[Discussion] Naruto's Rank

[-Severus Snape-]

in theory he's still a genin, but he posses the power and jutsu's of a Kage. So they can give him the rank Jounin orso, but what does it for Naruto himself, nothing! and it would be awesome if he's the first genin to become hokage

[jisthone]

he figured out using rasenshuriken in sage mode wont effect his bodi, wen dey told him dat pains a visuali link he instantli hit it wit frog martial arts(wateva d name is)...wen he was versin d guy that resurrects for d 2nd time he came up with a 3-stage attack (anticipated a counter), when he was held by the chakra absorbing pain he figured if he feeds him nature chakra it wont be able to control it..the onli reason he didn kill nagato is b'cuz he wanted to 'understand' him, thats the onli wai u acheive jiraiya's version of peace..not by killing( which onli grows more hate) and nagato also saw that hence he realised his mistake there for as an act of redemption he revived the konoha ninjas...THEREFORE his more than qualified to be a jounin, which unofficiali he is

Naruto can develop strategies but all those strategies has maximum 4 or 5 steps he cant execute or plan big moves and without any thought jumps into every trouble . . . . .and of course thats his best part

[s0ulja]

Naruto can develop strategies but all those strategies has maximum 4 or 5 steps he cant execute or plan big moves and without any thought jumps into every trouble . . . . .and of course thats his best part

yes thats how he "was" ... he has matured ALOT since his confrontation wit nagato. yes he is stil goofy, but thats his character trait..look at jiraiya, his veri similar but he was recommended for hokage..when he wants to be he can be mature

[Dark Sage]

I hope when its all over they have a exam with everybody, so we can see how everybody has grown and gotten more powerful. the only person that might even stand a chance agaisnt naruto is....... nobody

[Kurenai]

yes thats how he "was" ... he has matured ALOT since his confrontation wit nagato. yes he is stil goofy, but thats his character trait..look at jiraiya, his veri similar but he was recommended for hokage..when he wants to be he can be mature

now that you mention it, wasn't his name mentioned earlier when the 5 Lords were choosing a Kage (while Tsunade was taking teh dirt nap). But he was still too young.

No matter where you are, and even in the ninja world, a child is still a child. However great skills that Naruto has(which is unsurpassable even by Minato's standards) he is still viewed as a child.

Just because you think otherwise doesn't necessarily mean thats how people in the Narutoverse think of him. To the world he is just some chump in an orange suit. That's why this war is a perfect chance for him to prove his worth and be acknowledged as a human being rather than as a Jinchuuriki.

The Nagato battle was not widely known by the world. Only people who were in Konoha know of it. And even then not many people in Konoha know Naruto. Yes some are just oblivious to Naruto's achievements.

I mean I love naruto alot because he does what others only freakin dream or talk about doing. But we know Naruto more than the people of Naruto. And we know there are some areas Naruto lacks in. But he more than makes up for it with ingenuity and persistence.

Let me make this clear to everyone.

NARUTO WILL BE A HOKAGE NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. If you think he deserves a rank then maybe you should reevaluate why he needs a rank in the first place. He has already set records for a genin. If he becomes any rank higher other than Hokage he will be like everyone else. Besides its more epic to find out a genin saved the butt of a Jonin/Chuunin/ANBU.

Dattebayo! (:

[protentiality]

I think he should be sent back to the academy, he's still so stupid

[s0ulja]

now that you mention it, wasn't his name mentioned earlier when the 5 Lords were choosing a Kage (while Tsunade was taking teh dirt nap). But he was still too young.

No matter where you are, and even in the ninja world, a child is still a child. However great skills that Naruto has(which is unsurpassable even by Minato's standards) he is still viewed as a child.

Just because you think otherwise doesn't necessarily mean thats how people in the Narutoverse think of him. To the world he is just some chump in an orange suit. That's why this war is a perfect chance for him to prove his worth and be acknowledged as a human being rather than as a Jinchuuriki.

The Nagato battle was not widely known by the world. Only people who were in Konoha know of it. And even then not many people in Konoha know Naruto. Yes some are just oblivious to Naruto's achievements.

I mean I love naruto alot because he does what others only freakin dream or talk about doing. But we know Naruto more than the people of Naruto. And we know there are some areas Naruto lacks in. But he more than makes up for it with ingenuity and persistence.

Let me make this clear to everyone.

NARUTO WILL BE A HOKAGE NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. If you think he deserves a rank then maybe you should reevaluate why he needs a rank in the first place. He has already set records for a genin. If he becomes any rank higher other than Hokage he will be like everyone else. Besides its more epic to find out a genin saved the butt of a Jonin/Chuunin/ANBU.

