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06-06-2011, 01:17 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
Naruto, although not at fault, does not have the experience or resolve to take on [much less take out] Raikage. Naruto is trying to save his friends and fight Sasuke, but Raikage is trying to save the entire world. Unlike the Pein fight though, Naruto is not avenging anyone; the situation is definitely seen more clearly through Raikage's eyes, and that is why Naruto is not ready to fight him.
It's not a simple matter of who has a bigger chakra-peen; if it was, Naruto would clearly win.
The only way I can see this playing out with Naruto on top (without external circumstances like Bee and Tsunade) is Naruto lending "his" power to the Kyuubi, and letting the Kyuubi fight Raikage in a reduced-power state like 4-6 tails.
Then again, with the Bee stuff in the recent chapter it appears that it will be external circumstances, probably Bee, that will let Naruto get around the current obstacle.
Guess we will just have to wait and see.
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Last edited by Nittskay; 06-06-2011 at 01:20 AM.
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06-06-2011, 04:15 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
lol if only raykage knew naruto's rasenshuriken is a jinchuriky bomb =/ (i dont like raykage)
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06-06-2011, 05:50 AM
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Matador de passarinhos
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
 Originally Posted by MrRedshades
i kinda wanted to see the copy ninja go on a rampage with zabuza's blade, they said they would show it but they never did
Kishi just drew Lee on rampage:
Just wait and kish will do the same thing for Kakashi.
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06-06-2011, 06:36 AM
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Academy Student
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
 Originally Posted by Pervy nin
Interesting chap and it deserves some claps.
It looked like Naruto was about to perform some sick ninja technique because he was forming some sleek hand seals...
Maybe that's why bee intervened. Had he not he knew his "brother" would meet his end before he could land a fatal blow on Naruto.
Also, for those of you who think Naruto's weak, please give me a break. He wasn't even trying to fight, just trying to get around A's blockade.
I just hoped A:mad: got Naruto's blow...had B not intervened...
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06-06-2011, 06:39 AM
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Academy Student
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
Or maybe...A is one of the Zetsu clones, but we saw how his flashback came to him, right?...or was it B's?
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06-06-2011, 09:33 AM
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Nomad
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
 Originally Posted by chakan
Kishi just drew Lee on rampage:
Just wait and kish will do the same thing for Kakashi.
...omg ahaha. I was expecting a joke, but not that... lol
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06-06-2011, 12:03 PM
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Senior Member
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
Now with this A and B thing we don't want to see some chapters wasted. Just want to see some big time action.
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06-06-2011, 04:35 PM
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Bboy ninja
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
This is my first post here. So, sup everyone?
also, I don't know if it's been mentioned here.....but what's going to happen with Itachi?
Spoilers below....(maybe)
Last I knew, Sasuke wanted Itachi's eyes for the EMS.....so, since Itachi has Sharingan, does he have Sasuke's eyes now in the manga? Are they EMS?
I just find that I'm super curious about this....
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06-06-2011, 05:31 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
 Originally Posted by bboyhurricane
This is my first post here. So, sup everyone?
also, I don't know if it's been mentioned here.....but what's going to happen with Itachi?
Spoilers below....(maybe)
Last I knew, Sasuke wanted Itachi's eyes for the EMS.....so, since Itachi has Sharingan, does he have Sasuke's eyes now in the manga? Are they EMS?
I just find that I'm super curious about this....
comon man. how would itachi have sasukes eyes?
he died with his own eyes, and he was edo'd with his own eyes.
you think they summoned itachi and he had no eyes? and they just popped in sasukes old ones? thats ignorant.
the fact that sasuke has the same set of eyes as itachi is irrelevant.
itachi is a SUMMONED SOUL in A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEAD PERSONS BODY. His eyes were magically recreated by the summoning just like the rest of his body. Itachi's hair, face, eyes, arms, and everything else are all just part of the summon, they are not the originals. The original Itachi Body is still dead somewhere, prolly in a temple or buried in the ground somewhere.
the dead itachi buried somewhere is eyeless, as Sasuke has the real set.
Itachi that was summoned is just his soul taking on his previous state, not the real body/eyes/etc. are you getting this dude? i sure hope so.
