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03-15-2013, 12:54 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by xHoudinii
Question: if your opponent has their hands on the ground and you use swamp of the underworld are theyre hands trapped straight away? Or could they do hand seals?
See everyone forgets how fast Swamp of the Underworld is. Right when you complete the hand seals and chakra for the jutsu the swamp forms right then and there. If you actually watch Jiraiya uses the jutsu, the snake sinks right then and there and if his chakra was on track he could have sink the snake once he complete the conditions for the jutsu.
Basically what I am saying is, no the character cannot do any hand seals and really is dead lol according to the anime and manga.
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03-15-2013, 01:01 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Solf J. Kimblee
See everyone forgets how fast Swamp of the Underworld is. Right when you complete the hand seals and chakra for the jutsu the swamp forms right then and there. If you actually watch Jiraiya uses the jutsu, the snake sinks right then and there and if his chakra was on track he could have sink the snake once he complete the conditions for the jutsu.
Basically what I am saying is, no the character cannot do any hand seals and really is dead lol according to the anime and manga.
I thought that too lol if you watch the video howard posted earlier in this thread it definantly seems that way.
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03-15-2013, 01:10 AM
#3128
Shadow/Fuuinjutsu Master
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by xHoudinii
I thought that too lol if you watch the video howard posted earlier in this thread it definantly seems that way.
After I finished I noticed that video. I think the mods should give us how it should be used in our rp like Shining Heavy(I don't know how to spell its Japanesse name) which is direct focus on the eye focus and burns immediately and almost impossible to avoid.
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03-15-2013, 01:22 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Solf J. Kimblee
See everyone forgets how fast Swamp of the Underworld is. Right when you complete the hand seals and chakra for the jutsu the swamp forms right then and there. If you actually watch Jiraiya uses the jutsu, the snake sinks right then and there and if his chakra was on track he could have sink the snake once he complete the conditions for the jutsu.
Basically what I am saying is, no the character cannot do any hand seals and really is dead lol according to the anime and manga.
Ah, I don't think so myself. There are just so many possible arguments against it.
Orochimaru's summon was too big to have reactions as fast as one's fingertips/palms.
The speed of the technique can't really be proven from the scene, as it only showed the swamp when it was already created, not the process of its creation. 1 second is enough to pull your hands away from the swamp.
The swamp doesn't actually pull you or your hands upon contact, it's your weight that does that. Obviously your legs would be the ones sinking while you're able to pull your hands up, allowing you to perform handseals.
As for the bolded part, I can only say that I disagree.
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03-16-2013, 06:28 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
need someone not from konoha or iwa to answer this
can water encapmlement piller
stop both fire majestic annihilation and lava style socrchign rocks jutsu?
lava is nuertal to water according to scorps thread there are five rocks and would the rocks keep going if the water does put out the lava? shouldn't the water have evaporated when the lava jutsu hit it?
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03-16-2013, 07:32 PM
#3131
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
No it cannot. It is common sense that an A rank Lava jutsu and S rank Fire jutsu can overpower the S rank Water jutsu. That is a lot of heat for one Water jutsu to take on. If the S rank Water jutsu was used twice on each jutsu then yes it would be successful.
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03-16-2013, 07:38 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Solf J. Kimblee
No it cannot. It is common sense that an A rank Lava jutsu and S rank Fire jutsu can overpower the S rank Water jutsu. That is a lot of heat for one Water jutsu to take on. If the S rank Water jutsu was used twice on each jutsu then yes it would be successful.
so would you say the lava rocks continue ( they were used second)
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03-16-2013, 07:42 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
I disagree.
Though it may seem as common sense, the ranking system says otherwise Solf. S-ranked water vs S-ranked fire degrades the water to A-ranked, and the water procceds. The water would then encounter the lava technique. They're neutral to one another, and thus would cancel out eachother, and the boulders would be stopped in their tracks. As simple as that.
