Jikūkan(space time) jutsus. On this page(and the following) shino explains the difference: http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/395/9

    It's like DarkPhoenix said. Shunshin is "only" high speed movement. Sauske, especially shisui, Hanzou, Raikage, Naruto and many others are using shunshin no jutsu. But that's not Space Time Ninjutsu. Yondaime's own unique Jutsu the FTG was a Space Time Jutsu (logic: travel through space and time!). So the only shinobi using Space Time Ninjutsu so far we know are: Uchiha Madara, Tobirama Senju and Minato Namikaze.

    Body Flicker = shunshin no jutsu
    Space Time Ninjutsu = Jikūkan Ninjutsu
    Interesting.. Tobirama Senju could use Space Time Jutsu too..i didnt know that.. which jutsu was he able to use?? :D
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hemanth View Post
    Interesting.. Tobirama Senju could use Space Time Jutsu too..i didnt know that.. which jutsu was he able to use?? :D
    Yes he used Space Time Jutsu(s) although it is not known what kind of. Yondaime stated: "..........wields Space Time techniques that exceed both the second's and my own". May be we will find it out in some backflash or chapter.
    We will see.
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiraiya the womanizer View Post
    Yes he used Space Time Jutsu(s) although it is not known what kind of. Yondaime stated: "..........wields Space Time techniques that exceed both the second's and my own". May be we will find it out in some backflash or chapter.
    We will see.
    Thanks for the info.. and oh yeah who is Yondaime?? :confused:
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hemanth View Post
    Thanks for the info.. and oh yeah who is Yondaime?? :confused:
    Really?? You don't know?? Yondaime is the fourth Hokage.
    Yondaime means fourth (Hokage)
    It goes:
    first: Shodai (Hokage)
    second: Nidaime (Hokage)
    third: Sandaime (Hokage)
    fourth: Yondaime (Hokage)
    fifth: Godaime (Hokage)

    Are you watching the anime in english?? I would suggest you to watch it in japanese with english subtitles. Then you could hear Yondaime Like always the original is way better. It makes the viewing of the anime totally differnt. I just once listened to naruto's voice on english. I really had to laugh.
    What's he saying: "Believe it!!!":flaw:
    And the pronouncing of the names, .

    But you have to decide for yourself. Just a well-intentioned advise
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiraiya the womanizer View Post
    Really?? You don't know?? Yondaime is the fourth Hokage.
    Yondaime means fourth (Hokage)
    It goes:
    first: Shodai (Hokage)
    second: Nidaime (Hokage)
    third: Sandaime (Hokage)
    fourth: Yondaime (Hokage)
    fifth: Godaime (Hokage)

    Are you watching the anime in english?? I would suggest you to watch it in japanese with english subtitles. Then you could hear Yondaime Like always the original is way better. It makes the viewing of the anime totally differnt. I just once listened to naruto's voice on english. I really had to laugh.
    What's he saying: "Believe it!!!":flaw:
    And the pronouncing of the names, .

    But you have to decide for yourself. Just a well-intentioned advise
    Well actually i do watch it in japanese with english subtitles which i also feel is much better.. well i use all other japanese words such as senjutsu, edo tensei etc.. lol.. wonder why i didnt catch this phrase.. might have heard but forgotten it.. anyways thanks for pointing out :D
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sethic View Post
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/11
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/13
    Then please explain what yamato is talking about and don't say body flicker because Minato never had it,don't say he fast because of the foxes charka because he has used the foxes charka before and never has been that fast, plus Minato has never had the foxes charka.What the hell are those markings coming from Naruto to Fish dude could be seal markings.
    1)Did Minato have body flicker -NO
    2)When Naruto had the fox charka before was he that fast-NO
    3)Would Bee know what the FTGT is -NO
    4)Would Yamato know what the FTGT is-yes
    Can you just repeat yourself and post the same questions? Some members already gave you an answer. It looks like you don't have any clue how the FTG works. You think like that: Minato has the FTG -> Naruto, son of Minato -> of course Naruto can do it too, without knowing anything about the seal or training!!

    Naruto may not even have used shunshin. It was most likely raw speed. But since there are so many similarities between naruto and his father, Yamato said that!!! It looked like it.

    How did it work with kisame? Tell me? How did naruto mark kisame? Where was a mark/seal? And then after "hurting" his ankle, why didn't he use the FTG again to stand right before kisame???? You say he used FTG on kisame, so why didn't he use the mark/seal again to get to kisame??

    And by the way when naruto used the kyuubi chakra he wasn't fast? So was he slow? Even when using the cloak of the demon fox? Sure... Anyway it is a different case now. Don't compare the new kyuubi chakra mode with the old demon fox cloak mode. There's a big difference.
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiraiya the womanizer View Post
    Can you just repeat yourself and post the same questions? Some members already gave you an answer. It looks like you don't have any clue how the FTG works. You think like that: Minato has the FTG -> Naruto, son of Minato -> of course Naruto can do it too, without knowing anything about the seal or training!!

    Naruto may not even have used shunshin. It was most likely raw speed. But since there are so many similarities between naruto and his father, Yamato said that!!! It looked like it.

    How did it work with kisame? Tell me? How did naruto mark kisame? Where was a mark/seal? And then after "hurting" his ankle, why didn't he use the FTG again to stand right before kisame???? You say he used FTG on kisame, so why didn't he use the mark/seal again to get to kisame??

