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      New Evidence I found that says Madara = Obito...

      I went back and found this colored picture of Madara and Sasuke. Manga 398 Page 1.



      Yes its a cool picture, and now we can make some sense of it. Notice that it says "The one power able to keep catastrophy restrained". This says that Pain is NOT able to control the Tailed Beasts with his Rinnengan, his eyes aren't "The One". I take it a step further to say that Sasuke's Eyes are "The One's" that will be able to restrain it, not Madara.

      IMPORTANT. I will take this opportunity add to the arsenal for those who believe Madara/Tobi = Obito. Ok so I zoomed in on Madara's face because I was trying to figure out his facial expression. I have the zoomed in picture at the bottom. Look at his left eye (right from our point of view). Compare that eye to every other ninja out there, and it looks swollen shut, possibly nothing underneath the eyelid. This side of the face is covered on Tobi. SO it makes sense the reason why Tobi/Madara has a mask covering his left side of his face, is to hide the fact that he is missing his left eye. OR he is hiding a more sinister eye bwahaha.

      What do you all think?!?!?!?!
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      Quote Originally Posted by leonmccash View Post
      I went back and found this colored picture of Madara and Sasuke. Manga 398 Page 1.



      Yes its a cool picture, and now we can make some sense of it. Notice that it says "The one power able to keep catastrophy restrained". This says that Pain is NOT able to control the Tailed Beasts with his Rinnengan, his eyes aren't "The One". I take it a step further to say that Sasuke's Eyes are "The One's" that will be able to restrain it, not Madara.

      IMPORTANT. I will take this opportunity add to the arsenal for those who believe Madara/Tobi = Obito. Ok so I zoomed in on Madara's face because I was trying to figure out his facial expression. I have the zoomed in picture at the bottom. Look at his left eye (right from our point of view). Compare that eye to every other ninja out there, and it looks swollen shut, possibly nothing underneath the eyelid. This side of the face is covered on Tobi. SO it makes sense the reason why Tobi/Madara has a mask covering his left side of his face, is to hide the fact that he is missing his left eye. OR he is hiding a more sinister eye bwahaha.

      What do you all think?!?!?!?!
      the picture didnt come up for me...
      but even if hes missing his left eye... that doesnt mean that hes obito...
      it means hes missing an eye

      besides we all know tobi is danzo...

      hell maybe tobi is danzo is obito... trippy!!!

      theyre all the same person.....
       
           

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      Tobi is NOT Danzo are you kidding me? Sorry, but no. I can show you 6 different pages of manga to prove Madara is Tobi.
       
           

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      ya but tobi's mask show's the left side lol, it could just be a hard drawing cause it is so small and from a weird angle. it could also be that when obtaining the EMS, the brothers took out their own eyes and transfered their sharingan's to the other guy and that is how he obtained EMS.

      but what if madara and tobi and danzo and obito are the same person?
       
           
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      Quote Originally Posted by leonmccash View Post
      Tobi is NOT Danzo are you kidding me? Sorry, but no. I can show you 6 different pages of manga to prove Madara is Tobi.
      I know Madara is Tobi Dingus....

      Im saying Madara/Tobi is Danzo

      JUST LIKE HOW YOURE SAYING
      Madara/Tobi is Obito...
      you should really think first before you post... lol

      so what i was saying was
      how crazy would it be if

      Madara is Tobi is Danzo is Obito...

      LOL its called a joke
      obviously it wont happen....

      you cant take everyone in the manga that has a similar handicap and say that they are all the same person...

      Madara is not obito...
      Obito is dead and died with a 2 tomoe sharingan...

      Madara is also not danzo... (although it is a closer match lol)
       
           

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      NO NO NO. ZOOM IN ON THE COLORED PHOTO OF MADARA. Kishi would not be that lazy to draw in an eye, and to make it look like he was punched in the face.

      TOBI = MADARA & OBITO

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      http://www.narutocentral.com/manga-viewer/392/1/
      Tobi is shown in a village. Looks like Konoha. Actually says that the character IS Madara
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      http://www.narutocentral.com/manga-viewer/404/17/
      Zetzu “Noone would reveal the truth about Sasuke. Why did he bother?” Madara “Even if he took the truth to his grave, he was tormented by the idea that I might find Sasuke.” Madara says that Kakuzu was one of Akatsuki that died. “The most important thing was to make Sasuke mine.” Says that its Madara AGAIN.
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      http://www.narutocentral.com/manga-viewer/397/3/
      Best view of Tobi / Madara’s face.
      http://www.narutocentral.com/manga-viewer/398/3/
      Shows Danzous side of face, the side revealed by Madara, and its different. Look at the "age wrinkle marks"
       
           

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      frist off tobi's mask deffinently has the hole on the right side... when your looking at it its the left...

      second tobi is madara.. no question..

      third... he could be danzou.. concidering he uses a sword like that which i believe madara had in the old picture... and his right side of face is allways covered up...
       
