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    Tobi not immune to Kamui

    I've searched the forums and have either missed the thread that had this or i am right in assuming that this would be a first. if it is the former, then my sincerest apologies. if it is the latter, then good for me

    With regards to the topic that i stated, i just realized that konan said that tobi has to materialize before he can go to another dimension which is how konan managed to harm Tobi. if that were the case, would it not be possible that a well timed kamui might be able to tear tobi in half since we don't see any of kakashi's warped items in the same dimension as Tobi's (BTW: I say tobi since i am not assuming him as Madara)
    please give me your input on this as I'm still unsure whether this is truly possible.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    well i duuno cuz in the manga when kakashi triedto use it on him he told kakashi techniques like that have no effect on him
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    kakashi has to be very good at timing
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Might.. Kakashi already knew madaras warping tech before madara said it wouldn't work. I'm kind of assuming kakashi still can
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by Queran Uchiha View Post
    well i duuno cuz in the manga when kakashi triedto use it on him he told kakashi techniques like that have no effect on him
    which i believe is a lie...
    and since kakashi never tried, we can't know for sure...
    i believe Tobi said that since if he is intangible, he cannot be warped.
    which is why it must be aimed when he is warping....
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by Queran Uchiha View Post
    well i duuno cuz in the manga when kakashi triedto use it on him he told kakashi techniques like that have no effect on him
    Kakashi barely uses Kamui, so I think that he might suceed or fail also if he tries it on Tobi...There are chances that he succeeds though but it has lessened since Tobi had the Rinnegan
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    nah soz i recon he is immune to it but thts me
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Madara lost an arm, tanked Amaterasu. I think he can survive a Kamui..
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    great timing is needed for kakashi to succeed.. but i dont see it coming.. since madara has a lot up his sleeves...
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by uzumakikenshin View Post
    great timing is needed for kakashi to succeed.. but i dont see it coming.. since madara has a lot up his sleeves...
    well this is more on possibility anyway.....
    i just think that Tobi was bluffing and that he is still vulnerable....
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    im quite sure Kakashi did try to use kamui on Tobi but nothing happened...
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by vortexboy4 View Post
    im quite sure Kakashi did try to use kamui on Tobi but nothing happened...
    I have to second this.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by vortexboy4 View Post
    im quite sure Kakashi did try to use kamui on Tobi but nothing happened...
    could you provide a link to which chapter and page that is?
    like i said, this is not a solid thought yet. if it is disproved, it would mean that my theory lacked enough research.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    well this is more on possibility anyway.....
    i just think that Tobi was bluffing and that he is still vulnerable....
    yeah.. i really think he is... some deception styles in which he is very known... but it's a possibilty.. since there are times that he needs to solidify.... aside from proper timing.. i think if Kakashi speeds up to the level of Yondaime hokage..
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    i also think he is not immune to kakashi's kamui.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    i dont think that madara is immune to it but i think that the chances of kakashi being able to hit him with it are so small that its negligible
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by foamy View Post
    i dont think that madara is immune to it but i think that the chances of kakashi being able to hit him with it are so small that its negligible
    which is what I'm trying to say
    he was bluffing. he can be hit with kamui but it would be hard.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    I think if he times it right, he can get him
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    I think he said it won't work on him because he'll just simply warp back to their dimension
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSharingan View Post
    I think he said it won't work on him because he'll just simply warp back to their dimension
    yeah well kakashi hasn't tried and since the nail and other items that kakshi has warped has not popped out in tobi's dimension, i am guessing there is a different dimension. and since he is solid when he warps to his dimesion, it might be possible to warp him to a different place as well.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Ok there are many ways to interpret what Tobi said :
    1. Kamui has no effect on him because he makes himself intangible and thus he can't be warped. In this case if Kakashi could speed up the warping process and has a great timing... just like what konan aimed for... to force Madara to stay intangible for 5 minutes and then when he is solid strike him down he might just pull it off.
    2. Kamui doesn't work on him because he can travel between dimensions so he will just come back. We don't actually know where the item warped by kamui are, neither do we know what madara's dimension actually is. In this case Kakashi can't do a thing.
    3. Kamui actually doesn't work on him because he has a way to counter it. As above in this matter Kakashi has nothing to do.
    So there you have my opinion on this
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by Minato Sensei View Post
    Ok there are many ways to interpret what Tobi said :
    1. Kamui has no effect on him because he makes himself intangible and thus he can't be warped. In this case if Kakashi could speed up the warping process and has a great timing... just like what konan aimed for... to force Madara to stay intangible for 5 minutes and then when he is solid strike him down he might just pull it off.
    2. Kamui doesn't work on him because he can travel between dimensions so he will just come back. We don't actually know where the item warped by kamui are, neither do we know what madara's dimension actually is. In this case Kakashi can't do a thing.
    3. Kamui actually doesn't work on him because he has a way to counter it. As above in this matter Kakashi has nothing to do.
    So there you have my opinion on this
    All awesome ideas my friend.
    but what i was thinking was that since he is warping and is solid during that process, if kakashi uses kamui at that time, would it not tear madara in half since if he is halfway in the warp and his other half is warped elsewhere. even if he does survive he would be useless...
    nice input.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    All awesome ideas my friend.
    but what i was thinking was that since he is warping and is solid during that process, if kakashi uses kamui at that time, would it not tear madara in half since if he is halfway in the warp and his other half is warped elsewhere. even if he does survive he would be useless...
    nice input.
    Good one... i think it could work... but madara could just repair himself just like he did with his missing limbs several times. We don't know to which extent can he replace missing parts of his body so we can't say for sure if it works or not in this case.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Manga 487, page 4. I'd say it's debatable whether Kakashi actually executed the Kamui technique. As I recall it takes Kakashi at least a moment to gather the necessary chakra to initiate Kamui. Additionally, I believe he needs to focus on the technique while it's being performed. What it looks like to me is that he started Kamui, but once Madara stated it was useless Kakashi aborted the technique. Although, I can see how one could view the scene as Kamui being executed and Madara teleporting the Kamui away. I would argue that Kamui is intangible and we've seen that Madara must make physical contact with whatever he intends teleports away. So if Madara did teleport the Kamui away he would have displayed a version of his power we have never seen before. I believe the latter makes such an assumption invalid. Either way the anime will release eventually and we will know for sure once it's released.

    Regarding whether Kamui could possibly effect Madara I believe that indeed it could with correct timing. As we saw with Konan there is a weakness in Madara's teleport technique and if exploited correctly Kamui could connect. If anybody has the timing, distraction, and skill to pull it off, it's Kakashi.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi not immune to Kamui

    Quote Originally Posted by .:KingScorp View Post
    Kakashi barely uses Kamui, so I think that he might suceed or fail also if he tries it on Tobi...There are chances that he succeeds though but it has lessened since Tobi had the Rinnegan
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    which i believe is a lie...
    and since kakashi never tried, we can't know for sure...
    i believe Tobi said that since if he is intangible, he cannot be warped.
    which is why it must be aimed when he is warping....
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/487/4
    ^this link shows here kakashi using his O so Famous MS technique Kamui on madara uchiha. also kakashi even asked sakura to watch his body for him if hr passes out cuz we all know he can do it about three times then he DIES!. after kakashi tries madara tells him techniques like that have no effect on him its in PLAIN naruto manga writing. i dunno what your reading.
     
         

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