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    Madara Soul Searching

    I originally wrote this theory on the Naruto.viz forums. Another user here
    copied it without my knowing. But anywho I'm posting it here because
    another user here had questions and since I'm the original author of
    the original thread I'm gonna try to answer those questions. I also
    thought I had created this thread before but maybe not. If I did
    and it got deleted I would like to know that the thread got deleted
    and preferably why especially when the copied post still remains.
    But anywho onto to the theory.

    Tobi is Madara.
    Kabuto's sixth coffin is that of Madara.
    Tobi is still Madara.
    Kabuto did NOT summon Madara's body.
    Kabuto summoned Madara's SOUL
    Madara lost his soul. Madara is an animated living corpse.
    Madara is not a zombie as he can still think. He is alive...but soulless
    I literally mean Madara has no soul. He lost his soul long ago.
    The Sage of The Six Paths sealed the 10 tailed beast in the moon
    The Gedo Statue is controlled by the Rinnengan.
    The Gedo Statue IS the the body of the 10 tailed beast
    Madara summoned the Gedo Statue...from the moon.
    In order to do this, Madara had to seal his own soul away
    The soul was sealed away in the Hidden Waterfall Village
    The Hidden Waterfall Village is where the Sage of the Six Paths died
    Madara's fight with Onoki is what led him to find out about all this
    Onoki was trying to take over the Hidden Waterfall
    Onoki heard rumors of a great power there
    Onoki gave up when Madara defeated him.
    The Hidden Waterfall thought Madara their hero
    They gave Madara the stone tablet of the Sage of the Six Paths
    The Hidden Waterfall couldn't read them and didn't know what they were giving Madara.
    Madara could read them. This is how Madara learned of the Ten Tails
    Somehow the stone tablet ended up in the Nakano Shrine
    Madara stole the Sage of the Six Path's Rinnengan
    He implanted it into Nagato when he was a baby
    Madara did this so Nagato could recover Madara's soul
    Kabuto figured out the seal. Now he has Madara's soul
    Madara can't fight against his own soul
    Tobi is still Madara

    Now the questions and comments


    what i don't know what your writen but is any of that even in the manga i never read or wacthed anything about the water fall village and the stone tablet comeing from the water fall village none of that is possible and i think the so6p body would be completly decaded so would his eyes and where does it say he had to seal his soul give me the link where it says this and gedo staue is just for the sealing isn't it and if he had to seal his soul he'd be dead remember when the thrid hokage was trying to oro soul if you take out some ones soul they die but still ok theroy and i'm not argueing just a little citasium


    No it's not in the manga. I'm sorry that the person who copied the thread failed to mention that it was a theory.

    I used the waterfall village because... well why not?
    But that aside I imagine the Sage of the Six Paths is from a small village.

    I do not think the tablets origins are Konoha since the Rinnengan
    is needed to read them. Konoha as far as I know has no Rinnengan
    so it wouldn't make much sense for the tablets to be from Konoha.

    The Rinnengan are very special eyes. I wouldn't be surprised if
    they don't decay at all. Plus they seem to be extremely rare.
    I think it's actually very likely that Nagato had the same Rinnengan
    as the Sage of the Six Paths given that Nagato was not born with them.

    It doesn't say anywhere Madara had to seal his soul but I think it's
    a reasonable explanation for how Madara would lose his soul.
    Of course there's plenty of other ways he can lose it. Such as fighting
    against Hashirama.

    Madara has no soul but he is still alive. Normally this would kill someone
    but with certain conditions it may not. Izanagi might have something
    to do with it. Madara having no soul would explain how he is a "Invincible immortal" and "a shell of his former self" at the same time

    The Gedo Statue does more than sealing. I think it actually works
    as a medium and magnifies jutsu. It absorbs chakra from the user
    via the chakra blades and magnifies it's power. Hence Nagato's
    appearance in volume 48.
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    I don't know.....
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    welcome and pausible the answer good be right under our noses


    it ALSo sounds like riddle
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    first id like to say this is a very good theory overall but i see two problems

    one all ninja villages where created after SO6P was dead (remember how ninjas use to go around selling there sword to the highest bidder)

    second how did kabuto find out about madara? i mean doesnt make since that he would just go around using the jutsu on random blood stains he came across
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    i only read till you said madara summoned statue. sorry nagato did when he lost his legs and that was not even the first time because paper girl had seen it before. madara can control it now because he has nagatos eyes. at least one anyway.
    here is a different question. if the statue did not come out and give nagato the transmiter for pain puppets what would he be able to do on his own. Remember sage of 6path was on his own level.
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    Now that I read it again, yes!
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    Oh and welcome :D
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    u came up pretty good theory or Riddle

    Welcome to NB
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    Quote Originally Posted by mrsticky005 View Post
    I do not think the tablets origins are Konoha since the Rinnengan
    is needed to read them. Konoha as far as I know has no Rinnengan
    so it wouldn't make much sense for the tablets to be from Konoha.
    its also possible that tablet is from the konoha. this 3rd rikudo "nagato" his ancestor were from "uzumaki clan"..




    i dont believe that tobi give them to nagato. bec tobi him self recognize nagato as the 3rd rekodu...

