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      Quote Originally Posted by aKron View Post
      Wow.. Naruto > One piece. I thought these were naruto forums not advertising other manga's; that nobody likes. And face it, why would kishi steal a "twist" from another author? You really can't; implausible. Different stories offer different twists, and can twist in any direction. C'mon.. Kishi stealing someone else's plot(twist)? Unreal. If you like One Piece so much to say that, then go moderate "OnePieceBase.net". ~awaiting response~.



      -Good chapter. I deffinitly think that Naruto wasn't even trying to overpower him in the first clash. Naruto's face was astudious as Raikage's face was 100% trying. Naruto is just as fast as raikage.

      -The interesting key to this chapter is when they were going to clash the second time; how naruto was making the hand sign, and as someone said earlier, how Naruto wasn't going to move out of the way; his face brimming with confidence. C'mon, Raikage just shot all Naruto's dreams down by badmouthing his father, Naruto would of lived, surpassed raikage's speed, overpower him, and talk no jutsu him after, lol. Naruto was clearly serious the second time. Someone mentioned shadow clone, but i think it was going to be a Tailed beast bomb, or some crazy speed.


      Who else lol'd at Raikage telling Naruto he will kill him.. with such ease? The next chapter will disclose the flashback and finish their fight(which will last 5 episodes over anime, lol).
      Stop being so mad, One Piece is awesome, compared to that kids show bleach, or should i say Barbie.
       
           

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      I'm sick of Naruto "Talk No Jutsu" and I'm glad Raikage is the man who doesn't care about what Naruto says, then Bee interferes why wouldn't he I mean everything is getting "Talk No Jutsu " here and that Tsunade I knew she would act that way I hope Raikage gives Naruto a beat, because I WANT TO SEE A REAL FIGHT!
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by SasukeMangekyo5 View Post
      I'm sick of Naruto "Talk No Jutsu" and I'm glad Raikage is the man who doesn't care about what Naruto says, then Bee interferes why wouldn't he I mean everything is getting "Talk No Jutsu " here and that Tsunade I knew she would act that way I hope Raikage gives Naruto a beat, because I WANT TO SEE A REAL FIGHT!
      Cmon do you want them to seal their lips and just beat everything around???? of course they need to show their emotions and speak their purpose, how could you justify your actions without speaking????????

      And speaking of raikage, i think he holds a grudge against minato, like minato might have kicked his butt and now he wants revenge:D but i didn't expect him to be this much biased....
      I don't expect a fight between bee and raikage, bee might hold him off while naruto escapes....

      if there is a fight then whats tsunade going to do ?? enter the fray or hamper the fray???

      And what will happen to the poor HQ if they found out that their generals and jinchuurikis are beating the pulp out of each other:flaw:
       
           
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      Im not one to complain, hell i never have but:
      me reading the chapter:
      Manga: naruto vs raikage n B's interference
      ME: 8D YES YES YES YES YEEEEEEEEEEES
      Manga: *Flashback*
      ME: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO D:
      Manga: something about bee n A
      ME: yay?

      I'd be pissed if Raikage killed bee next chapter
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by aKron View Post
      Wow.. Naruto > One piece. I thought these were naruto forums not advertising other manga's; that nobody likes. And face it, why would kishi steal a "twist" from another author? You really can't; implausible. Different stories offer different twists, and can twist in any direction. C'mon.. Kishi stealing someone else's plot(twist)? Unreal. If you like One Piece so much to say that, then go moderate "OnePieceBase.net". ~awaiting response~.....
      You know learning isn't stealing, right? Anyways, I like that Naruto isn't all fighting like DB was. The Naruto universe got so much potential, so why not twist them and do some flashbacks to when ppl was young?! I love the stories alot!
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by narutodrama
      lol he used the hand signs for shadow clones, wth wouldnt naruto get killed that way?
      Lets get serious. If you're implying that the hand seal Naruto was making was for shadow clones, then you must not recall the convo eight-tails had with Naruto...

      Remember if he uses shadow clones in the kyuubi cloak form then his chakra is drained quicker???
       
           

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      it wuss sexy!! haha till they started 2 show flashbaks, like i kno they have 2 but y now??? cant they show it like after the war?? xD
       
           

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      I'd be pissed if Raikage killed bee next chapter
      Nah I don't think Raikage is as strong as he believes he is. Bee has the Eight-Tails on his side so I'm pretty sure he would manage against A. Nice twist of A and Bee not being blood brothers and its cool to see how they perfected the Lariat technique.
       
           

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      Decent Chapter, at least it gave us more information about the 4th hokage!
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Danzou View Post
      Stop being so mad, One Piece is awesome, compared to that kids show bleach, or should i say Barbie.
      32xi / 62pqi / xT = Bleach?

      I hope you do know that bleach was never mentioned. Everything i said was right, meaningful, and to the point. Please... I smell you from my house.

