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12-01-2012, 05:47 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Necron
If I use an elemental jutsu with an Akimichi in his Giant Form, is the jutsu's size multiplied as well? For example, a raikiri will cover the whole giant hand of the user?
 Originally Posted by ReXii
No, you can only use akimichi related techniques in giant form i believe.
That theory was being discussed during my mod-ship though nothing was really in stone. As of now, you can use elemental techniques while enlarged. Though I'm sure when people start using Akimichies more often, the revamp will come and the "Only X rank ninjutsu whilst enlarge" will be posted.
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12-02-2012, 06:52 AM
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12-02-2012, 11:49 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
The body is still human flesh, the multi-size form just makes you a bigger target
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12-02-2012, 12:05 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Rasnall
I was going to question this as I have recently made a Choji bio (like a boss  ). Is their anyway to get an answer? Also I wanted to know if one was in multi size form (giant) and an opponent used a cutting jutsu like a wind or lighting that would normally cut someone quite deeply, then would it even scratch the Akimichi? I question this as due to the sheer size such jutsu would literally be the size of his little toe. (I feel in an RP fight I will have to link many pictures for my opponent to understand the massive size they can become I mean, you seen it? Shinobi are like ants lol) we know how big choji is already...this is him compared to his dad in multi size form.
Litterally...the size of his toe...
chidori eiso would definitelly harm him, as it is a 10 metter size blade. Now, a regular katana, imo it would be as if he stepped on a nail or something. In any case, I wouldn't play the "I'm too big to be affected by this" card (Made an Akimichi as well) cause it can be very contradictory. On the other hands, just think that your nagashi can strike everything till long range, and your raikiri is as big as 5 human beings. And don't forget you can "drink" water of up to B rank and C rank doton does not affect you
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12-02-2012, 12:22 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Tybone
The body is still human flesh, the multi-size form just makes you a bigger target 
Maybe I didnt explain properly lol, example: If I threw a knife at you the energy would transfer from me to the knife and then cut you in half lets say . Now if you did the same thing to someone of the size I am taking about, then that same amount of energy would no be enough to cut through the additional mass. So he knife may just stick in his leg. So when thinking of jutsu would this not be the same?
 Originally Posted by Necron
chidori eiso would definitelly harm him, as it is a 10 metter size blade. Now, a regular katana, imo it would be as if he stepped on a nail or something. In any case, I wouldn't play the "I'm too big to be affected by this" card (Made an Akimichi as well) cause it can be very contradictory. On the other hands, just think that your nagashi can strike everything till long range, and your raikiri is as big as 5 human beings.  And don't forget you can "drink" water of up to B rank and C rank doton does not affect you 
This is what I was looking for thanks. I know such jutsu would harm him, but the level of damage inflicted would be reduced I believe. Fireball jutsu, like burning a finger, chidori like being electrocuted but only numbing around the area of impact no the whole body. So I guess we would have to judge such things as they come about.
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12-03-2012, 12:32 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
Say me n my opponent are on a normal surface....then he uses a big ass water jutsu to create an ocean. And now we are standing on top of it. So can I use swamp now??what would be the effect??
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12-04-2012, 08:34 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
okay, i have a question, with hidan bio, can the original user and clones share the same symbol diagram drawn on the ground ?
for example..
A (with hidan bio) succeed to achieve the enemy's (B) blood, he licks and his body turned into black with markings, then he make clones in his current condition (with black curse and marking) then he draws his blood and makes that symbol on the ground so If his clone entered the symbol drawn on the ground and stabs in his neck,and ofcourse phoofed away, so will the enemy (B) also take the similar effect as him and get killed? maens one symbol drawn on the ground can be used with multiple clones + user? or if clones somehow able to draw multiple symbols/diagrams on the ground, so the user can enter any diagram drawn on the ground to user Curse Reverse technique?
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12-04-2012, 08:36 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Flash07
Say me n my opponent are on a normal surface....then he uses a big ass water jutsu to create an ocean. And now we are standing on top of it. So can I use swamp now??what would be the effect??
if you're standing on water then you can't use mud swamp, as the amount of water is maximum as the swamp requires..!
