[Discussion] Madara's EMS powers locked away into his normal 3-tomoe sharingan

[Sasuke of the akatsuki]

Hi people so, as the title says i think madara's ems somehow got locked away into his normal sharingan but was able to keep some of its powers(time-space ninjutsu). I mean look it, he uses the space-time ninjutsu like its nothing and hasn't shown the least bit of damage to his eyes. I know we don't know what madara was capable of back then when he fought hashirama, but his sharingans time and space ninjutsu seems a bit powerful for a normal 3-tomoe sharingan. Please discuss to your hearts content :D

[-Haku Yuki-]

what?

[Ira]

You mean some kind of sealing jutsu?

[Sasuke of the akatsuki]

what?

What do you mean what?

[Gorlack2231]

I think that could very well happen. I could see the First Hokage deciding to seal Madara's EMS, or having his Uzumaki wife take care of it. Very possible, points to you.

[Xanthe]

Who said that his Space-Time ninjutsu was from his sharingan?

[Sasuke of the akatsuki]

You mean some kind of sealing jutsu?

Maybe, I don't know a sealing that could seal madara's ems back to a normal sharingan but maybe

[siyo]

Interesting idea.But it is more likely that the space time jutsu is from his ems, unless you are saying that he has his ems powers just in a sharingan form?

[Sasuke of the akatsuki]

Who said that his Space-Time ninjutsu was from his sharingan?

no one said, but when he teleports away or teleports somebody away the warp comes out of the mask hole his sharingan is. But if you think it dosen't then tell me where you think it comes from.

[Floydical]

I know what you are getting at. Its true that Madara's space time jutsu seems far more likely to be an EMS ability than anything else. Every powerful Sharingan technique involves the MS and the regular sharingan does not seem to have any unique powers other than the basic boosts to perception/ speed/ awareness.

It seems to me that you are right, to an extent. Seems to me that at some point Madara lost his EMS but was able to keep one of his abilities, his space-time jutsu. I think one likely case would involve him loosing his fight with Hashirama and loosing his EMS as a result. Another likely case would involve him giving up his EMS/ Rinnegan to Nagato and when he implanted new Sharingan, he somehow kept at least one of his MS abilities. It is 100% clear that his right Sharingan is the epicenter of the space time jutsu, as we've seen many times.

[Xanthe]

He could have learned it like Minato...

[~xtsukune~]

thats an interesting theory you get *****

[-Haku Yuki-]

What do you mean what?

i mean wtf are you talking about

[Aenigma]

That is a pretty interesting idea and it may be possible, considering the Senjus are related to the Uzamaki's who are good at sealing, and maybe Hashirama got some of that sealing power and sealed Madara's eyes... it would be a cool twist to the story and explain why Madara never showed his EMS.

[-Liquid Cefka-]

yeah, i get what your saying.
its possible i guess.

[Sasuke of the akatsuki]

i mean wtf are you talking about

The title easily explains it all if you couldn't read what i was saying, but sorry if i have a couple grammar problems. Im saying that madara somehow got his EMS locked or sealed away after his fight with the 1st. Maybe the 1st hokage saw that madara's eyes was his source of power so he used some kind of sealing to lock away the ems. But Madara was able to keep one of his ems powers with him(space-time ninjutsu) and use it with the 3-tomoe. I mean look at what he can do with that jutsu, he can phase through objects, make his body intangible,and teleport himself and others away. All that with no harm to his eyes. So either his ems is lockes/sealed away within his sharingan or his normal sharingan is just that ****in powerfulO.O.
Get what im saying now???

[natssuu]

There are people who has special sharingans for example Shisui. Tobi has many sharingans and it wouldn't be surprising if one of them has special ability.

[FirzenNaruto]

Hmm... does he have only Space time jutsu though? Because I remember him managing to escape Itachi's Amaterasu which was set on Madara through Sasuke. Either he used Izanagi ...or he used some sort of sealing to suppress amaterasu which could say something about his sealing prowess....

[leafeater]

It's an interesting idea. I've always wondered if the cost of imperfect Izanagi with the EMS might only be a reversion to a three tomoe Sharingan, which may may have happened at the Valley of End fight. However, I'm not sure how that fits in with his space-time ninjutsu, if it's a MS doujutsu.

Madara's space-time jutsu may be centered around his eye for 'style' to emphasize his Uchiha clan trademark Sharingan (he may be able to center it anywhere), not necessarily because it's a doujutsu, albeit that's most likely at this point. As we've seen, the Sharingan is both functionally and stylishly important to him.

As well, with your theory, it's notable that the Senju and Uzumaki were on very good terms during Hashirama's time, so possible he may have learned or more likely adapted a seal from them. He was even married to a powerful Uzumaki, Mito.



Peace.

[Sasuke of the akatsuki]

There are people who has special sharingans for example Shisui. Tobi has many sharingans and it wouldn't be surprising if one of them has special ability.

Your right about shisui and his visual ability to control people but we don't know if it had any side effects. Danzo could use shisui's ability because he had his eye but there was a cooldown beetween how many times he could use it because he wasn't a full-blooded uchiha. Tobi does have lots of sharingan and maybe he got lucky and transplanted one with the space-time ability i guess. But im sure he didn't transplant each sharingan one by one until he got an ability he could use. But even so, madara's ems being seald away in his sharingan is just a theory

[Sasuke of the akatsuki]

Hmm... does he have only Space time jutsu though? Because I remember him managing to escape Itachi's Amaterasu which was set on Madara through Sasuke. Either he used Izanagi ...or he used some sort of sealing to suppress amaterasu which could say something about his sealing prowess....

Well remember madara can make himself intangible(meaning he can make things go through him) so there would have been no point in using izanagi. But madara is the oldest uchiha and lived since the leaf village was founded, i wouldn't be suprised if he had a jutsu to counter amaterasu. But i agree with the sealing powers alittle. he could have used a seal after he made himself intangible and let the flames go through him.

[BigTDogg220]

I've wondered about how his eye can have the time space ability while only being a normal looking sharingan as well. Your idea is plausible.

[veggetta13]

Hi people so, as the title says i think madara's ems somehow got locked away into his normal sharingan but was able to keep some of its powers(time-space ninjutsu). I mean look it, he uses the space-time ninjutsu like its nothing and hasn't shown the least bit of damage to his eyes. I know we don't know what madara was capable of back then when he fought hashirama, but his sharingans time and space ninjutsu seems a bit powerful for a normal 3-tomoe sharingan. Please discuss to your hearts content :D

nICE... FINALLY CAME UP WITH THESE.

bUT WHAT about Shisiui? I belive he was able to teleport too with 3 tomoe right?

[leafeater]

nICE... FINALLY CAME UP WITH THESE.

bUT WHAT about Shisiui? I belive he was able to teleport too with 3 tomoe right?

That was just body flicker, which was why he was called Shisui of the body flicker.

Peace.

[natssuu]

nICE... FINALLY CAME UP WITH THESE.

bUT WHAT about Shisiui? I belive he was able to teleport too with 3 tomoe right?

He was the master of Body flicker technique. ANBUs and Kakashi can do that too.