      -This is a pretty decent chapter, the flashback was more relevant than most flashbacks if kishi is really going to far to explain the history of them
       
           
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      Mini Bee was soo cute
       
           

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      the raikage has made it to the top of my shit list
       
           

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      No guys don't think badly of A it is true that this war is to protect Naruto and Bee but if there was no choice but to kill them they must be killed, better than getting caught by Madara and after that all the world will be doomed so what do think Naruto and Bee or the world, I wasn't surprised when raikage said he'd kill naruto or bee because for someone who could through his life and hand away in a fight he wouldn't mind killing any one, I mean this characteristic of him must be known by any one who is reading the manga.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sharingan Itachi View Post
      No guys don't think badly of A it is true that this war is to protect Naruto and Bee but if there was no choice but to kill them they must be killed, better than getting caught by Madara and after that all the world will be doomed so what do think Naruto and Bee or the world, I wasn't surprised when raikage said he'd kill naruto or bee because for someone who could through his life and hand away in a fight he wouldn't mind killing any one, I mean this characteristic of him must be known by any one who is reading the manga.
      I agree. I'm sure most of; if not all of the people that post here have not been in or have even remotely experienced war. I am from a military family and have lost many family members. All I got to say on this subject is this...many bad things happen in war, but there is such a thing as necessary evil. Sun Tzu called it death ground. Let me explain, lets just say for instance that your entire family is in danger and there is no chance of escape. Would you murder your for self preservation of you and your family OR would you die? The choice is just that simple. I can both understand and respect what A is attempting to do with out condoning nor condemning.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by aKron View Post
      Wow.. Naruto > One piece. I thought these were naruto forums not advertising other manga's; that nobody likes. And face it, why would kishi steal a "twist" from another author? You really can't; implausible. Different stories offer different twists, and can twist in any direction. C'mon.. Kishi stealing someone else's plot(twist)? Unreal. If you like One Piece so much to say that, then go moderate "OnePieceBase.net". ~awaiting response~.
      Mugiwara is more than a moderator, he has just about everyone's respect here.

      I doubt he feels the need to answer to some NOOB complaining. :flaw:

      Go ahead and wait for his response, but don't get your hopes up.... Because no one cares.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by BarBoBot View Post
      Mugiwara is more than a moderator, he has just about everyone's respect here.

      I doubt he feels the need to answer to some NOOB complaining. :flaw:

      Go ahead and wait for his response, but don't get your hopes up.... Because no one cares.
      He doesn't have to answer. Also, you didn't read what he said before, clearly. He's trying to say kishi is stealing 'twists' from one piece? What story doesnt have twists? How else are we going to get hooked even more? Kishi is showing the twist because Naruto is respectably supposed to kill madara. They are showing Raikage could hold his own against madara.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mugiwara View Post
      Kishimoto is learning a trick or two about twists in the storyline from the author of One Piece.
      Here is his exact quote.

      Did he say kishi stole anything?

      No, he said kishi learned a storyline trick.

      No one is born with an inherent knowledge of writing. It's learned. Every person who ever wrote anything LEARNED how to write. Including you. You effin genius.
       
           

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      I though it was a good chapter cool to see that Naruto can use his speed at will & like Tsunade said Naruto must be very fast if he can keep up with the Raikage. The Raikage is an ass for calling out Minato like that. & I think he's lucky that Bee stopped him because Naruto was about to do something.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by BarBoBot View Post
      Here is his exact quote.

      Did he say kishi stole anything?

      No, he said kishi learned a storyline trick.

      No one is born with an inherent knowledge of writing. It's learned. Every person who ever wrote anything LEARNED how to write. Including you. You effin genius.
      1. good job finding his quote
      2. yep he did
      3. yep he did
      4. Yep, nobody is born with an inherent knowledge to write(ok?)Or your saying something irrelovent; nobody is born with godlike writing skills.. Duh.Kishi doesn't learn or steal anything from anyone. Naruto is its own series; Does it look like its not to you?
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by aKron View Post
      Wow.. Naruto > One piece. I thought these were naruto forums not advertising other manga's; that nobody likes. And face it, why would kishi steal a "twist" from another author? You really can't; implausible. Different stories offer different twists, and can twist in any direction. C'mon.. Kishi stealing someone else's plot(twist)? Unreal. If you like One Piece so much to say that, then go moderate "OnePieceBase.net". ~awaiting response~.
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      I like One Piece, so your first argument is invalid, as you said nobody likes it, and I know plenty of people that like it.

      Kishimoto used the same twist as Oda has used in his manga.
      Two characters are brothers, but then it's revealed that they are not related by blood, sound familiar?

      Two different stories offer the same twist, and twisted in the same direction.

      I never said Kishi stole anything, I learned something from Oda, in other words, used the same twist. I don't see how theft has anything to do with this.

      Create the site and I'll moderate it.


      Quote Originally Posted by aKron View Post
      1. good job finding his quote
      2. yep he did
      3. yep he did
      4. Yep, nobody is born with an inherent knowledge to write(ok?)Or your saying something irrelovent; nobody is born with godlike writing skills.. Duh.Kishi doesn't learn or steal anything from anyone. Naruto is its own series; Does it look like its not to you?
      2: Clearly you have problems reading. I said: "Kishimoto is learning a trick or two about twists in the storyline from the author of One Piece."

