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    Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Well i would say obito gets beaten pretty easily since thats what happened when he faced minato. Lets just say he has a better chance against the 2nd which i doubt but kakashi puts up a pretty good fight but minato and tobirama take this
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Minato and tobirama win this....! it's almost cannon...! ftg vs kamui and ftg beats it....
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Team 2 without a doubt.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Team 2 low-mid diff. FTG is the perfect counter to Kamui.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Minato barely evaded Obito's Kamui with Hiraishin and Kakashi's Kamui space-time barrier on humans is faster than Obito's CQC warping. I don't know, everyone here is really strong and skilled and they make some wonderful duos. I'd go with Kakashi and Obito because they're more hyped as the stronger duo.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Minato and Tobirama win this mid diff

    -Their dual FTG allows them to evade all of kamui attempts from team 1 with ease,,, as Minatoa and Tobirama would always outspeed the kamui duo,,,,, everytime they attack,,,

    -Kakashi is not doing much here at all,, he lacks the reaction feats to react too Minato/Tobiramas speed,,, and his kamui warps are evaded quite easily,,,,, the FTG duo can pursue him at CQC and kakashi would end up getting marked,, thus allowing the duo to end him in multiple ways,,,

    -Obitos short range kamui isnt helpful at all here,, not only that but through KB,,, dual FTG,,, on top of the duo having intel on his kamui mechanics,, makes this a whole lot easier for them,,, this obito would still lose to Minato, and with Tobirama here the FTG duo make quick work of him,,,,,

    -FTG is the perfect counter for Kamui as said above since its faster than it,, and would allow the user to mark the opponent after the onslaught
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Minato one shots Obito since he's marked
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    damn i though this was going to be a pretty even matchup
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Team Tobirama wins
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Even if Kamui is superior to FTG, it is still Kamui's kryptonite.

    Team 2 wins. They're the perfect counter to Kamui.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Team 1 mid diff.

    Neither Minato or Tobirama even have the reactions to indicate they can react to Kakashi's version of Kamui. Kakashi's Kamui was shown to be faster than Obito's eye movement, summoning Jutsu, and faster than 8th gate Gai. Tobirama and Minato are not going to teleport when they don't know what hit them and when it is. One of them gets wrapped easily. Obito will be there to increase Kakashi's chances.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri Rascalov View Post
    Team 1 mid diff.

    Neither Minato or Tobirama even have the reactions to indicate they can react to Kakashi's version of Kamui. Kakashi's Kamui was shown to be faster than Obito's eye movement, summoning Jutsu, and faster than 8th gate Gai. Tobirama and Minato are not going to teleport when they don't know what hit them and when it is. One of them gets wrapped easily. Obito will be there to increase Kakashi's chances.
    They can sense chakra build-up.

    OT: Team two mid-difficulty.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Minato and Tobirama take this med diff.........
    Minato take Obito with extreme high diff.......
    Tobirama take Kakashi neg diff.......
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Versta View Post
    They can sense chakra build-up.

    OT: Team two mid-difficulty.
    Except, Minato and Tobirama have to knead Chakra in order to so, and they cannot do that while fighting [X] [X].
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Obit and Kakashi mid-high diff
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri Rascalov View Post
    Team 1 mid diff.

    Neither Minato or Tobirama even have the reactions to indicate they can react to Kakashi's version of Kamui. Kakashi's Kamui was shown to be faster than Obito's eye movement, summoning Jutsu, and faster than 8th gate Gai. Tobirama and Minato are not going to teleport when they don't know what hit them and when it is. One of them gets wrapped easily. Obito will be there to increase Kakashi's chances.
    I was gonna say"precisely this" but then I realized who wrote it.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by BenjerminGaye View Post
    I was gonna say"precisely this" but then I realized who wrote it.
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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Team two. :D
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Touken View Post
    Team 2 without a doubt.
    Yeah, this.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    People are so stupid. Obito and Kakashi takes this. People think Obito would lose the same way which is very false quit comparing 13year old Obito reaction time and speed to current Obito's reaction time and speed. That's like saying end part 1 Sasuke is just as fast as Hebi Sasuke because they both still only has 3tomoe. Juubi size Katon followed by Kamui snipe would end this.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Tobi and minato can literally warp to each other. And then obito is still tagged so he possibly gets ganged as soon as the battle starts...

    Team 2 mid difficulty. Might been better if obito wasn't tagged and had his puppets/bijuu.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by A e r o View Post
    Tobi and minato can literally warp to each other. And then obito is still tagged so he possibly gets ganged as soon as the battle starts...

    Team 2 mid difficulty. Might been better if obito wasn't tagged and had his puppets/bijuu.
    Obito being tagged is irrelevant in a vs thread. That's like me saying Minato doesn't have any arms.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalDebater View Post
    Obito being tagged is irrelevant in a vs thread. That's like me saying Minato doesn't have any arms.
    Well that is one of flaws of FTG being given from the start so I think it matters. Also minato without arms would be revelent, how would he even attack? Bite and kick?
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi & Obito vs Tobirama & Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by A e r o View Post
    Well that is one of flaws of FTG being given from the start so I think it matters. Also minato without arms would be revelent, how would he even attack? Bite and kick?
    This my point exactly. How would this even be a reasonable debate if Obito is already tagged.
     
         

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