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    ^^ All it takes is training.... The more you train and practice... The better you become... I honestly think sasuke wouldnt have those 6 point star eyes if he wouldnt have been doin so much training... his eyes would have jus switcher regularly like itachi and madaras....

    Think about it... Hes eyes changed right after itachi gave him ms and madara told him the supossed truth about itachi.... its like he got ms from itachi and then madara turns around and tells him sum more shockin news and his eyes upgrade again.... If he decideds to get ems it will be greatly improved.... But i think sasuke will unlock another secret... Besides ems... It sjus seems summin kishi would do...
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steinbiz View Post
    mangekyou sharingan is just an evolved form of sharingan, if your not born with sharingan, you can't learn MS. MS is pretty much a whole different sharingan than the normal sharingan. kakashi couldn't copy it.
    ok. SO WHERE DID KAKASHI LEARN IT FROM THEN? cause i dont believe in the obito theory. so either he developed it himself through time or someone did teach him. i dont believe in that crap about you having to have your best friend killed to obtain it.
     
         

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    that justsu ...that all i ahv been reading more than anything else...

    ok 1st of all in manga.....naruto is not waering shirt plus he has some wounds and scratches on his body..that means he is hurt in some kinds .......why would he get hurt if using rasenshuriken ???? only his hand should get hurt !!! right !!!!!
    but when he uses KYUUBI ...or anything related to kyuubi chakra he is hurt all over ...

    conclusion that ..."that jutsu" 100% uses kyuubi's chakra ....

    guyz what do u think !!!
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by alimujtaba786 View Post
    that justsu ...that all i ahv been reading more than anything else...

    ok 1st of all in manga.....naruto is not waering shirt plus he has some wounds and scratches on his body..that means he is hurt in some kinds .......why would he get hurt if using rasenshuriken ???? only his hand should get hurt !!! right !!!!!
    but when he uses KYUUBI ...or anything related to kyuubi chakra he is hurt all over ...

    conclusion that ..."that jutsu" 100% uses kyuubi's chakra ....

    guyz what do u think !!!
    i also believe so considering the fact that jiraiya told him not to use it. by that time, naruto hasnt been taught the rasenshuriken so the jutsu probably has to do something with the kyuubi.

    Another theory might be that: by the time he fought kazuzu the rasenshuriken was only 50% complete so he might be in the process of completing it a 100%, maybe the rasenshuriken is a long range jutsu after all and that is why the smoke between the two mountains.
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by stigie78 View Post
    ok. SO WHERE DID KAKASHI LEARN IT FROM THEN? cause i dont believe in the obito theory. so either he developed it himself through time or someone did teach him. i dont believe in that crap about you having to have your best friend killed to obtain it.
    training.... all u gotta do is read back when madara was talkin bout his brother...
     
         

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    Each person of Pein only has one power, as j-man figured out. The fat guy absorbed, and the others... I don't remember. Each person that has the rinengan in its eye is one of the 6 paths. I agree that there is a 7th pein body, and that it is the one in Konoha. Perhaps the power of the rinengan is that they can use all of these powers as if they were one individual. To do that the real pein has to extract the souls or something like it... similar to why I think they need pein to be at the jinchuriki extraction process. Thus what j-man said about the real one not being with them doesn't refer to pein, it just refers to naruto being the one in the prophecy.

    Ever since Naruto hurt Sakura using the 9-tails energy against his fight with Orochimaru he has adamantly refused to EVER USE THAT POWER again. What has given us any indication that he would suddenly change his mind? NOTHING. Leading me to the conclusion that 'that justsu" is something j-man worked on him with that he couldn't previously do without relying on the 9-tails chakra. Remember that scar that J-man had from when Naruto grew the 3rd or 4th tail while they were training? That is probably from when they were working on "that jutsu". Now that he has sage power, he probably has enough power to do whatever it is on his own.
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by meunch01 View Post
    Each person of Pein only has one power, as j-man figured out. The fat guy absorbed, and the others... I don't remember. Each person that has the rinengan in its eye is one of the 6 paths. I agree that there is a 7th pein body, and that it is the one in Konoha. Perhaps the power of the rinengan is that they can use all of these powers as if they were one individual. To do that the real pein has to extract the souls or something like it... similar to why I think they need pein to be at the jinchuriki extraction process. Thus what j-man said about the real one not being with them doesn't refer to pein, it just refers to naruto being the one in the prophecy.