Dattebayo! (:

umm wat was the point of ur essay? it has no direction...are u agreeing or disagreeing i'm confused.
in narutoverse being a child doesnt mean anything look at kakashi and itachi
..everyone in konoha see him as a hero...did u not see the episode after the nagato resurrected all the people he killed...The episode name its says "HERO"

rest of the villages dont hav ot know bt his feats, the whole world doesnt have to kno bt his abilities.."Hokage" is the head of konoha...the elders choose, top shinobis approve/disapprove other villages opinions dont mean nothing

plus i didn say anythin bt him being at hokage level, i said his more than fit to be a jounin and unofficiali alredi is:?

[Sveti]

A few things:

Naruto hasn't been an official team leader yet, how do you expect him to lead the entire shinobi force of Konoha?

Being a Jounin isn't about maturity, if it was, Shikamaru should be up there. Also, Jaraiya was given the nickname "Pervy Sage" by Naruto... show's a lot for his "maturity."

All of the nicknames of the characters were given in battle during the Great Ninja Wars, Naruto will surely get one after this war. However, the nicknames hardly mean anything.

Being the Kage of a village (At least in when it comes to Konoha) isn't necessarily about being the strongest, most powerful ninja. It's about having proven experience in the heat of battle. Things Naruto is just getting now. He is as powerful as a Kage, but he lacks experience, which appears to be the main criteria for Konoha.

I agree with the foreshadowing of being a Genin for ever, it adds some prestige to when Naruto does become Kage. He's definitely able to handle Chuunin, after all, he completely blindsided Neji during the exams. However, that wasn't enough. He's intelligent when he needs to be, and even when people think he's wrong, he ends up winning and proving them wrong.

Naruto's role in taking down Madara and how things work out with Sasuke will determine his fate for Kage. After all, the entire village agrees that Sasuke is to be put down. Until that changes, Naruto is basically not ready to be the Hokage because he can't make "a hard decision."

[Futur3Cha0s]

"Being the Kage of a village (At least in when it comes to Konoha) isn't necessarily about being the strongest, most powerful ninja. It's about having proven experience in the heat of battle. Things Naruto is just getting now. He is as powerful as a Kage, but he lacks experience, which appears to be the main criteria for Konoha."

If you say that naruto doesn't have enough experience to become Hokage I'd have to disagree with you. Yes he's young, immature, and semi-unintelligent at times but the one thing he does have is experience. The only people with more experience than naruto in konoha are tsunade (played major part in ninja world war) and kakashi (with naruto so fought mostly who naruto fought). I mean think about it, naruto has fought the most powerful shinobi in the world for the past 3 years! no jounin has done that other than kakashi and he's done it because he's with naruto. naruto has fought sasuke, orochimaru, itachi, kakashi, jiraiya, kakuzu, zabuza, and haku (known for beating high level jounin) and nagato. nobody else in the village has fought opponents this strong not even kakashi and tsunade. so the one thing naruto does have is experience in fighting high level shinobi and winning those battles so in my opinion he does have enough experience to become hokage.

[TJ0001]

in the original series (during the orochimaru attack) ninjas said that naruto was strong enough to be hokage. so there that settles it

[CloakedVentus]

I dont think Naruto would care about rank now that war is going on..
After all like everyone else said, he's a sage and the "Hero of the Village".. AND he was able to control the Kyuubi's chakra; no one else has been able to do it. Naruto's been able to complete more stuff than anyone else and still be a genin:
Minato Namikaze (Fourth Hokage)
Jiraya (Sannin)
Kakashi (Former ANBU, Jonin)

He doesn't need to be a higher rank, he's accomplished so much more than those before him even if they were a high rank.. World's Ultimate Genin!!

[Futur3Cha0s]

in the original series (during the orochimaru attack) ninjas said that naruto was strong enough to be hokage. so there that settles it

when was that said in the original series?

[bboyhurricane]

I dont think Naruto would care about rank now that war is going on..
After all like everyone else said, he's a sage and the "Hero of the Village".. AND he was able to control the Kyuubi's chakra; no one else has been able to do it. Naruto's been able to complete more stuff than anyone else and still be a genin:
Minato Namikaze (Fourth Hokage)
Jiraya (Sannin)
Kakashi (Former ANBU, Jonin)

He doesn't need to be a higher rank, he's accomplished so much more than those before him even if they were a high rank.. World's Ultimate Genin!!

^ agreed bro.

[Kira was Righteous]

does it really matter his accomplishments speak louder then any title

[Sveti]

If you say that naruto doesn't have enough experience to become Hokage I'd have to disagree with you. Yes he's young, immature, and semi-unintelligent at times but the one thing he does have is experience. The only people with more experience than naruto in konoha are tsunade (played major part in ninja world war) and kakashi (with naruto so fought mostly who naruto fought). I mean think about it, naruto has fought the most powerful shinobi in the world for the past 3 years! no jounin has done that other than kakashi and he's done it because he's with naruto. naruto has fought sasuke, orochimaru, itachi, kakashi, jiraiya, kakuzu, zabuza, and haku (known for beating high level jounin) and nagato. nobody else in the village has fought opponents this strong not even kakashi and tsunade. so the one thing naruto does have is experience in fighting high level shinobi and winning those battles so in my opinion he does have enough experience to become hokage.