And it has not been mentioned what is going to happen with itachi.
even itachi and nagato dont know what is going to happen with them.
they are as clueless as us at this point. kabuto is holding them back for some reason. I personally think its to confront sasuke, but who knows?
sasuke accepted itachis eyes and they have been implanted but he is still recovering and has not been seen with them yet. many people are waiting anxiously for this to be shown. we dont know what was done with sasukes eyes. maybe madara put them in a jar and gave em to sasuke to put on his dresser. or maybe madara will keep them and use them at sometime for his own personal desires. sasukes eyes are very valuable, they have all the abilities that he had shown prior to having them removed. madara could put one of sasukes eyes in and have control of tsukiyomi or even amterasu. sorry for mispellings and grammar/punctuation. im at work and dont have time nor the care to fix it.
this episode was awesome. i cant wait for the next. go NARUTO!
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06-06-2011, 06:44 PM
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Bboy ninja
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
^ ok....ok.
It was just a question, sheesh.
I am now curious about how effective Kabuto's jutsu is.
Obviously they all still have their memories from their lives.
Itachi may be around to help Naruto with Sasuke if he's strong enough to resist Kabuto.
Also, I wanna hear peoples theories on Madara's plan...he's got eight-tails and nine-tailes chakra. With the tentacle Sasuke gave him, and the Kyuubi brothers.....
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06-06-2011, 08:13 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
 Originally Posted by Bluedevil
While in war you want to have many different options at your disposal and one always hopes for the best; sometimes that is not always the situation. Let me give you another example of what I mean by death ground. D-day invasion on the Normandy coast. Your listening to the bullets wizing and clinking on the side of your boat as you pull up to the shore. The gate falls down, half of your platoon falls, do you stay and get mowed down by German machine guns or do you leave and storm the beach, through the barbed wire, through the land mines, and up the cliffs past the machine guns and tanks? These are the logical options, you could try and swim back to england but, you would be killed in the process, you could run along side the coast, and be captured or blown up by a mine. But this is the meaning of death ground. Limited logical options, extremely dire situation where your life is literally on the line. The naruto universe is on death ground. Now this is what the Rakage is up against.
Here is a hot headed ninja that just so happens to be a weapon of mass destruction from a foreign land. He has escaped your protection even though he knows the situation of the war. If the enemy gets a hold of this ninja then it means the end of the world as we know it. You have giving him many different ways of keeping this ninja calm from the Intel that you have received on this ninja.
You have tried "tricking him" by giving him a top-secret mission. You have attempted to distract him by having him train how to control the 9-tails. You have even attempted talking to him directly about the situation, twice now, and all of these ways have failed.
Now after all of that he is still making a break for it the only real option left that they haven't tried is force and though I fundamentally disagree on murdering an innocent person; if it meant sparing the world or having it all end, I am not going to lie I would probably do it. 
As for your idea with uniting with naruto and putting all your faith in him, I think this is going to happen anyway, but this is a HUGE gamble for the shnobi alliance. I mean all tobi has to do is create a diversion and teleport away with both b and naruto and this war for the right of free will and to the right not be enslaved nor destroyed is lost.
I will concede something to you though; It would be very unwise to kill naruto. Even if it buys you a short time before the 9 tails is back you are in a worse off position because it is unsealed and is running wild for anybody to take it. At least with naruto you have a somewhat reasonable and powerful ninja that you could potentially still utilize if he was properly trained to take orders.
Agreed !! (I wouldnt know what to do in that situation which is why I didnt join the army) lol killing and fighting isnt my thing but thinking outside the box is what I do and many people think in the box... Example Raikage... If hes so strong fight Madara dont fight the one who your protecting.. Aka DUM! :flaw:
Things would of been Different if they would of told him the truth from the start. Lieing ? Then trying to cover up the Lie creates more Confusion.
If they would of told the Truth from the start and made it seemed as if he needed to train to get stronger for the war things would of turned out differently.
So honestly they cause all this on themselfs and now Naruto loose and not going to stop untill he gets his fists in that war. So right now the only thing they can do is support him. save there Chakra for the war and hope for the best.
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06-06-2011, 09:44 PM
#237
Datte Bayo !
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
This chap Was good but not great. Raikage. . . . . . This Chap made me not like him at all. His attitude really does reflect why Kumo was kidnapping people. iKno Failure isnt a option but iT's necessary to get better. Kumo Nin are pigs.
