If it were'nt for Kabuto...

[Cyborg]

Let's face it. If Kabuto had'nt used like a 100 or so IWR summons, there really would'nt be much of a war right now. Akatsuki has madara, sasuke and lots and lots of zetsus. That's still just 3 characters, and so far the zetsus have'nt done anything special so .....looks like oro's legacy is a royal pain for everyone,lol.

[Darijan]

thats right

[sra onakx]

yup thats absolutely true..

[Allan Hoshigaki]

no i dont think so madara would havehad anther plan to carry out. cuz when kabuto came to him he had to recalculate for his battle power. not saying that kabuto isnt helping the war but madara would have found some other way he always does. cuz before he might kabuto he told the kages that he was gonna use the seven bijuu in the war. but since kabuto came i guess he doesnt have to take that risk right away

[Migualon J.J.]

i think if kabuto wouldn´t be there than tobi would join the battle and kick everyone´s butt

[Cyborg]

thats right

yup thats absolutely true..

Thanks!

no i dont think so madara would havehad anther plan to carry out. cuz when kabuto came to him he had to recalculate for his battle power. not saying that kabuto isnt helping the war but madara would have found some other way he always does. cuz before he might kabuto he told the kages that he was gonna use the seven bijuu in the war. but since kabuto came i guess he doesnt have to take that risk right away

Well if he had another plan they did'nt show it....he did'nt have many pawns left now, did he....?

i think if kabuto wouldn´t be there than tobi would join the battle and kick everyone´s butt

I dunno, 2 times we see him fight, once get owned by the 4th and the other time he almost dies to konan,lol

[Download]

definetly agree dude

[Realtwisted]

True, kabuto has doing his part. Thanks to kabuto, the alliences are not just focusing on zetzu, sasuke or madara.

[Allan Hoshigaki]

ya but madara doesnt trust kabuto cuz we all know he is just a plain snake that is fully out for himself. thats why madara is using him

[Phlex]

Agrreed

[Allan Hoshigaki]

and your talking about when konan and the 4th hokage almost beat him but almost doesnt cut ..... wheres konan now wheres the 4th hokage now mm dead and where is madara still alive and fighting in a war. dont hate on madara he is the strongest ninja in history

[Cyborg]

and your talking about when konan and the 4th hokage almost beat him but almost doesnt cut ..... wheres konan now wheres the 4th hokage now mm dead and where is madara still alive and fighting in a war. dont hate on madara he is the strongest ninja in history

z, really? So since konohamaru's alive he's stronger than jiraiya and the 3rd hokage, both of whom are dead? Being alive is not=being strong. That's your opinion, btw i don't suppose u ever heard of the SO6P.....oh, wait that's right madara's LIFE goal is to become as strong as he was....that alone disqualifies him(madara) from being the strongest shinobi in history. Sweeping statements like that are far fetched at best.

[Allan Hoshigaki]

z, really? So since konohamaru's alive he's stronger than jiraiya and the 3rd hokage, both of whom are dead? Being alive is not=being strong. That's your opinion, btw i don't suppose u ever heard of the SO6P.....oh, wait that's right madara's LIFE goal is to become as strong as he was....that alone disqualifies him(madara) from being the strongest shinobi in history. Sweeping statements like that are far fetched at best.

im just saying all the ninja who have stepped to madara in battle are all dead now true or not true and hes still alive. and yes being alive is being strong. cuz once you die your legacy ends. not ifyour the orginnal sage he is the creator hes in another category

[Cyborg]

im just saying all the ninja who have stepped to madara in battle are all dead now true or not true

Not true....naruto stepped to battle with him(twice) but he's alive. Also so did his other age mates when they were looking for sasuke, they're all alive so far.

[Cyborg]

im just saying all the ninja who have stepped to madara in battle are all dead now true or not true and hes still alive. and yes being alive is being strong. cuz once you die your legacy ends. not ifyour the orginnal sage he is the creator hes in another category

First off, many still speculate he is'nt madara, so what do you have to say about that, ?

[Heister]

I think the zetsu's were just to stall until they got the kyubi/sasuke got his EMS.

[Migualon J.J.]

First off, many still speculate he is'nt madara, so what do you have to say about that, ?

i am one of those who speculate that he isn´t madara, but no one can say that it wasn´t tobi who fought konan and 4th hokage

[UchihaSasuke7]

Why did he run away when fighting the first? The fourth sacrificed himself for the sake of the village! If you can seal a biju than what strengt do you have? Also against konon he did a good job that's true though. He is a strong ninja a admit but not the strongest cus he lives the longest, i think

[Allan Hoshigaki]

First off, many still speculate he is'nt madara, so what do you have to say about that, ?

in those battles madara wasnt serious he was acting like a loser but once he found out itachi was dead remember tthats when he started to get serious with things and put his plans in motion cuz he made a promise to itachi that he wouldnt touch the leaf. then kakashi found out he had a sharingan.

and as far as if i think he is madara i do think he is madara but i also have a feeling that he is using a white zetsu body for the most part. hes shown his face to kisame twice and itachi and danzo knows about him. cuz when he first encountered him madara was like long time nosee danzo since the execution of thee uchiha cuz madara was there. and if itachi said madara is alive then i believe him. plus kisame was the closet person to him

[blazekev90]

i couldnt agree more, all hail Oro lol!!

[Cyborg]

i am one of those who speculate that he isn´t madara, but no one can say that it wasn´t tobi who fought konan and 4th hokage

That's not the point, this allan guy is saying because madara has been able to live so long he's so tough he won't need kabuto.

Why did he run away when fighting the first? The fourth sacrificed himself for the sake of the village! If you can seal a biju than what strengt do you have? Also against konon he did a good job that's true though. He is a strong ninja a admit but not the strongest cus he lives the longest, i think

Exactly.

in those battles madara wasnt serious he was acting like a loser but once he found out itachi was dead remember tthats when he started to get serious with things and put his plans in motion cuz he made a promise to itachi that he wouldnt touch the leaf. then kakashi found out he had a sharingan.

Sorry, but poor reasoning. Madara/tobi found out itachi was dead BEFORE he fought konan and also kakashi saw his sharingan before that as well. Pretty lame if that's when he started to get serious because he lost his arm and almost his life after both those things.

[GriffinofKonoha]

the funny thing is that the zetsu's right now are the super-up versions. imagine how shitty the war would have been if Madara had an army of 100,000 wet paper bags as soldiers, that's how the zetsu army would have been with kabuto.

[DarkLuxAng]

yes, definitely

[Anub]

Madara still has the tailed beasts.