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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedevil View Post
    I agree. I'm sure most of; if not all of the people that post here have not been in or have even remotely experienced war. I am from a military family and have lost many family members. All I got to say on this subject is this...many bad things happen in war, but there is such a thing as necessary evil. Sun Tzu called it death ground. Let me explain, lets just say for instance that your entire family is in danger and there is no chance of escape. Would you murder your for self preservation of you and your family OR would you die? The choice is just that simple. I can both understand and respect what A is attempting to do with out condoning nor condemning.
    There is another Choice... Pray and Hope for the best. I wouldnt kill myself nor anyone I love. I would stand my grown and hope for the best :D

    Honestly I Agree with Raikage trying to stop Naruto from going but killing him is plain on Dum. Hes not Thinking about no one but trying to win the war. Its not all about winning, sometimes there are other Routes you can take to escape danger.

    a more wise Decision would be to try and Calm Naruto Down. Well Being that naruto is how he is allow him to go and Keep Bee or think of another way without killing him. Thats not going to solve anything just more Pain....

    He saved them once which means he can save them again. they need more Faith in him and things would work out for the best.

    They can all fight side by side with him and make sure things work out since all 4 of them are the strongest ?!!??
     
         

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    One of the best chapter in ages. Made me remember why I read the manga in the first place, instead of just watching the anime. Can't wait for the next one!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SakurasBabyDaddy View Post
    There is another Choice... Pray and Hope for the best. I wouldnt kill myself nor anyone I love. I would stand my grown and hope for the best :D

    Honestly I Agree with Raikage trying to stop Naruto from going but killing him is plain on Dum. Hes not Thinking about no one but trying to win the war. Its not all about winning, sometimes there are other Routes you can take to escape danger.

    a more wise Decision would be to try and Calm Naruto Down. Well Being that naruto is how he is allow him to go and Keep Bee or think of another way without killing him. Thats not going to solve anything just more Pain....

    He saved them once which means he can save them again. they need more Faith in him and things would work out for the best.

    They can all fight side by side with him and make sure things work out since all 4 of them are the strongest ?!!??
    While in war you want to have many different options at your disposal and one always hopes for the best; sometimes that is not always the situation. Let me give you another example of what I mean by death ground. D-day invasion on the Normandy coast. Your liste
     
         
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    wow wow wow.. wait a sec. ok so ppl are understimating naruto. i understand that that lightning freek is strong. but he said that naruto's father was also strong and faster. did u guys forget the first time naruto turned kyubbi mode, what happend? oh yea thats right, he teleported like his dad. and naruto has sage mode. and naruto has the rest of the kyubbi chakra. 50% from his dad from the beggining . and the rest was inside the kyuby basiclly the red stuff. so now he has 100% of the kyuubi at his disposal. and hes confident enough to talk back to it.

    if that not enough, how about this. raikage has tailed beast chakra right. well the list goes like this , madara is trying to get the strongest one right number 10 so in reality naruto is the strongest of all tailed beasts right now. which means hes stronger than raikage. a loong time ago when the beast attacked the villiage not even minato coud hold it down , it faught a whole villiage and now that distructive power is in naruto. naruto's dad was a seal specialist. naruto was about to make a seal, and dont try that bullshit and tell me that it was a shadow clone, kuz he cant in that stage matter of fact he cant not even in sage mode, he barley has 2 or 3. and he has the wind rasangan. and he can make the tailed beast bomb with his FREGGIN HAND. he sensed war on a tutle island 3 billion miles away. oh yea raikage is missing and arm. and i dont care how much chakra he has naruto has almost infinit chaka. he can turn sage mode make a clone and tell the clone to go and collect energy while the original is fighting , then poof the shadow clone and there u have it back to normal.


    and his dad was taught by pervy sage and became hokage, kakashi was sopposed to be hokage , even pervy sage was sopposed to be hokage instead of tsunade. he was taught by pervy sages master , his dad was super and he has the ultimate beast inside him .