      Learning a trick. I don't see how anybody in their right mind are able to get "theft" out of that sentence.

      4: So you're basically saying if Kishi lived in a cave ever since he was born, he would be able to draw and write as well as he can now? He obviously learned to write when he was going to school. He didn't learn or steal anything from anyone? Please.. Kishimoto has used many elements from other manga and the japanese mythology in particular. He has self said that he has used elements from Dragonball and used that series as an inspiration.
      He has also used the same "Sarutobi Sasuke" who is 3rd Hokages father or grandfather, I don't remember. Sarutobi Sasuke is the name of a real life ninja.


      Quote Originally Posted by aKron View Post
      He doesn't have to answer. Also, you didn't read what he said before, clearly. He's trying to say kishi is stealing 'twists' from one piece? What story doesnt have twists? How else are we going to get hooked even more? Kishi is showing the twist because Naruto is respectably supposed to kill madara. They are showing Raikage could hold his own against madara.
      I don't think you read that very clearly either. My exact sentence was "Kishimoto is learning a trick or two about twists in the storyline from the author of One Piece." I don't see how you got "trying to say kishi is stealing 'twists'.

      If you don't know what twist I'm talking about, I'm talking about Bee and A being introduced as brothers, but it is later revealed that they are not related by blood. Same as Luffy and Ace in One Piece, both with are introduced as brothers, but it is later revealed that they are not related by blood either.

      Looks like the same twist to me.

      I'm not saying that the Author of One Piece never used anything someone else has used in their manga before, he has gotten his influence from someone else as well and gotten lots of ideas from other mangaka. All mangaka do it, they have a idol, a favorite manga, and they start their manga after being inspired by it and use same elements as many other mangaka have used. So I don't see why you're getting so worked up for because I said Kishimoto used the same twist as Oda has used in his manga before.

      Let me ask you something, you say that nobody likes One Piece. I'd like to know where you got that lovely fact?
      I'm pretty sure it's not from the Shonen Jump website, or wikipedia, because they say that One Piece is the most favorite and most sold manga in Japan.

      One last thing:

      One Piece >>> Naruto
      And you can't say "Naruto > One Piece" because you've never seen the story till current manga chapter. So that statement of yours holds no ground.
       
           
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      -___- I thought Bee and A were actual brothers...it sucks that they aren't.

      I thought the flashback was sort of pointless...And the whole 'I'm going to kill you now' from A seemed...over dramatic in my view. >___>
      But then again, he is impulsive.
      Can't wait to see how Naruto breaks through, and what he'll come across first when he goes into the battlefield. ~
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by cyborg View Post
      He punched, naruto went flying backwards, that's beating however much you sugar coat it. Somebody needs to step in and put A in his place. Before Madara does.
      We have A who has the mindset to kill Naruto...

      Then we have Naruto who just wants to get around A.

      Naruto BLOCKED the punch, and for the most part, appears uninjured.

      They didn't even start fighting, they are just sizing each other up.

      On top of that, who really gives a shit if A and Bee are really brothers. "I'm sure their is gonna be a an interesting plot twist in the future off of this!!!!". Seriously, they have different abilities for the most part and different personalities. It's not as though them actually being brothers is important.
       
           
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      1. good job finding his quote
      2. yep he did
      3. yep he did
      4. Yep, nobody is born with an inherent knowledge to write(ok?)Or your saying something irrelovent; nobody is born with godlike writing skills.. Duh.Kishi doesn't learn or steal anything from anyone. Naruto is its own series; Does it look like its not to you?
      Naruto is based from japanese mythology (atleast some of it) so kishi does borrow ideas from other sources and he has also used a little of dbz
      getting influenced from other successful mangas isn't something kishi is above
      i dont read one piece so i dont know how good the twists are, but its possible that kishi liked the twists in the storyline of one piece and decided to try it out
      many manga writers are influenced by others

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      nice chapter, i liked mini bee, he was cute i thought they were blood related
      im not a big fan of minato but i didnt enjoy A trash-talking about him
      i think A is being more realistic than Naruto who apparently thinks he can rush out there and stop the cycle of hate. if naruto won't cooperate, why should they put the world in danger for his ideas....
       
           

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      Will you moderate my site if i create one? lol
       
           

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      Cmon do you want them to seal their lips and just beat everything around???? of course they need to show their emotions and speak their purpose, how could you justify your actions without speaking????????

      And speaking of raikage, i think he holds a grudge against minato, like minato might have kicked his butt and now he wants revenge:D but i didn't expect him to be this much biased....
      I don't expect a fight between bee and raikage, bee might hold him off while naruto escapes....

      if there is a fight then whats tsunade going to do ?? enter the fray or hamper the fray???

      And what will happen to the poor HQ if they found out that their generals and jinchuurikis are beating the pulp out of each other:flaw:
      That is completely true he is just jealous of the 4th hokage just cause he wan't as strong as him and tries to insult him after he is dead. It also reflects in way how Kumogakure has way too much pride and is also jealous of Konoha, which is also shown when they try to take hinata and naruto's mom just to gain power.
       
           

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