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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by dexter64 View Post
    You can interpret it anyway you want, I don't have the exact japanese words of the interview, so don't know for sure and you can't be sure the translation is 100% correct as well, but for me it's more likely including bloodline limit.

    Minato's space/time jutsu was not limited to FTG which is using a seal.

    Anyway, if the jutsu is that simple then why the 3rd, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Orochimaru and Kakashi which all capable of doing fuuin jutsu can't do the FTG?
    i dont think its the case of being capable of doing it, i think they are all capable of learning it but they want to give respect to minato and his inteligants by not stealing his thunder (unintential pun) . and it may not be their style anyway.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by dexter64 View Post
    I got the Hanzo and Shisui parts now. Well, that's what happened when you rely 100% on the wrong translation.

    瞬身の術, Shunshin no Jutsu; Literally meaning Body Flicker Technique, is a high-speed movement technique, allowing a ninja to move short to long distances at an almost untraceable speed. Unfortunately this is translated as teleportation which is incorrect. This technique is very common technique all good ninjas should be able to do it, however Shisui was known as the master of this jutsu.

    時空間忍術, Jikūkan Ninjutsu; Literally meaning "Time-Space Ninja Techniques" are techniques that allow the users to manipulate the space–time continuum. This is the technique that should be translated as teleportation, and so far in the manga only 3 people capable of doing it, Madara, Tobirama (2nd Hokage) and Minato (4th Hokage).
    thanks i understand now , oh and wat about zetsu, or his way of getting around in its own category.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by tiptop View Post
    thanks i understand now , oh and wat about zetsu, or his way of getting around in its own category.
    I think Zetsu uses the roots of trees to move around underground. I speak heavily under correction.
     
         

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    In live u got to accept what ever come your way it may help you one day one day
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMax2012 View Post
    I agree Minato could be the 2nd Hokage grandson. I am just wondering where there proof that Kishi said Naruto has a bloodline limit or that it will be revealed soon.
    i would love to hear some theories also
     
         

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    life without manga sucks
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by marhuto View Post
    i would love to hear some theories also
    My theory is that the 2nd Hokage has something to do with the Hyuuga clan....We know very little about that clan. I think they're a very important clan and I think before this series is over they will play a very key role in the scheme of things. Plus! we know so little about the 2nd seem like he died shortly after he inherited the title from the 1st. Namikaze?
     
         

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    I really think it's a bloodline limit that the 2nd and 4th Hokage had. I assume they both used it almost the same way but the 4th was able to advance his technique better. Madara has something totally different his technique is from his eyes and also he uses the 1st Hokage/Zestu teleport thingy. The only reason Madara can do those things is because he expiremented on his self to do so. I'm sure he wasn't able to teleport doing his fight with the 1st Hokage. He gained that eye capability later
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    thanks dexter completely forgot about that manga.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMax2012 View Post
    I agree Minato could be the 2nd Hokage grandson. I am just wondering where there proof that Kishi said Naruto has a bloodline limit or that it will be revealed soon.
    Sorry about that I meant Grandson! Crazy because if anybody knows anything I'm sure Tsunade does. It's not a coincident that the 2nd Hokage, Jariya, Minato, and Naruto have the same characteristics and most important that same ninja way.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by dexter64 View Post
    Originally Posted by Sarutobi Sasuke
    In that interview Kishi said nothing of a 'bloodline limit'. What he DID say was that the 4th's Secret Bloodline (NOT bloodline limit) will be revealed.

    Minato's space/time justu is not a Bloodline limit its a seal (fuuin jutsu) just like any other summoning jutsu.

    Quote Originally Posted by dexter64 View Post
    You can interpret it anyway you want, I don't have the exact japanese words of the interview, so don't know for sure and you can't be sure the translation is 100% correct as well, but for me it's more likely including bloodline limit.

    Your right, I can't say I'm 100% sure on the translation but after all the searching and research I can say I'm about 95% sure. I couldn't find one in Japanese though (which makes me question the legitimacy of this "interview").

    Yet, all of the sources I've come across says the same things as the one in this post. And in one of those that I've come across some idiot became too exited and misread and mistook #10 to be concerned with Kekkai Genkai's (blood limits) and gave his misguided comment on it. It is also one of the first ones to pop up in a search. And is probably the one that influenced you to believe that Minato has a kekkei genkai.

    Masashi Kishimoto's alleged Interview
    Kishi said this before 2008 Jump Festa.

