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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    I am sure you will have some people saying the Byakugan has nothing to do with the Sharingan. But like i have mentioned, the message hidden at the Uchiha temple was only meant for them. Then ask them again, how can the Hyuga read it? HAHA in your face doubters!! LOl jk dont attack me.
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    dude.. its really an awesome thoery.. it kinda does make a lot of sense.. in the previous thread i had created " Itachi's Gift To Naruto was a way to Unlock the Rinnegan?? Perhaps?" i was discussing about madara saying that he gave the rinnegan to nagato.. and itachi doing the same thing to naruto.. and you theory.. kinda makes sense.. maybe the sharingan is locked and when it comes in contact with the younger brother senju and the right condition is created it could unlock the rinnegan(both naruto and nagato are uzumaki being relatives of the senju).. dude put forward your theory in my thread.. :D
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    thanks for the good feedback. i am happy my theory doesn't totally suck ass :D
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by gleaming in drabness View Post
    So you guys, my first theory.
    I kind of have the feeling that the Sharingan could be a locked Rinnegan. Just thinking about this a for a few months and i would like to hear your opinion about it:

    i refer to the sons of the sage. One of them had the body and was the good one and the other had the eyes of the sage and was kind of the bad one.
    Here is my theory how the sharingan was created.!
    First of welcome to the base. Whats good and bad are relative to your point of view. Was the elder son being kind of a prick yeah I'd say so. At this point in their story the elder son seems whiney and dumb. Still a decent story though.

    Quote Originally Posted by gleaming in drabness View Post

    I think the Sage kind of put a seal in his son with the eyes, that when he would do something cruel it would be sealed. Like when he attacked his brother because of jealousy, maybe that seal was activated and the sharingan was created. That the "inner circle" of the rinnegan got the tomoes on it = sharingan.!
    I suppose it could have happened that way but again if the eldest son thought he was in the right to attack his younger brother to claim what was given to the younger I doubt the eldest brother would see what he was doing as cruel. But rather correcting a injustice. Sounds douchy but yeah.

    And if you look at the last episode of the anime the sages eyes were not blue like the normal rinningan we know. I'm not sure about the sons eyes but they looked redish/brown in the picture as well.

    And the part about the inner circle of the rinningan + tomoes = Sharingan, is kind of meh to me. What about the MS, and how it seals it self away, after unlocking the sharingan and then releasing each tomoe? Lastly cant you just say that the Bykaugan+ more rings = the look of the Rinningan like negato has, they might look similar but I dont think they are the same.

    One might be the evolved or precursor to the others though, I think thats completly plausable.


    Quote Originally Posted by gleaming in drabness View Post
    So this could be the point why the uchiha, the descendants of the bad bro have a sharingan and not a rinnegan (although the descendant had some some sort of spiral in his eyes). Maybe another thing that would support my theory is that the tomoes seem to be kind of related to seals. !
    The Uchihas tomoe are unlocked and increase the occular abilites of the sharingan. Ex when sauske unlocked his third tomoe, his preception increased of Narutos movements. And if you look at Obitos Sharingan he had two tomoe and could see the abnormal chakra flow in Rin, and could tell she was under a genjuitsu.


    Quote Originally Posted by gleaming in drabness View Post

    For example as it was on sasukes left neck/shoulder. There were 3 tomoes and this writing around it.

    It could be total bullshit but just wondering what are your thoughts !
    Those marks on Sauskes neck were the heaven, or earth curse mark used by Orochimaru, to implant his chakra, and prepare a ninja for the soul transmigration ritual.

    Nice thread though..

    Quote Originally Posted by GlazierZ View Post
    I am sure you will have some people saying the Byakugan has nothing to do with the Sharingan. But like i have mentioned, the message hidden at the Uchiha temple was only meant for them. Then ask them again, how can the Hyuga read it? HAHA in your face doubters!! LOl jk dont attack me.
    I thought only the Uchiha with the Sharingan and MS, and the Rinningan could read the secrets of the sage of the six paths respectively with their eyes and occular powers. I dont rember Madara saying anything about the Hyuga being able to read it. I could be wrong though.
     
         
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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    wow shadedcrow. thanks for the detailed explanation.
    you are right. i also wondered why the eyes of the elder son had this strange color.
    but i think i remember the byakugan could read a bit of the script as well. and if already 2 people think so it can't be too wrong
     
         
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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by GlazierZ View Post
    What if you combined the Sharingan with the Byakugan, could you make a Rinnegan?

