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    Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    Can somebody tell me which gate (out of all) is equal with SM in terms of speed
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    Quote Originally Posted by the destined child View Post
    Can somebody tell me which gate (out of all) is equal with SM in terms of speed
    Well it really just depends on the person. Gai using six gates is much more powerful than Lee using six gates due to the fact that Gai has more natural chakra, speed, and strength with than Lee. So he gets amplified more.

    If Naruto were to use Sage Mode, it'd be different than say... Sasuke due to the fact that Naruto has more chakra reserves than Sasuke.

    We really can't justify which gate is "equal", because each user has their own capabilities in each mode.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyesofthekyuubi44 View Post
    Well it really just depends on the person. Gai using six gates is much more powerful than Lee using six gates due to the fact that Gai has more natural chakra, speed, and strength with than Lee. So he gets amplified more.

    If Naruto were to use Sage Mode, it'd be different than say... Sasuke due to the fact that Naruto has more chakra reserves than Sasuke.

    We really can't justify which gate is "equal", because each user has their own capabilities in each mode.
    Well lets just assume its Naruto and lee fighting, how many gates should lee open?
     
         
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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    on that note we havn't really seen lee get into a fight in shippuden, we've seen him fight himself and thats it... So honestly, from what we've seen, he'd have to open all 8 just to die just to keep up with naruto
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    Quote Originally Posted by the destined child View Post
    Well lets just assume its Naruto and lee fighting, how many gates should lee open?
    lee cant beat naruto after he contorl the nine tailed
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    he never made an accusation that lee could beat naruto lol...
    he asked a question
    *if they were to fight* how many should lee open,
    lee should open all 8, ATTEMPT to keep up with naruto and then die inlike 5 minutes
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    I'd say Lee would either go seven gates, or eight. However, if he goes eight gates, he DIES. So it's a draw.

    I don't see Lee comparing with the Kyuubi though. But since you said Sage Mode, we'll work with that.
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    its hard to say i recon gai when he fought kisame would have probz been the right amount of gates to fight the sage mode
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    Such a comparison between Lee and Naruto is unfair to Lee, Naruto would still be standing,when Lee burns Himself out and dies from opening gates to mach Naruto Sage Mode.
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    eh...sage naruto really isnt that fast to me... :/ the only speed i saw of sage naruto is when he hopped down and destroyed the pains right before the fight...that whole fight...he really didnt show speed :/ i know he's faster, but id say he's either on sasuke's level or a bit lower...now kyuubi naruto is different, everytime the kyuubi is out, its speed is shown, and its highly impeccable
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    6 or 7 is probably equal to sage mode.
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Sarutobi View Post
    6 or 7 is probably equal to sage mode.
    Agreed, I'd think closer to 6 (I'm a little more conservative I guess), but 8 ought to pass everyone, (Raikage, Minato, and RKS Naruto) albeit that's not the question given the cost and benefit grow supra-linearly with gates to death etc.
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    about 6 gates to match sage mode in taijutsu, but sage mode still has massive amounts of chakra and has the advantage
    about 8 gates to match naruto's fox mode.
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    In terms of speed? Below first gate.
    Lee was much faster than Naruto in sage mode when Lee removed his weights.
    Now I'm talking in comparison to Lee and Naruto.
    The speed you get in gates mode is very depending on how much speed you got without gates.
    The gates only multiply your current speed and strength.

    So lets say Lee has natural speed of 4.5, and when he opens 1st gate, his speed and strength is 5 times more, so his speed in first gate is 22.5.

    Narutos natural speed is 3.5, lets say sage mode increases the speed and strength by 5 also, that means Narutos speed is only 17.5 in sage mode.

    (Got the 4.5 and 3.5 numbers from the databook stats.)

    In terms of strength: 5th- 6th gates.


    While Gates only increase Speed and strength, Sage mode increase Speed, strength, stamina, durability, ninjutsu and genjutsu.
     
         
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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiwara View Post
    In terms of speed? Below first gate.
    Lee was much faster than Naruto in sage mode when Lee removed his weights.
    Now I'm talking in comparison to Lee and Naruto.
    The speed you get in gates mode is very depending on how much speed you got without gates.
    The gates only multiply your current speed and strength.

    So lets say Lee has natural speed of 4.5, and when he opens 1st gate, his speed and strength is 5 times more, so his speed in first gate is 22.5.

    Narutos natural speed is 3.5, lets say sage mode increases the speed and strength by 5 also, that means Narutos speed is only 17.5 in sage mode.

    (Got the 4.5 and 3.5 numbers from the databook stats.)

    In terms of strength: 5th- 6th gate.

    Finally i'm getting my Answer
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiwara View Post
    In terms of speed? Below first gate.
    Lee was much faster than Naruto in sage mode when Lee removed his weights.
    Now I'm talking in comparison to Lee and Naruto.
    The speed you get in gates mode is very depending on how much speed you got without gates.
    The gates only multiply your current speed and strength.

    So lets say Lee has natural speed of 4.5, and when he opens 1st gate, his speed and strength is 5 times more, so his speed in first gate is 22.5.

    Narutos natural speed is 3.5, lets say sage mode increases the speed and strength by 5 also, that means Narutos speed is only 17.5 in sage mode.

    (Got the 4.5 and 3.5 numbers from the databook stats.)

    In terms of strength: 5th- 6th gates.


    While Gates only increase Speed and strength, Sage mode increase Speed, strength, stamina, durability, ninjutsu and genjutsu.
    This is correct if you assume linear multiplicative scaling; however, I think sage mode scales speed supra-linearly (like a quadratic or geometric growth). I wouldn't be surprised of the gates did too.

    I thought during the 2nd bell test Naruto said Kakashi was as fast as Lee before the time-skip, or maybe he was referring to taijutsu, I forget.

    Nonetheless, well put, and props for going to the data book. Also, it's interesting that you equate the gates effect on speed separately from strength, as I think that's novel.
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    I dont think Lee in gates is faster than Naruto in sage mode, in anime Lees speed was shown faster because thats his main trait, but narutos speed just wasnt emphasized that much.

    And i think perfect sage mode is better than any gate (even by guy)
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    Well i have to say 6 or 7... more likely 6. And about naruto's sage speed... well when he destroyed the first of pain's bodies, all 6 were there, the other 5 were watching... so if 5 pairs of rinnegan eyes couldn't keep up with him and have time to react.. it must mean it is pretty high speed.
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    Quote Originally Posted by Animeisalive View Post
    eh...sage naruto really isnt that fast to me... :/ the only speed i saw of sage naruto is when he hopped down and destroyed the pains right before the fight...that whole fight...he really didnt show speed :/ i know he's faster, but id say he's either on sasuke's level or a bit lower...now kyuubi naruto is different, everytime the kyuubi is out, its speed is shown, and its highly impeccable
    agreed
     
         

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    Re: Which gate is equal with Sage Mode?

    Quote Originally Posted by the destined child View Post
    Can somebody tell me which gate (out of all) is equal with SM in terms of speed
    I'd say all of them, once you activate sage mode I think Fusaku said that you activate new chakras in your body. It even comes with the danger of death if you dont use it right like the 8th gate. Just an oppinion thought might want to take a pinch of salt with it.
     
         

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