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    I liked it, but not the part about giving the eyes to nagato, because madara would do his best to get power, isn't that what he said? He would take them, also nagato didn't have his eyes "activated" before, he activated it when his parents died, then it never became normal again, so if madara gave them to nagata it should be activated from the start
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    Possible very good theory man
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    Quote Originally Posted by GaaraRules111 View Post
    I don't know.....
    Ok

    Quote Originally Posted by Castiel View Post
    welcome and pausible the answer good be right under our noses


    it ALSo sounds like riddle
    Like a riddle? How so?


    Quote Originally Posted by foamy View Post
    first id like to say this is a very good theory overall but i see two problems

    one all ninja villages where created after SO6P was dead (remember how ninjas use to go around selling there sword to the highest bidder)

    second how did kabuto find out about madara? i mean doesnt make since that he would just go around using the jutsu on random blood stains he came across
    When I say the Sage was born in the Hidden Waterfall I don't mean the political village but more of the geographic area. Actually the reason
    I picked the Hidden Waterfall is because this is where Kabuto was right
    before he allied with Madara. I'm not sure how Kabuto found Madara's DNA.



    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto Power View Post
    i only read till you said madara summoned statue. sorry nagato did when he lost his legs and that was not even the first time because paper girl had seen it before. madara can control it now because he has nagatos eyes. at least one anyway.
    here is a different question. if the statue did not come out and give nagato the transmiter for pain puppets what would he be able to do on his own. Remember sage of 6path was on his own level.
    Nagato did summon the statue. But as you said it was not the first time
    the statue had been summoned. Madara can control it because he has
    Nagato's eyes but remember that he gave Nagato the eyes. Anywho,
    Madara summoning the Gedo Statue from the moon isn't a vital part
    of the theory. There's more than one way Madara can lose his soul.

    Nagato has all powers of the six paths. The six paths just channel his powers.


    Quote Originally Posted by GaaraRules111 View Post
    Now that I read it again, yes!
    Yay

    Quote Originally Posted by GaaraRules111 View Post
    Oh and welcome :D
    thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex the bullet View Post
    U better start makin bios lol
    bios?

    Quote Originally Posted by avengersk07 View Post
    u came up pretty good theory or Riddle

    I say theory

    Welcome to NB
    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex the bullet View Post
    Wellcome
    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by pungzeyez View Post
    its also possible that tablet is from the konoha. this 3rd rikudo "nagato" his ancestor were from "uzumaki clan"..



    i dont believe that tobi give them to nagato. bec tobi him self recognize nagato as the 3rd rekodu...

    .
    I think that would make it more likely
    that the Sage was from the Land of Eddies.


    Quote Originally Posted by Abd100 View Post
    I liked it, but not the part about giving the eyes to nagato, because madara would do his best to get power, isn't that what he said? He would take them, also nagato didn't have his eyes "activated" before, he activated it when his parents died, then it never became normal again, so if madara gave them to nagata it should be activated from the start
    Madara said that he gave Nagato the Rinnengan. I dunno what this could
    mean but the obvious of that he transplanted the Rinnengan into Nagato.
    There's no actual proof that Nagato activated his eyes when his parents
    died or ever activated them or for that matter ever deactivated them.
    Tell me, have you ever seen Nagato with the Rinnengan deactivated?
    No you haven't because the only time we see him "without" Rinnengan
    is when his hair is covering his eyes and then we just don't know if
    they are active or not. I think the eyes are always active. When
    Nagato's parents died he didn't "activate" it. He just used them.
    Also with the fact Nagato did it without consciously thinking about it
    makes quite possible that was not the first time he used them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Kagami View Post
    Possible very good theory man
    thank you.
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    Well I really like the theory I said so, but transplating the eyes may not be true, madara lies, who knows, but it's still possible because of madara weakened status, and he need some1 to help him so he transplated it into nagato, everything is possible, lieing also, he would lie to make konan tell him about the place, on the other hand, great thoughts!!.
     
         

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    Re: Madara Soul Searching

    if that right.. it gonna be more awesome
     
         
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