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12-04-2012, 09:43 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
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12-04-2012, 10:03 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by SHARINGAN_USER UCHIHA_ITACHI
okay, i have a question, with hidan bio, can the original user and clones share the same symbol diagram drawn on the ground ?
for example..
A (with hidan bio) succeed to achieve the enemy's (B) blood, he licks and his body turned into black with markings, then he make clones in his current condition (with black curse and marking) then he draws his blood and makes that symbol on the ground so If his clone entered the symbol drawn on the ground and stabs in his neck,and ofcourse phoofed away, so will the enemy (B) also take the similar effect as him and get killed? maens one symbol drawn on the ground can be used with multiple clones + user? or if clones somehow able to draw multiple symbols/diagrams on the ground, so the user can enter any diagram drawn on the ground to user Curse Reverse technique?
I honestly only got a portion of that, so here's what I got from it.
I would say a clone isn't able to use the ritual circle of Jashin to try and kill the target. It requires the user's blood to draw the circle of Jashin to inflict these wounds and seeing as the clone's can't draw blood, they can't draw the symbol. Even if the blood belongs to the same user technically, why would you want to use a clone? You don't die from the wound anyway, and a clone disperses as soon as he becomes stabbed from trying to kill the target, so it would only be a flesh wound. A clone would still be able to draw the symbol in blood, granted he get's the blood from the original body. That's as far as I'd go as allowing clones with the curse.
 Originally Posted by Flash07

I didn't get it 
I'm assuming you mean Swamp of the Underworld? It was recently added iirc that you don't need contact with the ground to use it, so theoretically you should be able to use it while standing on water. Nothing would happen, as it's just a swamp seeped underneath a lot of water. If anything, the swamp mixes with the water and that's it.
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12-04-2012, 10:20 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Alternative
I honestly only got a portion of that, so here's what I got from it.
I would say a clone isn't able to use the ritual circle of Jashin to try and kill the target. It requires the user's blood to draw the circle of Jashin to inflict these wounds and seeing as the clone's can't draw blood, they can't draw the symbol. Even if the blood belongs to the same user technically, why would you want to use a clone? You don't die from the wound anyway, and a clone disperses as soon as he becomes stabbed from trying to kill the target, so it would only be a flesh wound. A clone would still be able to draw the symbol in blood, granted he get's the blood from the original body. That's as far as I'd go as allowing clones with the curse.
I'm assuming you mean Swamp of the Underworld? It was recently added iirc that you don't need contact with the ground to use it, so theoretically you should be able to use it while standing on water. Nothing would happen, as it's just a swamp seeped underneath a lot of water. If anything, the swamp mixes with the water and that's it.
Cool....that's what I wanted to know thanks
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12-04-2012, 11:10 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Alternative
I honestly only got a portion of that, so here's what I got from it.
I would say a clone isn't able to use the ritual circle of Jashin to try and kill the target. It requires the user's blood to draw the circle of Jashin to inflict these wounds and seeing as the clone's can't draw blood, they can't draw the symbol. Even if the blood belongs to the same user technically, why would you want to use a clone? You don't die from the wound anyway, and a clone disperses as soon as he becomes stabbed from trying to kill the target, so it would only be a flesh wound. A clone would still be able to draw the symbol in blood, granted he get's the blood from the original body. That's as far as I'd go as allowing clones with the curse.
i can prove clones can do more than that...... in naruto vs Pain and Kakuzu (Naruto Shippūden Episode # 87), naruto's clone were severely wounded and still did not vanished until naruto made him vanish...when kakuzu hit naruto and his clones while he was making Rosen Shuriken, there were 3 clones + original naruto (which appeared to be clone), Kakuzu got them all with his threads, and stabbed his threads through there bodies, 3 clones disappeared as he did that while one remained on the ground half-dead, everybody there (Ino, choji, tenzo etc) thought that it was naruto who got caught, but after several seconds that one also disappeared,.... you can check the reference episode, same in naruto vs pain where clones stood against Shinra Tensei, even there were many of them which transferred the impact but still the front line clones didnt disappeared who got hit by the most powerful force/shockwave of the jutsu..!
also hidan clones will be used as one-hit-kill..!!