    Ever since Naruto hurt Sakura using the 9-tails energy against his fight with Orochimaru he has adamantly refused to EVER USE THAT POWER again. What has given us any indication that he would suddenly change his mind? NOTHING. Leading me to the conclusion that 'that justsu" is something j-man worked on him with that he couldn't previously do without relying on the 9-tails chakra. Remember that scar that J-man had from when Naruto grew the 3rd or 4th tail while they were training? That is probably from when they were working on "that jutsu". Now that he has sage power, he probably has enough power to do whatever it is on his own.
    sorry, are you replying? it seems that way. if so, please hit reply under whatever post you want to reply to so we know what post are your responses directed to.
    thanks again

    Quote Originally Posted by meercy View Post
    training.... all u gotta do is read back when madara was talkin bout his brother...
    yea i think it is training too. thanks anywway

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    hahahah we should calm down but we should also look @ this



    Yahiko Pain corresponds to the Deva realm (天道, tendō)
    Summoner Pain (in this case, the Girl Pain) corresponds to the Animal realm (畜生道, chikushōdō)
    Fat Pain is the Preta/Hungry Ghost realm (餓鬼道, gakidō)
    Sock Pain = Asura realm (修羅道, shuradō)
    Skinny Pain aka. Shang Tsung = Human realm (人間道, ningendō)
    Old man Pain = Naraka/Hell realm (地獄道, jigokudō)

    There are also some comments on Yahiko Pain and Sock Pain, though I can't make it out, nor can I make out anything in the first speech bubble.
    your sig is funny. i also saved 50% on car ins. but mine is progressive. lol
     
         
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    [QUOTE=stigie78;420013]sorry, are you replying? it seems that way. if so, please hit reply under whatever post you want to reply to so we know what post are your responses directed to.
    thanks again

    I didn't quote anything because I was commenting on conclusions that I had gained from reading many quotes and the manga. I promise that the next time I post I'll quote every single post that helped me come to these conclusions.
    Thanks
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by meunch01 View Post
    Each person of Pein only has one power, as j-man figured out. The fat guy absorbed, and the others... I don't remember. Each person that has the rinengan in its eye is one of the 6 paths. I agree that there is a 7th pein body, and that it is the one in Konoha. Perhaps the power of the rinengan is that they can use all of these powers as if they were one individual.
    But theres more to negatos power than that... i agree the 6 path thing and there is one more body and its negato....

    Think about it... Negato can use every element.... Thats the way of the rinengan..... J Man said it best... Every technique he threw out negato learned it.... At the age of 10.....

    But j man didnt teach negato, yahiko, or konan no summoning techniques.... Not saying they couldnt learn how to do it, but it takes up to much time chakra and energy for one person.....So my conclusion is....

    Negato figured out that he could use otha bodys for these techniques.... So he got a aresonal of bodies.... One who can absorb energy, one who is skilled, one who uses weapons, and so forth..... And that may be sum wat of the 6th element... To use or learn how to control different skills and master it.... That sounds lame, but its proly more to it....

    P.S. After kind of re-reading ur post i understand what u are saying.... So in a since ur right.... But i still feel like my theory is correct...
     
         

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    I like your addition, it adds more to and compliments what I think.
     
         

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    i wonder what this sixth element is. it would be good to see it mabye naruto has it who knows
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by meunch01 View Post
    Each person of Pein only has one power, as j-man figured out. The fat guy absorbed, and the others... I don't remember. Each person that has the rinengan in its eye is one of the 6 paths. I agree that there is a 7th pein body, and that it is the one in Konoha. Perhaps the power of the rinengan is that they can use all of these powers as if they were one individual. To do that the real pein has to extract the souls or something like it... similar to why I think they need pein to be at the jinchuriki extraction process. Thus what j-man said about the real one not being with them doesn't refer to pein, it just refers to naruto being the one in the prophecy.
    Ever since Naruto hurt Sakura using the 9-tails energy against his fight with Orochimaru he has adamantly refused to EVER USE THAT POWER again. What has given us any indication that he would suddenly change his mind? NOTHING. Leading me to the conclusion that 'that justsu" is something j-man worked on him with that he couldn't previously do without relying on the 9-tails chakra. Remember that scar that J-man had from when Naruto grew the 3rd or 4th tail while they were training? That is probably from when they were working on "that jutsu". Now that he has sage power, he probably has enough power to do whatever it is on his own.