    And by the way when naruto used the kyuubi chakra he wasn't fast? So was he slow? Even when using the cloak of the demon fox? Sure... Anyway it is a different case now. Don't compare the new kyuubi chakra mode with the old demon fox cloak mode. There's a big difference.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/11
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/13
    What the hell are those markings coming from Naruto to Fish dude,could be seal markings.The frog key scroll said"this's also your ticket to perfecting that jutsu,maybe their is something in the key scroll that projects seals from Naruto.Yamato says he's not as good as yondaime yet-This means a technique that Minato had not raw speed use your brain. FTGT originally come from a Uzumaki reverse summing seal, and Minato evolved it to FTGT.Its that seal I think Jariya taught Naruto,with the key scroll helping to complete the jujitsu.I think that Naruto trained on seals with Jiraiya,that's why Jiraiya told Naruto not to use that jutsu.I think the scroll help him complete it.So that's how he got some training in!
    Where do you think Naruto learned that seal he did on the fox?
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    OMG some people just love to troll around. The question has mostly been answered. Also before you post READ THE WHOLE DAMN THREAD or at least do not post the same stupid things that have already been discussed and explained. Otherwise don't bother to post at all.
    And get back on topic... you went from naruto to minato and to a whole other place of the story.
    Naruto using FTG -NO anyone who says that Nartuo has used FTG is just dumb, and stubborn.
    Naruto knowing FTG - no one can prove that he does or that he doesn't, since it doesn't show it in the manga then we take it as a NO.
    Minato knowing body flicker - probably yes, it is just a D rank jutsu that you learn at the academy.
    Minato was known as the yellow flash because of that part when he took out an entire platoon of ninja by himself, imagine how it looked like: Minato (with yellow pointy hair) appearing to bee in like 50+ places ... like a yellow thing that appears from one place to another in an instant... => YELLOW FLASH.
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Naruto has his father's jutsu. Kishi is not stupid enough to device a brilliant jutsu without putting it in good use. That's the point.
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sethic View Post
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/11
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/505/13
    What the hell are those markings coming from Naruto to Fish dude,could be seal markings.The frog key scroll said"this's also your ticket to perfecting that jutsu,maybe their is something in the key scroll that projects seals from Naruto.Yamato says he's not as good as yondaime yet-This means a technique that Minato had not raw speed use your brain. FTGT originally come from a Uzumaki reverse summing seal, and Minato evolved it to FTGT.Its that seal I think Jariya taught Naruto,with the key scroll helping to complete the jujitsu.I think that Naruto trained on seals with Jiraiya,that's why Jiraiya told Naruto not to use that jutsu.I think the scroll help him complete it.So that's how he got some training in!
    Where do you think Naruto learned that seal he did on the fox?

    those marks are kanji which represent the sound of him scattering across the wall like a cockroach. its the same is writing "ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ". simple sound effects. I personally think hat naruto's attack was nothing but pure speed, which is different from the flying thunder god technique. Although Minato was crazy fast without that technique, which is why he had that nick-name. So Yamato may be saying that naruto is as fast as his father naturally but its not quite the same as flying thunder god. Jiraiya has been shown to know some seals so hopefully he taught some to naruto, but since we havent seen any so far, I think its safe to say that they spent most of thier time trying to control the fox's power and to fight with his head.
     
         

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    Re: no one has pointed this out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minato Sensei View Post
    OMG some people just love to troll around. The question has mostly been answered. Also before you post READ THE WHOLE DAMN THREAD or at least do not post the same stupid things that have already been discussed and explained. Otherwise don't bother to post at all.
    And get back on topic... you went from naruto to minato and to a whole other place of the story.
    Naruto using FTG -NO anyone who says that Nartuo has used FTG is just dumb, and stubborn.
    Naruto knowing FTG - no one can prove that he does or that he doesn't, since it doesn't show it in the manga then we take it as a NO.
    Minato knowing body flicker - probably yes, it is just a D rank jutsu that you learn at the academy.
    Minato was known as the yellow flash because of that part when he took out an entire platoon of ninja by himself, imagine how it looked like: Minato (with yellow pointy hair) appearing to bee in like 50+ places ... like a yellow thing that appears from one place to another in an instant... => YELLOW FLASH.
    You want to talk about stupid,stupid is discounting someones theory without anything to discount it,or even dumber nothing to support their own theory!! at least i have many things to support mine, what is this super speed you are all talking about,i looked everywhere in the Naruto world.Do you have a name,web site,anything,stop making stuff up!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by krkaushik22 View Post
    Naruto has his father's jutsu. Kishi is not stupid enough to device a brilliant jutsu without putting it in good use. That's the point.
    Thank you:D
    Quote Originally Posted by Scary Yamato View Post
    those marks are kanji which represent the sound of him scattering across the wall like a cockroach. its the same is writing "ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ". simple sound effects. I personally think hat naruto's attack was nothing but pure speed, which is different from the flying thunder god technique. Although Minato was crazy fast without that technique, which is why he had that nick-name. So Yamato may be saying that naruto is as fast as his father naturally but its not quite the same as flying thunder god. Jiraiya has been shown to know some seals so hopefully he taught some to naruto, but since we havent seen any so far, I think its safe to say that they spent most of thier time trying to control the fox's power and to fight with his head.
    I could buy most of that,but that was before he "bee's words" telported to the fish dude.
    I would rather see Naurto to get super speed,if it exists it would power up everything Naruto does it would be more powerful then the FTGT and a hell of a lot better then the body flicker.Then Naruto can learn some combat moves and be more like Guy.
     
         

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