But moving on, iThink Tsunade could have done More than just . . . . . . *Silence. But over all it was good got to learn more about the cloud. Which is getting annoying. Lets move on to the Sand, Mist, N Stone villages, Learn more about them. :flaw:
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06-06-2011, 10:31 PM
#238
Kage of Toronto
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
do you guys think that the unseen first day battles of the war will be completely animators own idea's?....
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06-06-2011, 11:29 PM
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Hokage
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
Naruto was about to kill raikage... not the other way around.
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06-07-2011, 12:32 AM
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Senior Member
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
 Originally Posted by Toronto
do you guys think that the unseen first day battles of the war will be completely animators own idea's?....
Ya it seems the battles are saved for the anime but I'm sure Kishi will be supervising and making sure everything goes great.
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06-07-2011, 12:33 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
 Originally Posted by chakan
Kishi just drew Lee on rampage:
:rofl: if only.......
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06-07-2011, 01:54 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
Don,t you readers realize what the Raikage said to Naruto on page 9, that Minato failed to deal with the nine tails and that Naruto is doing the same mistake because he is avoiding the nine tails. So i imagine that Raikage knows a lot about the demon and knows that he can stop Naruto right now at that level but knows also that if Naruto really take the time to listen and have a good discution with the Nine tails, maybe then Naruto will be at a level to stop the war.
What do you guys think
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06-07-2011, 03:06 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
I think jammers, that you probably don't know how to read if you think that naruto is avoiding de kyubii, he just spoke with it in the last chapter, and said something like this "we will do something about your hatred" in other words he cares and want to tame the nine tails completely
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06-07-2011, 12:54 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
 Originally Posted by naninha
I think jammers, that you probably don't know how to read if you think that naruto is avoiding de kyubii, he just spoke with it in the last chapter, and said something like this "we will do something about your hatred" in other words he cares and want to tame the nine tails completely
I do understand that but maybe there is more to do with the Nine tails power than just tame the nine tails. Even the Nine Tails was telling Naruto that he is being foolish to think that he can stop the war by himself
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06-07-2011, 02:09 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
Man its Raikage vs. naruto now!
I hope Naruto won't try to overdo it. He still have more villains to take on like Zetsus before he can face Sasuke and probably Madara.
I think probably but not likely, he'll still have to deal with the Raikage. By that Naruto will be totally drained. Knowing Naruto he will still jump at his chance to rescue anyone. If that happens, his recklesness may just catch up to him.
It would be nice to see Naruto acquire more of his fathers techniques, but its unlikely. The only ones who would be able to teach him those techniques is either Jiraiya or Kakashi (one being dead, the other seems to have his hands full at the time being).
from the last interview Kishi had (last year), he stated that there are two shinobi right now that surpasses Minato. But i just dont see it. (hope one of them is Naruto) Minato seems to be the baddest ever! Well so far anyway.
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Last edited by Maina Deah; 06-07-2011 at 02:16 PM.
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06-07-2011, 02:46 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
Maybe the other one is Madara( assuming one is Naruto)
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06-07-2011, 07:55 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
 Originally Posted by jammersnaruto
Don,t you readers realize what the Raikage said to Naruto on page 9, that Minato failed to deal with the nine tails and that Naruto is doing the same mistake because he is avoiding the nine tails. So i imagine that Raikage knows a lot about the demon and knows that he can stop Naruto right now at that level but knows also that if Naruto really take the time to listen and have a good discution with the Nine tails, maybe then Naruto will be at a level to stop the war.
What do you guys think
Naw Raikage is just acting on inpluse and taking matter in his own hands. Same as Naruto. Narutos going to do with he wants to do, rather then the 4 of them fighting they should come up with a solution to assist Naruto.
Naruto isnt going to Listen he wants to assist his Fellow ninjas and instead of them putting faith in him there turning this war into a even bigger mess.
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06-07-2011, 08:11 PM
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Wisdom and Courage
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
My prediction is Naruto put it all together against the Reikage and defeat Him to prove that nobody is in His league, We may see the beginning of Fox/Sage mode and a super beast rasengan bomb, the ultimate jutsu.
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06-07-2011, 08:50 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
you guys crack me up wiht your "Theories"
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06-07-2011, 09:52 PM
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Academy Student
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions
I like this but i can wait till it get better, the flash back make me feel like they are taking long tho, im kind new can anyone hlp me out?
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