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03-16-2013, 07:53 PM
#3134
Shadow/Fuuinjutsu Master
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Gobi Gobletsson
I disagree.
Though it may seem as common sense, the ranking system says otherwise Solf. S-ranked water vs S-ranked fire degrades the water to A-ranked, and the water procceds. The water would then encounter the lava technique. They're neutral to one another, and thus would cancel out eachother, and the boulders would be stopped in their tracks. As simple as that.
See I thought of that too at first but the only thing is that the ranking system is kind of iffy. If the S rank Water jutsu takes on the S rank Fire jutsu, shouldn't the water but E rank in the end? I mean it would take a lot of water to take out a S rank Fire jutsu and the Water that takes on the Fire is S rank so the water that would need to be take out the fire is A rank which leaves one rank left which is E rank.
But hey according to the ranking system, you are correct Gobi but how was the jutsus used in order, Haku?
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03-16-2013, 07:56 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Solf J. Kimblee
See I thought of that too at first but the only thing is that the ranking system is kind of iffy. If the S rank Water jutsu takes on the S rank Fire jutsu, shouldn't the water but E rank in the end? I mean it would take a lot of water to take out a S rank Fire jutsu and the Water that takes on the Fire is S rank so the water that would need to be take out the fire is A rank which leaves one rank left which is E rank.
But hey according to the ranking system, you are correct Gobi but how was the jutsus used in order, Haku?
S-rank Water = A-rank Water + A-rank Water.
Therefore
S-rank Water vs S-rank Fire = A-rank Water left, because only one half of the waters power would be required (since A-rank Water = S-rank Fire.)
Lava and water are neutral, so A-rank Water = A-rank Lava.
In short, that water jutsu can deal with both the Fire and Lava jutsu.
Order: Fire > Water > Lava
The water would continue after the fire and hit you, but if you used the Lava you'd be able to stop the Water, like I said to Zanji via vms already.
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03-16-2013, 08:09 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
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03-16-2013, 08:15 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
Just to throw my two cents in, the ranking system is a HORRIBLE method to go by.
Now, if you treat it as
S=80
A=60
B=40...etc, and that Elemental weaknesses boost the power of the stronger element by +20, then the ranking system works just fine.
This whole A+A=S rank is a HIGHLY flawed system, where as if you go by damage points, you have a quantifiable damage value - and thus equations - that you can use to see how various jutsu interact.
Of course, physics takes over at some point (How are five rocks going to stop a massive wave? They're not; if they don't get washed away, then they're going to punch through it, leaving the wave intact as it continues on), but that's a more case-by-case basis.
Note: This should be bolstered by the fact that a jutsu's rank is a combination of its Power and its complexity. I could have a highly complex jutsu that barely had any force enough, and it could be S-rank if it was complex enough.
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03-16-2013, 08:17 PM
#3138
Shadow/Fuuinjutsu Master
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by RockLeeGreenBeast
S-rank Water = A-rank Water + A-rank Water.
Therefore
S-rank Water vs S-rank Fire = A-rank Water left, because only one half of the waters power would be required (since A-rank Water = S-rank Fire.)
Lava and water are neutral, so A-rank Water = A-rank Lava.
In short, that water jutsu can deal with both the Fire and Lava jutsu.
Order: Fire > Water > Lava
The water would continue after the fire and hit you, but if you used the Lava you'd be able to stop the Water, like I said to Zanji via vms already.
See that is something I never understood about the ranking system. How is S rank Water jutsu equal to two A rank Water jutsu and S rank Fire jutsu going against S rank Water goes down to A rank and not E rank. Could we get a rp mod or even rp admin to give me an explanation on why.
 Originally Posted by KeotsuEclipse
Just to throw my two cents in, the ranking system is a HORRIBLE method to go by.
Now, if you treat it as
S=80
A=60
B=40...etc, and that Elemental weaknesses boost the power of the stronger element by +20, then the ranking system works just fine.