    and u wanna tell me some electric guy with one arm can so easily defeat naruto.

    plus while theyr arguing ( a and b) where is naruto? hes not the type to lsn remeber.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

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    There is another Choice... Pray and Hope for the best. I wouldnt kill myself nor anyone I love. I would stand my grown and hope for the best :D

    Honestly I Agree with Raikage trying to stop Naruto from going but killing him is plain on Dum. Hes not Thinking about no one but trying to win the war. Its not all about winning, sometimes there are other Routes you can take to escape danger.

    a more wise Decision would be to try and Calm Naruto Down. Well Being that naruto is how he is allow him to go and Keep Bee or think of another way without killing him. Thats not going to solve anything just more Pain....

    He saved them once which means he can save them again. they need more Faith in him and things would work out for the best.

    They can all fight side by side with him and make sure things work out since all 4 of them are the strongest ?!!??
    While in war you want to have many different options at your disposal and one always hopes for the best; sometimes that is not always the situation. Let me give you another example of what I mean by death ground. D-day invasion on the Normandy coast. Your listening to the bullets wizing and clinking on the side of your boat as you pull up to the shore. The gate falls down, half of your platoon falls, do you stay and get mowed down by German machine guns or do you leave and storm the beach, through the barbed wire, through the land mines, and up the cliffs past the machine guns and tanks? These are the logical options, you could try and swim back to england but, you would be killed in the process, you could run along side the coast, and be captured or blown up by a mine. But this is the meaning of death ground. Limited logical options, extremely dire situation where your life is literally on the line. The naruto universe is on death ground. Now this is what the Rakage is up against.

    Here is a hot headed ninja that just so happens to be a weapon of mass destruction from a foreign land. He has escaped your protection even though he knows the situation of the war. If the enemy gets a hold of this ninja then it means the end of the world as we know it. You have giving him many different ways of keeping this ninja calm from the Intel that you have received on this ninja.
    You have tried "tricking him" by giving him a top-secret mission. You have attempted to distract him by having him train how to control the 9-tails. You have even attempted talking to him directly about the situation, twice now, and all of these ways have failed.
    Now after all of that he is still making a break for it the only real option left that they haven't tried is force and though I fundamentally disagree on murdering an innocent person; if it meant sparing the world or having it all end, I am not going to lie I would probably do it.
    As for your idea with uniting with naruto and putting all your faith in him, I think this is going to happen anyway, but this is a HUGE gamble for the shnobi alliance. I mean all tobi has to do is create a diversion and teleport away with both b and naruto and this war for the right of free will and to the right not be enslaved nor destroyed is lost.

    I will concede something to you though; It would be very unwise to kill naruto. Even if it buys you a short time before the 9 tails is back you are in a worse off position because it is unsealed and is running wild for anybody to take it. At least with naruto you have a somewhat reasonable and powerful ninja that you could potentially still utilize if he was properly trained to take orders.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    sry for the fist post my comp. did something weird when posting
     
         