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12-04-2012, 11:22 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by SHARINGAN_USER UCHIHA_ITACHI
i can prove clones can do more than that...... in naruto vs Pain and Kakuzu (Naruto Shippūden Episode # 87), naruto's clone were severely wounded and still did not vanished until naruto made him vanish...when kakuzu hit naruto and his clones while he was making Rosen Shuriken, there were 3 clones + original naruto (which appeared to be clone), Kakuzu got them all with his threads, and stabbed his threads through there bodies, 3 clones disappeared as he did that while one remained on the ground half-dead, everybody there (Ino, choji, tenzo etc) thought that it was naruto who got caught, but after several seconds that one also disappeared,.... you can check the reference episode, same in naruto vs pain where clones stood against Shinra Tensei, even there were many of them which transferred the impact but still the front line clones didnt disappeared who got hit by the most powerful force/shockwave of the jutsu..!
also hidan clones will be used as one-hit-kill..!!
We don't follow that principle here,its different.
In our Rp clones can't even bite their fingers to do summoning as it would make him poof away.Such a small sense of pain is enough to kill a clone.
Yet,
There are jutsu's here like the reaper seal which causes immense pain to the user but can be used by clones.
So all in all,alternative is right^^
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12-04-2012, 11:55 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
Does anyone have an answer for me? lol
If an Akimichi in multi size form to the size of Gedo can use regular jutsu? And if so how big would they been.
I feel the answer is no, apart for the OP factor, but I think that while chanelling chakra through the body to become such a size would require an even large amount of chakra to then form any type of elemental jutsu. But while using calorie control I see no problem with using such justsu as it is similair to sage mode.
Does anyone agrre or disagree with this?
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12-04-2012, 12:31 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Rasnall
Does anyone have an answer for me? lol
If an Akimichi in multi size form to the size of Gedo can use regular jutsu? And if so how big would they been.
I feel the answer is no, apart for the OP factor, but I think that while chanelling chakra through the body to become such a size would require an even large amount of chakra to then form any type of elemental jutsu. But while using calorie control I see no problem with using such justsu as it is similair to sage mode.
Does anyone agrre or disagree with this?
I don't know how you can perform elemental jutsus while in that form.
Cuz as a Nara, I know that we cannot use any other elemental Justus after trapping the opponent in the shadow.
So if you go by the same logic Akimichis shouldn't be able to do it....(I don't know if it was ever shown in the anime/manga) I dunno how it works in our RP.
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12-04-2012, 01:06 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Flash07
I don't know how you can perform elemental jutsus while in that form.
Cuz as a Nara, I know that we cannot use any other elemental Justus after trapping the opponent in the shadow.
So if you go by the same logic Akimichis shouldn't be able to do it....(I don't know if it was ever shown in the anime/manga) I dunno how it works in our RP.
Actually, you can use other elements, but it would break the shadow bind, as the shadow is considered an element (not a KG, but still an element). Still, as the Akimichi Jutsu is working with activation, this does not apply here...
 Originally Posted by Rasnall
Does anyone have an answer for me? lol
If an Akimichi in multi size form to the size of Gedo can use regular jutsu? And if so how big would they been.
I feel the answer is no, apart for the OP factor, but I think that while chanelling chakra through the body to become such a size would require an even large amount of chakra to then form any type of elemental jutsu. But while using calorie control I see no problem with using such justsu as it is similair to sage mode.
Does anyone agrre or disagree with this?
I asked the same question one page back. As of now, there is no special rule that prevents you from doing so. Just keep in mind that the structure of the jutsu won't be changed though, so it's overall potential will still be the same rank. Arguably it may also be less focused, as it is distributed on a greater surface, but again, akimichi have a higher chakra reserve, so I guess the jutsu stays the same.