This whole A+A=S rank is a HIGHLY flawed system, where as if you go by damage points, you have a quantifiable damage value - and thus equations - that you can use to see how various jutsu interact.
Of course, physics takes over at some point (How are five rocks going to stop a massive wave? They're not; if they don't get washed away, then they're going to punch through it, leaving the wave intact as it continues on), but that's a more case-by-case basis.
Note: This should be bolstered by the fact that a jutsu's rank is a combination of its Power and its complexity. I could have a highly complex jutsu that barely had any force enough, and it could be S-rank if it was complex enough.
That is what I am saying, it is flawed because of the A + A= S and not taking in account of physics and volume.
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Last edited by Solf J. Kimblee; 03-16-2013 at 08:19 PM.
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03-16-2013, 08:22 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
Don't get me wrong, I myself also think the ranking system is flawed, and completely nullyfies the damage points added to techniques(Beside to show they do actual damage). But as it stands right now, we're to follow the ranking system untill it's changed.
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03-16-2013, 08:28 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Gobi Gobletsson
Don't get me wrong, I myself also think the ranking system is flawed, and completely nullyfies the damage points added to techniques(Beside to show they do actual damage). But as it stands right now, we're to follow the ranking system untill it's changed.
To be fair, no where does it say we have to follow the ranking system instead of the damage system, just as no where does it say that the health and chakra systems are ever NOT in effect.
However, as we're allowed to set our own rules for battle, I don't suppose its THAT big of a deal.
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03-16-2013, 08:30 PM
#3141
Shadow/Fuuinjutsu Master
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by KeotsuEclipse
To be fair, no where does it say we have to follow the ranking system instead of the damage system, just as no where does it say that the health and chakra systems are ever NOT in effect.
However, as we're allowed to set our own rules for battle, I don't suppose its THAT big of a deal.
Hmm now this is true also. Dang it, I rep you. Why can't I rep Keo-senpai?
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03-17-2013, 09:01 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
If you are put into a genjutsu .Whilst you started using a jutsu that requires no movement or handsigns.Would the technique go on? as genjustu disrupts ones chakra flow.Which in turn should disrupt the technique as they wouldnt have control of it ? the tech is question is lightning release:raining stars.(or something like that)
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03-17-2013, 09:10 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by blaise12
If you are put into a genjutsu .Whilst you started using a jutsu that requires no movement or handsigns.Would the technique go on? as genjustu disrupts ones chakra flow.Which in turn should disrupt the technique as they wouldnt have control of it ? the tech is question is lightning release:raining stars.(or something like that)
If you are placed under Bringer of Darkness, can you still use ninjutsu at the same time? Of course you can, otherwise releasing a genjutsu through the use of a technique would be impossible.
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03-18-2013, 07:07 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
question,i specialise in lightning meaning i can do jutsu with a single handseal,but does that mean i can also perform jutsu hand seals with a single hand? or does single handseals mean you need both hands?cause i though it ment single hand handseals and not just 1 handseal,
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03-18-2013, 07:28 AM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Délta
question,i specialise in lightning meaning i can do jutsu with a single handseal,but does that mean i can also perform jutsu hand seals with a single hand? or does single handseals mean you need both hands?cause i though it ment single hand handseals and not just 1 handseal,
A single hand seal, but you still must use two hands.
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03-20-2013, 03:48 PM
#3146
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
What are the rules for the smoke ninjutsu bios?
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03-20-2013, 04:19 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
How long am I able to stay up in the air, if I propel myself with Hurricane fist?
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03-20-2013, 04:23 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
It solely depends on the angle you launch yourself.
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03-20-2013, 04:26 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Better
It solely depends on the angle you launch yourself.
It is 90 degrees, so straight up.
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Last edited by Ezio..; 03-20-2013 at 04:32 PM.
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03-20-2013, 04:33 PM
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Re: Q&a - open for every rank!
 Originally Posted by Ezio..
It is 90 degrees, so straight up.
I believe 45 degrees would keep you in mid air for much longer. o-o
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