    1 the real not being with them dosent refear to naruto but the real pein.
    2 If u r refering to that scar in his body, 4 tails naruto did it.


    ps: does anyone know's wath elements are required 2 make light and dark jutsus?
     
         

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    ITS APART OF THIS
    Aside from the five basic types of nature transformation, there is also a sixth type: the transformation of the Yin (陰, In) and Yang (陽, Yō) nature of chakra. Not much is known about this so far, but Yamato implies that it is the source of certain non-elemental jutsu such as Shadow Imitation Technique, Multi-Size Technique, medical Ninjutsu, and Genjutsu. It's also unclear if it's a sixth elemental type or another type of chakra altogether.

    Quote Originally Posted by stigie78 View Post
    sorry, are you replying? it seems that way. if so, please hit reply under whatever post you want to reply to so we know what post are your responses directed to.
    thanks again


    yea i think it is training too. thanks anywway



    your sig is funny. i also saved 50% on car ins. but mine is progressive. lol
    tY
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeafDude View Post
    1 the real not being with them dosent refear to naruto but the real pein.
    2 If u r refering to that scar in his body, 4 tails naruto did it.


    ps: does anyone know's wath elements are required 2 make light and dark jutsus?
    Thank u leafdude, I was about to explain to him too on J-man's quote and how he got the scar on his chest.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurita210 View Post
    Thank u leafdude, I was about to explain to him too on J-man's quote and how he got the scar on his chest.
    xD lol ok

    Btw do u or anyone here knows hath elementals r need 2 make light and dark jutsus?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeafDude View Post
    xD lol ok

    Btw do u or anyone here knows hath elementals r need 2 make light and dark jutsus?
    No, man, I dont even remember Yamato ever commenting on ying and yang elements. When did he comment on that ?? Was it when Kakashi and Yamato were teaching Naruto about wind maipulation ???

    Quote Originally Posted by LeafDude View Post
    xD lol ok

    Btw do u or anyone here knows hath elementals r need 2 make light and dark jutsus?
    I never read the manga from the begining, I started from when Hidan and Kakuzo first come into play... I guess the manga says a lot more than the animated series... So do u think I should read the manga from the begining ???

    Quote Originally Posted by LeafDude View Post
    xD lol ok

    Btw do u or anyone here knows hath elementals r need 2 make light and dark jutsus?
    O yea and where did u get this whole deal about light and dark jutso's ????
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurita210 View Post
    No, man, I dont even remember Yamato ever commenting on ying and yang elements. When did he comment on that ?? Was it when Kakashi and Yamato were teaching Naruto about wind maipulation ???



    I never read the manga from the begining, I started from when Hidan and Kakuzo first come into play... I guess the manga says a lot more than the animated series... So do u think I should read the manga from the begining ???
    idk, i just saw on the anime naruto asking 2 kakashi wath were light and dark made of when he learn that ice is made of wind and water combination.
     
         

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    skimarua has dark stye jutsu but this is it ppl
    Aside from the five basic types of nature transformation, there is also a sixth type: the transformation of the Yin (陰, In) and Yang (陽, Yō) nature of chakra. Not much is known about this so far, but Yamato implies that it is the source of certain non-elemental jutsu such as Shadow Imitation Technique, Multi-Size Technique, medical Ninjutsu, and Genjutsu. It's also unclear if it's a sixth elemental type or another type of chakra altogether.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeafDude View Post
    ps: does anyone know's wath elements are required 2 make light and dark jutsus?
    thats wat we dont know as of yet or jus have not thought about it thorughly..

    Quote Originally Posted by SAKumono26 View Post
    skimarua has dark stye jutsu but this is it ppl
    Aside from the five basic types of nature transformation, there is also a sixth type: the transformation of the Yin (陰, In) and Yang (陽, Yō) nature of chakra. Not much is known about this so far, but Yamato implies that it is the source of certain non-elemental jutsu such as Shadow Imitation Technique, Multi-Size Technique, medical Ninjutsu, and Genjutsu. It's also unclear if it's a sixth elemental type or another type of chakra altogether.
    so are u implyin that naruto may have the 6th element... accordin to ying and yang.... kinda like....

    Kakashis chidori..... And the second infinite darkness technique.. which was a genjutsu...
     
         
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