    1. Akatsuki Leader’s(not confirmed if its Pein / Madara) strength can’t be matched even with 3 Sannins of the leaf.

    2. There is another character in Akatsuki, and unexpected member will bring a chaos
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    3. One of the Akatsuki’s member becomes friend/ally with Naruto

    4. Naruto’s seal will be released by the end of 08, or beginning of the 09. At least 4 tails will be released, be prepared it could be shocking scene

    5. Toad dies(he laughs)

    6. Three (3) of Naruto’s important people will die or get seriously injured

    7. Sasuke’s skills cannot be matched against Naruto’s new skills.

    8. Sasuke v. Itachi is great scale, and later Naruto’s information about family and bloodline will show up

    9. Sai, he will cause something huge(laughs)

    >>>10. 4th’s secret and bloodline will be shown<<<


    This is the source of all the Minato bloodline limit 'Munbo Jumbo'. As anyone can see, Kishi was refeing to his 'family line'. He said nothing about limits or blood limits or kekkei genkai's in this entire interview.


    11. 2 huge characters of Konoha will die.

    12. There is a female member in Akatsuki

    13. Akatsuki will invade Konoha with its mysterious beasts, and Shiranui Genma will provide great help to Konoha

    1. Uchiha’s secret will be revealed and 2 of the remaining will die

    2. Akatsuki’s leader kills 6 people (Does this mean Pein is the confirmed leader?)

    3. Sasuke and Itachi’s fight will cause chaos; Uchiha, Uchiha Madara’s secrets are revealed and all the skills of the MS will be revealed. The fight will end with death of one.

    4. Naruto will collide with Pain; Kakashi’s team will collide with Tobi. There will be big turnaround on Tobi v. Kakashi’s team. Naruto v. Pain will be fights of the “beasts”. Be prepared, during this fight there will be deaths from Naruto’s team.

    5. Three new members will join the Akatsuki. They will be stronger than Deidara, Hidan, and Kakuzu. One of them is the brother/sister of the Hokage

    6. Naruto’s new skills and the result of the training will reveal when he fight against Pain. He have learned all of the Jiraiya’s jutsu during the 3 years of the time and he became much stronger. He did not learn the “toad mode or w.e u call it”. Naruto also learned 3 of the 4th’s jutsus.

    7. After all these fights, there will be a great war

    8. There will be death on Tobi v. Naruto team and one of them becomes unable to fight.

    9. Jinchuuriki of the 8 tailed will be revealed. This Jinchuuriki kills one of the Akatsuki’s members and invades Konoha by him/herself. During this fight one dies, and one will lose his/her eyesight


    Quote Originally Posted by dexter64 View Post
    Minato's space/time jutsu was not limited to FTG which is using a seal.
    Please provide an example of a space/time that Minato used that does not employ sealing jutsu's

    Quote Originally Posted by dexter64 View Post
    Anyway, if the jutsu is that simple then why the 3rd, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Orochimaru and Kakashi which all capable of doing fuuin jutsu can't do the FTG?
    Same reason we've only seen Tsunade and Mito use their seal for example.

    Why is it that only Tobirama, Orochimaru and Kabuto can use Edo Tensei? The answer to this question is the same the answer to yours.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by jmjroc View Post
    yes but he also said "discounting senju hashiramas ckakra" and im not sure but doesnt naruto as an uzumaki have senju blood in him
    This is exactly what I was thinking! So somehow maybe they will be able to use it again. Let's hope so otherwise that's a lot of hype for a very long time come to nothing...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarutobi Sasuke View Post
    Your right, I can't say I'm 100% sure on the translation but after all the searching and research I can say I'm about 95% sure. I couldn't find one in Japanese though (which makes me question the legitimacy of this "interview").

    Yet, all of the sources I've come across says the same things as the one in this post. And in one of those that I've come across some idiot became too exited and misread and mistook #10 to be concerned with Kekkai Genkai's (blood limits) and gave his misguided comment on it. It is also one of the first ones to pop up in a search. And is probably the one that influenced you to believe that Minato has a kekkei genkai.

    Masashi Kishimoto's alleged Interview
    Kishi said this before 2008 Jump Festa.

    1. Akatsuki Leader’s(not confirmed if its Pein / Madara) strength can’t be matched even with 3 Sannins of the leaf.

    2. There is another character in Akatsuki, and unexpected member will bring a chaos
    .
    3. One of the Akatsuki’s member becomes friend/ally with Naruto

    4. Naruto’s seal will be released by the end of 08, or beginning of the 09. At least 4 tails will be released, be prepared it could be shocking scene

    5. Toad dies(he laughs)

    6. Three (3) of Naruto’s important people will die or get seriously injured

    7. Sasuke’s skills cannot be matched against Naruto’s new skills.

    8. Sasuke v. Itachi is great scale, and later Naruto’s information about family and bloodline will show up

    9. Sai, he will cause something huge(laughs)

    >>>10. 4th’s secret and bloodline will be shown<<<


    This is the source of all the Minato bloodline limit 'Munbo Jumbo'. As anyone can see, Kishi was refeing to his 'family line'. He said nothing about limits or blood limits or kekkei genkai's in this entire interview.