    Ever wonder why the Byakugan could read some of the hidden message meant for the Uchiha?

    Or maybe the Rinnegan is the Senju developed version of their eye?

    Maybe not, whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by gleaming in drabness View Post
    wow shadedcrow. thanks for the detailed explanation.
    you are right. i also wondered why the eyes of the elder son had this strange color.
    but i think i remember the byakugan could read a bit of the script as well. and if already 2 people think so it can't be too wrong
    Your welcome, I'm willing to change my thought, if you can refute, what Madara says on page eleven.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/467/11
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    well, okay. then we must have been wrong. but it is strange that the 2 of us thought they can remember it.. i have been searching the internet but couldn't find anything about reading the shrine except your manga quote. congrats!
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by gleaming in drabness View Post
    well, okay. then we must have been wrong. but it is strange that the 2 of us thought they can remember it.. i have been searching the internet but couldn't find anything about reading the shrine except your manga quote. congrats!
    No problem, dig your avatar btw.
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Sharingan is stronger than Rinnegan.
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    good theory but i don't think it's possible.
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    I have something crazy (and prob stupid too) but maybe the seal only works on uchiha, which have like a curse of vengeance but when transplanted into uzumaki (related to senju) it disactives the seal or what ever....im sorry if this is totally stupid
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninetails Fox View Post
    I have something crazy (and prob stupid too) but maybe the seal only works on uchiha, which have like a curse of vengeance but when transplanted into uzumaki (related to senju) it disactives the seal or what ever....im sorry if this is totally stupid
    Some times crazy is in parrel position with stupid. Not sure what your really saying but I gave you a +1 rep anyhow, and theres no need to be sorry for saying what you think. You can always change your mind and thoughts anyhow right?
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Maybe
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by KyuubiYondaime View Post
    Sharingan is stronger than Rinnegan.
    and how did u come up with that the sharingan and bycugan or howver u spell it are waterd down rinnegan
    if u referrin 2 how pain was usin it i doubt he was usin it 2 even half of its potential i could be mistakin but i saw rinnegan wit tomoes like the sharingan idk if if its real or not but i it is id guess thats how the sharingan can com from rinnegane and the 1 i saw had 9 tomoes
     
         
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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by shadedcrow View Post
    Your welcome, I'm willing to change my thought, if you can refute, what Madara says on page eleven.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/467/11
    Quote Originally Posted by gleaming in drabness View Post
    well, okay. then we must have been wrong. but it is strange that the 2 of us thought they can remember it.. i have been searching the internet but couldn't find anything about reading the shrine except your manga quote. congrats!
    Well i guess your right. I looked everywhere i could possibly think of and still can't seem to find any poof. Oh well, would be pretty cool if it could.
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    i like your theory and kakashi doesnt know everything he still thinks sage of six paths are faake
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by chickmagnet View Post
    and how did u come up with that the sharingan and bycugan or howver u spell it are waterd down rinnegan
    if u referrin 2 how pain was usin it i doubt he was usin it 2 even half of its potential i could be mistakin but i saw rinnegan wit tomoes like the sharingan idk if if its real or not but i it is id guess thats how the sharingan can com from rinnegane and the 1 i saw had 9 tomoes
    The first part was just a theory. But look at the pannel of the Sage of The Six Paths and behind him is a Shirinakugan. lol The 10 tailed beast also kind of seems to have the similar eye. But its a bit fuzzy and would rather have it in anime form for better varification.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/510/11

    Quote Originally Posted by GlazierZ View Post
    Well i guess your right. I looked everywhere i could possibly think of and still can't seem to find any poof. Oh well, would be pretty cool if it could.
    I dont really care about being right, I'd just rather give you some information that is as correct as I can give you so you have it and understand things better too. Thats prettymuch my goal in terms of talking to people here that might be misunderstanding something. Gonna try and plus one rep yah,

    How do you have less posts than me and more kumi?
     
         
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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Dude your theory kicks some fricken ass!