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12-04-2012, 01:32 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Flash07
I don't know how you can perform elemental jutsus while in that form.
Cuz as a Nara, I know that we cannot use any other elemental Justus after trapping the opponent in the shadow.
So if you go by the same logic Akimichis shouldn't be able to do it....(I don't know if it was ever shown in the anime/manga) I dunno how it works in our RP.
 Originally Posted by Necron
Actually, you can use other elements, but it would break the shadow bind, as the shadow is considered an element (not a KG, but still an element).  Still, as the Akimichi Jutsu is working with activation, this does not apply here...
I asked the same question one page back. As of now, there is no special rule that prevents you from doing so. Just keep in mind that the structure of the jutsu won't be changed though, so it's overall potential will still be the same rank. Arguably it may also be less focused, as it is distributed on a greater surface, but again, akimichi have a higher chakra reserve, so I guess the jutsu stays the same. 
I agree with you flash. As I mentioned I didnt think you would be able to, and the point that Necron raised would also be right. If the rank remains the same then the jutsu as a whole would be the same, meaning it would be no bigger or stronger then before. That being said...using fireball jutsu would be like the shooting a fire ball from his finger. Oh well....I guess this will be a topic of much debate.
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12-04-2012, 02:33 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
This is just a random thought, but would ocular genjutsu like that inflicted through the Sharingan affect blind people?
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12-04-2012, 02:37 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Alternative
This is just a random thought, but would ocular genjutsu like that inflicted through the Sharingan affect blind people?
Nope, it requires eye contact, not sure you can achieve eye contact with a blinded person, its effectively the same as gai's technique, don't look at the eye's so you get no genjutsu, unable to look at the eyes if you are blind right?
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12-04-2012, 04:13 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Igneel
We don't follow that principle here,its different.
In our Rp clones can't even bite their fingers to do summoning as it would make him poof away.Such a small sense of pain is enough to kill a clone.
Yet,
There are jutsu's here like the reaper seal which causes immense pain to the user but can be used by clones.
So all in all,alternative is right^^
O_________O you cant make 3T customs, you can't use hidan tech with clones.. WTF
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12-04-2012, 04:17 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by SHARINGAN_USER UCHIHA_ITACHI
O_________O you cant make 3T customs, you can't use hidan tech with clones.. WTF
where the hell did you get that you can't make 3T Customs? O__O
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12-04-2012, 04:52 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Migualon J.J.
where the hell did you get that you can't make 3T Customs? O__O
yeah, you can only submit custom Mangekyou techniques and you need sensei status for that -___- read in some thread and asked a mod, i think it was scrops...!
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12-04-2012, 05:00 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
May I ask why nobody uses this? 
(Suiton Hijutsu: Kirisame) - Water Release Secret Technique: Mist Rain
Rank C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 15 (+5 per turn active)
Damage points: N/A (-10 to opponents ninjutsu)
Description: A technique known by Kirigakure Shinobi where the user first performs the following hand seals Ram → Dog → Rat and then they make it rain. Any chakra that comes into contact with this rain will be eaten and reduces the power of the techniques by -10 damage. This technique lasts three turns.
Note: Can only be used by biographies from the Hidden Mist.
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12-04-2012, 05:12 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by -Cerberus-
May I ask why nobody uses this?
(Suiton Hijutsu: Kirisame) - Water Release Secret Technique: Mist Rain
Rank C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 15 (+5 per turn active)
Damage points: N/A (-10 to opponents ninjutsu)
Description: A technique known by Kirigakure Shinobi where the user first performs the following hand seals Ram → Dog → Rat and then they make it rain. Any chakra that comes into contact with this rain will be eaten and reduces the power of the techniques by -10 damage. This technique lasts three turns.
Note: Can only be used by biographies from the Hidden Mist.
well maybe, and i'm just throwing it out there..... its a village custom
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12-05-2012, 12:38 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Better
well maybe, and i'm just throwing it out there..... its a village custom 
It's in the jutsu list for Water techniques.
My guess is that no one uses it because no one is in Kiri except for the cool people. Maybe I should use it more. :3
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