    11. 2 huge characters of Konoha will die.

    12. There is a female member in Akatsuki

    13. Akatsuki will invade Konoha with its mysterious beasts, and Shiranui Genma will provide great help to Konoha

    1. Uchiha’s secret will be revealed and 2 of the remaining will die

    2. Akatsuki’s leader kills 6 people (Does this mean Pein is the confirmed leader?)

    3. Sasuke and Itachi’s fight will cause chaos; Uchiha, Uchiha Madara’s secrets are revealed and all the skills of the MS will be revealed. The fight will end with death of one.

    4. Naruto will collide with Pain; Kakashi’s team will collide with Tobi. There will be big turnaround on Tobi v. Kakashi’s team. Naruto v. Pain will be fights of the “beasts”. Be prepared, during this fight there will be deaths from Naruto’s team.

    5. Three new members will join the Akatsuki. They will be stronger than Deidara, Hidan, and Kakuzu. One of them is the brother/sister of the Hokage

    6. Naruto’s new skills and the result of the training will reveal when he fight against Pain. He have learned all of the Jiraiya’s jutsu during the 3 years of the time and he became much stronger. He did not learn the “toad mode or w.e u call it”. Naruto also learned 3 of the 4th’s jutsus.

    7. After all these fights, there will be a great war

    8. There will be death on Tobi v. Naruto team and one of them becomes unable to fight.

    9. Jinchuuriki of the 8 tailed will be revealed. This Jinchuuriki kills one of the Akatsuki’s members and invades Konoha by him/herself. During this fight one dies, and one will lose his/her eyesight




    Please provide an example of a space/time that Minato used that does not employ sealing jutsu's



    Same reason we've only seen Tsunade and Mito use their seal for example.

    Why is it that only Tobirama, Orochimaru and Kabuto can use Edo Tensei? The answer to this question is the same the answer to yours.

    Like I said earlier, you may believe whatever you want to believe which happened to be not what I believe. We will find out eventually which one will be the correct one, no need to argue now.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/502/07
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/503/12

    Do you mean you only seen Tsunade and Mito use fūinjutsu and not the others?

    Are trying to compare IWR and space/time jutsu?
    Let me tell you something IWR is very easy to learn no need for special ability at all unless you counted cold blooded killing as one. The 2nd listed the IWR as a forbidden technique and guard the scroll along with the other forbidden techniques. Oro stole the scrolls and he has no problem killing people and the same goes with Kabuto.

    Do you know that there was a flee on sight order about Minato during the 3rd Ninja War? Why? Because he could literally wipeout hundreds of people in seconds. Body flicker can only cover at most maybe hundreds of meters and only in 1 direction and you still has to do all the move yourself which of course will be limited by your chakra. FTG on the other hand made Minato to be able to travel basicly hundreds of kilometers instantly, he only needed a split second to kill the enemy soldier and repeated the process until the enemy has been wipedout. If 1 man could have that much influence to win the war for Konoha, why not have 5, 10, or whatever numbers you want if it's that simple to learn as your argument (only needed body flicker and fūinjutsu).

    One more thing, summoning is a part of space/time jutsu.

    And next time please answer the questions yourself. I don't think like you and unless you put your arguments in writing then I have no idea what your arguments are.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by dexter64 View Post
    Like I said earlier, you may believe whatever you want to believe which happened to be not what I believe. We will find out eventually which one will be the correct one, no need to argue now.
    I agree. (or at least after this post:o)

    Both of these Jutsu's you've provided as examples makes use of seals.

    The 1st link - The Space–Time Barrier uses the FTG Kunai to form a barrier that can teleport incoming attacks.
    The 2nd link - Its regular FTG, except the Kyuubi went along for the ride.

    Do you mean you only seen Tsunade and Mito use fūinjutsu and not the others?
    Sorry about being so vague.:o

    As to why there aren't any other high level ninja's around using Manato's space/time techniques, the following example applies:

    Tsunade uses the Yin Seal(the diamond on her forehead) to store chakra and she'll use that chakra, that's stored in the seal, later in battle. Its a very useful and powerful sealing technique that any shinobi, with enough talent, should be able to use, because sealing jutsu's don't require any Blood limits.

    So...why isn't any one else using the Yin seal?
    Well... I can't think if any reasons without assumptions .:confused: Maybe kishi just wanted to give the characters some individuality.

    Anyway, the point is, just because Tsunade is the only one in the narutoverse, so far, to have displayed use of the Yin Seal, does not automatically imply she has a Blood limit that enables only her to use it.