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    Pure Epicness
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by diablo728 View Post
    Minato faster than A huh?
    that is kinda hard to believe when all minato does is throw kunies
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    I think the chapter sucked. Gave a bunch of "clues" with no actual story. The only thing I did like about it was the very first color page. Anyone notice how Hinata had the biggest boobs compared to the rest of the girls. Also it showed Shino's face well almost his whole face minus the glasses.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    A can match chakra of a tailed beast but that is not to say that he can match that of the 9 tails . all they said was he is at tailed beast levels he cant maych the nine tails or the cloud would have him by now
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    naruto not use 100% power,if he used fox + minato + itachi power it will be more powerfull ever exist
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by diablo728 View Post
    He didn't even get a solid it. That's like saying in a boxing match the first guy to throw a punch is beating the other.
    agreed,
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    Isn't Naruto using up to much of the Kyuubi chakra? By the time he finally enters the battlefield he will collapse out of exhaustion. Unless A can convince him to train some more so he can learn some new jutsus to give him a better fighting chance but I doubt it.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by tsukuyomi sharingan View Post
    nice chapter and dame naruto is fast he matched with 'A' i think naruto now is faster than sasuke.,.,,.,, ^_________^
    yes.. agree w5th 4.. b4t, sas42e has the s4san66.. th5s 0ean, there w533 be an awes60e 0atch between sas42e n nar4t6 3ater.. can't wa5t..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dupa View Post
    Isn't Naruto using up to much of the Kyuubi chakra? By the time he finally enters the battlefield he will collapse out of exhaustion. Unless A can convince him to train some more so he can learn some new jutsus to give him a better fighting chance but I doubt it.
    Ya that's true and if so then he will get his ass kicked by Madara and Kabuto.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by myams1995 View Post
    yes.. agree w5th 4.. b4t, sas42e has the s4san66.. th5s 0ean, there w533 be an awes60e 0atch between sas42e n nar4t6 3ater.. can't wa5t..
    dude....wtf
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    ok chapter some parts were interesting it just wasnt long enough.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiwara View Post
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    I like One Piece, so your first argument is invalid, as you said nobody likes it, and I know plenty of people that like it.

    Kishimoto used the same twist as Oda has used in his manga.
    Two characters are brothers, but then it's revealed that they are not related by blood, sound familiar?

    Two different stories offer the same twist, and twisted in the same direction.

    I never said Kishi stole anything, I learned something from Oda, in other words, used the same twist. I don't see how theft has anything to do with this.

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    2: Clearly you have problems reading. I said: "Kishimoto is learning a trick or two about twists in the storyline from the author of One Piece."

    Learning a trick. I don't see how anybody in their right mind are able to get "theft" out of that sentence.

    4: So you're basically saying if Kishi lived in a cave ever since he was born, he would be able to draw and write as well as he can now? He obviously learned to write when he was going to school. He didn't learn or steal anything from anyone? Please.. Kishimoto has used many elements from other manga and the japanese mythology in particular. He has self said that he has used elements from Dragonball and used that series as an inspiration.
    He has also used the same "Sarutobi Sasuke" who is 3rd Hokages father or grandfather, I don't remember. Sarutobi Sasuke is the name of a real life ninja.



    I don't think you read that very clearly either. My exact sentence was "Kishimoto is learning a trick or two about twists in the storyline from the author of One Piece." I don't see how you got "trying to say kishi is stealing 'twists'.

    If you don't know what twist I'm talking about, I'm talking about Bee and A being introduced as brothers, but it is later revealed that they are not related by blood. Same as Luffy and Ace in One Piece, both with are introduced as brothers, but it is later revealed that they are not related by blood either.

    Looks like the same twist to me.

    I'm not saying that the Author of One Piece never used anything someone else has used in their manga before, he has gotten his influence from someone else as well and gotten lots of ideas from other mangaka. All mangaka do it, they have a idol, a favorite manga, and they start their manga after being inspired by it and use same elements as many other mangaka have used. So I don't see why you're getting so worked up for because I said Kishimoto used the same twist as Oda has used in his manga before.

    Let me ask you something, you say that nobody likes One Piece. I'd like to know where you got that lovely fact?
    I'm pretty sure it's not from the Shonen Jump website, or wikipedia, because they say that One Piece is the most favorite and most sold manga in Japan.

    One last thing:

    One Piece >>> Naruto
    And you can't say "Naruto > One Piece" because you've never seen the story till current manga chapter. So that statement of yours holds no ground.
    Yur probably right about the twist in naruto being the same as OP, but just mentioning that on a NB thread makes yu very much look like a OP nuts hugger...just saying...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    That was like the first chapter in a while that I actually thought was interesting.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 541 Discussion and 542 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by leezagboola View Post
    That was like the first chapter in a while that I actually thought was interesting.
    Yes the first chapter in quite a while which was interesting.
     
         

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