Of those you listed, he's defeated maybe 2. Has he surpassed them? Yes, but you're missing my point. 3 years is a decent amount of time, but all the previous Kage's had more than 3 years experience as leaders, not just fighters. I forgot to add that in there. He's almost ready right now, but Tsunade's still alive and they're in the midst of a war. Sure her has the strength and some of the experience, but he's not ready.

in the original series (during the orochimaru attack) ninjas said that naruto was strong enough to be hokage. so there that settles it

Again, strength isn't everything. We know that he will be Hokage some day. We know he is as strong as the kage. But he doesn't have the life and leadership experience of a kage. After this war, the only thing stopping him from being Hokage is Tsunade.

[Futur3Cha0s]

tsunade doesn't really have leadership experience. i've never heard anything about her being a sensei or team captain, only a terrible gambler and an alcoholic. so what made her a good choice for hokage? I'd have to say her accomplishments in the ninja world war and naruto has more than enough accomplishments to be hokage. and just because naruto didn't defeat some of the people i mentioned doesn't mean anything. the three sannins never beat anyone great and they got the title of sannins because they put up a good fight. i still think naruto is a good choice for hokage because he is ready and he is way more ready than gaara. i know one thing, naruto wouldn't allow himself to be taken out of the middle of his village. also, naruto would have tsunade, shizune, shikaku, and kakashi to help him so he could grow and gain experience while he is hokage. all he would have to do is go out and beat the major villains and he's all set to be a good hokage with their help.

[MadaraSama]

I have enjoyed all the different opinions about his ranking but does ranking make a difference, I tot it was all about your ability to defend your village from enemies but outside and within.

If that is the case then Naruto is bad ass all the way O.O

[iKiddMars]

A few things:

Naruto hasn't been an official team leader yet, how do you expect him to lead the entire shinobi force of Konoha?

Being a Jounin isn't about maturity, if it was, Shikamaru should be up there. Also, Jaraiya was given the nickname "Pervy Sage" by Naruto... show's a lot for his "maturity."

All of the nicknames of the characters were given in battle during the Great Ninja Wars, Naruto will surely get one after this war. However, the nicknames hardly mean anything.

Being the Kage of a village (At least in when it comes to Konoha) isn't necessarily about being the strongest, most powerful ninja. It's about having proven experience in the heat of battle. Things Naruto is just getting now. He is as powerful as a Kage, but he lacks experience, which appears to be the main criteria for Konoha.

I agree with the foreshadowing of being a Genin for ever, it adds some prestige to when Naruto does become Kage. He's definitely able to handle Chuunin, after all, he completely blindsided Neji during the exams. However, that wasn't enough. He's intelligent when he needs to be, and even when people think he's wrong, he ends up winning and proving them wrong.

Naruto's role in taking down Madara and how things work out with Sasuke will determine his fate for Kage. After all, the entire village agrees that Sasuke is to be put down. Until that changes, Naruto is basically not ready to be the Hokage because he can't make "a hard decision."

Yess it does, Your maturity as a NINJA, What they do in their personal life has nothing to do with it. And from what we've seen Shikamaru isn't the most mature as a NINJA either.

[Shotoetoe]

Everybody seems to think being strong is all that's needed to be Hokage. While it is true that your strength must be able to command respect, that's only a small part of the job. The Hokage must make decisions that govern the daily activities of the village. Do you think Naruto can make a decision that might be the demise of a few in order to save the rest of the village? Do you consider him able to sit behind his desk and do the work Tsunade clearly detest doing herself?

And what happens when trouble is brewing? Do you think he's going to stay calm and arrange a response? Or do you think he, the one everyone counts on, is gonna rush into the fray? Do you consider him able enough to handle everything by himself? In the end there's only so much he can handle by himself. Even more, the villagers will gladly sacrifice themselves to save the Hokage. How do you think he'll react to that. They tried to hide him from the war, and see how that turned out.

Naruto is a jinchuuriki and as such is the strongest weapon of the village. He seems perfectly contented to be able to get into the action as often as possible.

Finally, if you consider his goal is to bring peace to the world, his strength wouldn't be all that important anymore should he reach that goal.

[FirzenNaruto]

Naruto = the first ever Genin-kage of a village

[mmuse001]

Naruto is beyond chunin/jounin/ he is the strongest shinobi in the leaf village