    Kishi will eventually tell us one day, and it will probably be something crazy like this.
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by gleaming in drabness View Post
    So you guys, my first theory.
    I kind of have the feeling that the Sharingan could be a locked Rinnegan. Just thinking about this a for a few months and i would like to hear your opinion about it:

    i refer to the sons of the sage. One of them had the body and was the good one and the other had the eyes of the sage and was kind of the bad one.
    Here is my theory how the sharingan was created. I think the Sage kind of put a seal in his son with the eyes, that when he would do something cruel it would be sealed. Like when he attacked his brother because of jealousy, maybe that seal was activated and the sharingan was created. That the "inner circle" of the rinnegan got the tomoes on it = sharingan. So this could be the point why the uchiha, the descendants of the bad bro have a sharingan and not a rinnegan (although the descendant had some some sort of spiral in his eyes). Maybe another thing that would support my theory is that the tomoes seem to be kind of related to seals. For example as it was on sasukes left neck/shoulder. There were 3 tomoes and this writing around it.

    It could be total bullshit but just wondering what are your thoughts !
    Theory=high on crack....i mean are you kidding? If there was ANY way a sharingan could be 'unlocked' into a rinnegan, don't you think tobi/madara would have tried to do that instead of going to so much trouble to take nagato's rinnegan????
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    :mad::no_ignore:i think that the sharingan is the rinnegan poisoned by the uchihas haterade generation after generation:P
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by tallguy444 View Post
    :mad::no_ignore:i think that the sharingan is the rinnegan poisoned by the uchihas haterade generation after generation:P
    lol.. no dude.. that cant happen..i think the sage took steps at the beginning itself to lock the rinnegan.. and instead the older brother inherited a weaker mutation of the rinnegan.. sharingan.. :D

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    Sharingan is stronger than Rinnegan.
    are you kidding me?? :flaw:
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    yap could be possible
    one if the better theories
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by gleaming in drabness View Post
    So you guys, my first theory.
    I kind of have the feeling that the Sharingan could be a locked Rinnegan. Just thinking about this a for a few months and i would like to hear your opinion about it:

    i refer to the sons of the sage. One of them had the body and was the good one and the other had the eyes of the sage and was kind of the bad one.
    Here is my theory how the sharingan was created. I think the Sage kind of put a seal in his son with the eyes, that when he would do something cruel it would be sealed. Like when he attacked his brother because of jealousy, maybe that seal was activated and the sharingan was created. That the "inner circle" of the rinnegan got the tomoes on it = sharingan. So this could be the point why the uchiha, the descendants of the bad bro have a sharingan and not a rinnegan (although the descendant had some some sort of spiral in his eyes). Maybe another thing that would support my theory is that the tomoes seem to be kind of related to seals. For example as it was on sasukes left neck/shoulder. There were 3 tomoes and this writing around it.

    It could be total bullshit but just wondering what are your thoughts !
    nice theory here gleaming in drabness!

    have a question though...if sharingan is a locked rinnegan, that would make rinnegan a locked/sealed byakugan?...just a thought to amplify your great idea.

    i don't think so dude. rinnegan is a sole bloodline limit exclusive to the so6p. we don't know the extent of the powers yet, but the so6p wearing the rinnegan will tell us so...and only him...not his older son...nor nagato...
    sharingan is a derivation from the byakugan. it can never be the transmigration eye which controls all six nature chakra manipulation. the uchiha clan members, as descendants of the hyuuga clan, have varied ocular abilities. and to highlight these abilities are "the mangekyou" mystery.

    nagato could have had inherited the rinnegan - contrary to madara's claim that he gave the eyes to the child nagato. madara is a liar, he was wrong to mention it was not his doing that the kyuubi attacked the leaf. madara was dead wrong when a good minato narrated to Naruto how madara controlled the beast to attack the village.
    nagato's rinnegan origin must be told by someone with more credible stature in the manga -- old folks from the rain country perhaps.

    byakugan can never be feted against a rinnegan....it is never an apple to apple thing. and rinnegan could never be a locked byakugan (it is i who say this..and no one else), similar to a sharingan as a locked/sealed rinnegan.

    there are other mysteries re these doujutsus...one is ranmaru's ocular power as an unnamed bloodline limit.

    sorry dude...don't mean to spoil your thread...nevertheless it is a catchy thought!
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    ^^^ i knida poited this to him too. i' sure all the doujutsu in the manga are linked but by one being the sealed form of another. i hope though that hiashi and hizashi gets to use some powerful forbidden tech of the byakugan so that it can catch up to the sharingan and rinnegan. that will make me come back to like byakugan again as i did during the start of the series.
     
         

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    Re: Sharingan = a locked Rinnegan ? :O

    why does the jubi and the sage haave the same eyes
     
         

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