    And the same applies to Minato and his Space/Time Jutsu's.

    (*Mito also had a diamond on her forehead, that's why I named her as well in my previous post)

    Are trying to compare IWR and space/time jutsu?
    Let me tell you something IWR is very easy to learn no need for special ability at all unless you counted cold blooded killing as one. The 2nd listed the IWR as a forbidden technique and guard the scroll along with the other forbidden techniques. Oro stole the scrolls and he has no problem killing people and the same goes with Kabuto.
    Excellent point. But still, sometimes there are other possible reasons, other than blood limits, why certain jutsu's are only used by one or two shinobi's.
    And your explanation on IWR is a great example that there are other reasons other than blood limits.


    Do you know that there was a flee on sight order about Minato during the 3rd Ninja War? Why? Because he could literally wipeout hundreds of people in seconds. Body flicker can only cover at most maybe hundreds of meters and only in 1 direction and you still has to do all the move yourself which of course will be limited by your chakra. FTG on the other hand made Minato to be able to travel basicly hundreds of kilometers instantly, he only needed a split second to kill the enemy soldier and repeated the process until the enemy has been wipedout. If 1 man could have that much influence to win the war for Konoha, why not have 5, 10, or whatever numbers you want if it's that simple to learn as your argument (only needed body flicker and fūinjutsu).
    There are plenty of possible reasons why no one else used Minato's Space/Time techniques. Minato having a kekkei genkai is not necessarily the only solution. Because, sealing jutsu's don't require kekkei genkai's.

    One more thing, summoning is a part of space/time jutsu.
    Yup. I agree 100%. Basically Minato summons himself or something to a seal that's been prepared before hand.


    And next time please answer the questions yourself. I don't think like you and unless you put your arguments in writing then I have no idea what your arguments are.
    Once again, I apologize for being too vague.:D
    I'll be clear on this though. None of Minato's techniques that he has used throughout the manga requires one to have a kekkei genkai. Even though no one else has used Minato's space/time jutsu's.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Pein will suck out narutos soul and itachi will sacrifice himself for naruto
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarutobi Sasuke View Post
    I agree. (or at least after this post:o)



    Both of these Jutsu's you've provided as examples makes use of seals.

    The 1st link - The Space–Time Barrier uses the FTG Kunai to form a barrier that can teleport incoming attacks.
    The 2nd link - Its regular FTG, except the Kyuubi went along for the ride.



    Sorry about being so vague.:o

    As to why there aren't any other high level ninja's around using Manato's space/time techniques, the following example applies:

    Tsunade uses the Yin Seal(the diamond on her forehead) to store chakra and she'll use that chakra, that's stored in the seal, later in battle. Its a very useful and powerful sealing technique that any shinobi, with enough talent, should be able to use, because sealing jutsu's don't require any Blood limits.

    So...why isn't any one else using the Yin seal?
    Well... I can't think if any reasons without assumptions .:confused: Maybe kishi just wanted to give the characters some individuality.

    Anyway, the point is, just because Tsunade is the only one in the narutoverse, so far, to have displayed use of the Yin Seal, does not automatically imply she has a Blood limit that enables only her to use it.

    And the same applies to Minato and his Space/Time Jutsu's.

    (*Mito also had a diamond on her forehead, that's why I named her as well in my previous post)



    Excellent point. But still, sometimes there are other possible reasons, other than blood limits, why certain jutsu's are only used by one or two shinobi's.
    And your explanation on IWR is a great example that there are other reasons other than blood limits.




    There are plenty of possible reasons why no one else used Minato's Space/Time techniques. Minato having a kekkei genkai is not necessarily the only solution. Because, sealing jutsu's don't require kekkei genkai's.



    Yup. I agree 100%. Basically Minato summons himself or something to a seal that's been prepared before hand.




    Once again, I apologize for being too vague.:D
    I'll be clear on this though. None of Minato's techniques that he has used throughout the manga requires one to have a kekkei genkai. Even though no one else has used Minato's space/time jutsu's.
    you are a great example of someone who actually uses their brain to take in information and analyse it, and even develop a well structured theory and reply to those that oppose it in an appropriate way. people should take note and stop bringing up/quoting insane theories before even taking the time to think about it themselves. anyone who opposes your theory is clearly in denial or just plain simple; an imbecile.
     
         

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    I strongly agree with you both
     
         

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    Amazeing- now if they want to use Shisui's Mangekyo there gona have to make the war strech on for a deckade or more!- muahhhha!- more Naruto for us!
     
         

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    The three soberest comments I've seen in a long time. I feel like respecitnizing u wit sum +rep.
     
         

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