           

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      also if you notice that that is madara's right eye, and that tobi lets his right eye be seen, and obito's right eye was crushed by a rock.

      Quote Originally Posted by Toadie View Post
      frist off tobi's mask deffinently has the hole on the right side... when your looking at it its the left...

      second tobi is madara.. no question..

      third... he could be danzou.. concidering he uses a sword like that which i believe madara had in the old picture... and his right side of face is allways covered up...
      dam 1/2 second difference.
       
           
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      haha... yeah but you know what they say.. great minds
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by leonmccash View Post
      NO NO NO. ZOOM IN ON THE COLORED PHOTO OF MADARA. Kishi would not be that lazy to draw in an eye, and to make it look like he was punched in the face.

      TOBI = MADARA & OBITO

      #1
      http://www.narutocentral.com/manga-viewer/392/1/
      Tobi is shown in a village. Looks like Konoha. Actually says that the character IS Madara
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      http://www.narutocentral.com/manga-viewer/404/17/
      Zetzu “Noone would reveal the truth about Sasuke. Why did he bother?” Madara “Even if he took the truth to his grave, he was tormented by the idea that I might find Sasuke.” Madara says that Kakuzu was one of Akatsuki that died. “The most important thing was to make Sasuke mine.” Says that its Madara AGAIN.
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      http://www.narutocentral.com/manga-viewer/397/3/
      Best view of Tobi / Madara’s face.
      http://www.narutocentral.com/manga-viewer/398/3/
      Shows Danzous side of face, the side revealed by Madara, and its different. Look at the "age wrinkle marks"
      lol you really want to prove someone wrong today dont you... lol

      BTW iknow what madara/tobi looks like... i HAVE read the manga...

      no matter how many times i say im not serious...
      your taking this thing to the grave...
      ok if you really want to try and argue this..

      explain these few things:

      1st you can not prove that the city seen in pic one is konoha and even so... that could mean danzo...

      ok
      2. How old is his face in the picture....
      he has wrinkles... (Do not even try to say theyre scars from the rocks....thats BS)
      kakashi doesnt have wrinkles like that....
      and he and obito were around the same age...

      ok....
      OBITO.... Had 2 tomoe sharingan when he was crushed...
      He never had EMS...
      If madara... took his brothers eyes and had EMS... Why did Obito Not have it.....?

      Umm lets see...

      how did the Founder of the Uchiha Clan... make himself into a little boy... and why would he want to ... what would that accomplish...
      and even assuming that he did.... why would he sacrifice his eye for kakashi?

      BUT THE BIGGEST POINT......
      WHERE ARE HIS ORANGE GOGGLES!!!??????? :confused:
       
           

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      Tobi is a good boy :D

      Tobi=Madara=Good Boy


      NVM ...
       
           

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      Tobi is Madara

      and Danzo is Obito
       
           

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      Danzou is obito??? i never even thought about that. It makes sense with his eye covered.... I dunno sounds a little far fetched. but worth looking into
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by leonmccash View Post
      I went back and found this colored picture of Madara and Sasuke. Manga 398 Page 1.



      Yes its a cool picture, and now we can make some sense of it. Notice that it says "The one power able to keep catastrophy restrained". This says that Pain is NOT able to control the Tailed Beasts with his Rinnengan, his eyes aren't "The One". I take it a step further to say that Sasuke's Eyes are "The One's" that will be able to restrain it, not Madara.

      IMPORTANT. I will take this opportunity add to the arsenal for those who believe Madara/Tobi = Obito. Ok so I zoomed in on Madara's face because I was trying to figure out his facial expression. I have the zoomed in picture at the bottom. Look at his left eye (right from our point of view). Compare that eye to every other ninja out there, and it looks swollen shut, possibly nothing underneath the eyelid. This side of the face is covered on Tobi. SO it makes sense the reason why Tobi/Madara has a mask covering his left side of his face, is to hide the fact that he is missing his left eye. OR he is hiding a more sinister eye bwahaha.

      What do you all think?!?!?!?!

      I think maddara came be4 obit and obito is dead!

      But obito could have taken over a name to bring attention to him being alive.

      But i still say honor obito's death and accept it other then trying to make him out to be the leader of an evil oginization. i mean he does have a grave right? they wouldn of left his body lying there
       
           

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      cool theory dude
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by leonmccash View Post
      I went back and found this colored picture of Madara and Sasuke. Manga 398 Page 1.



      Yes its a cool picture, and now we can make some sense of it. Notice that it says "The one power able to keep catastrophy restrained". This says that Pain is NOT able to control the Tailed Beasts with his Rinnengan, his eyes aren't "The One". I take it a step further to say that Sasuke's Eyes are "The One's" that will be able to restrain it, not Madara.

      IMPORTANT. I will take this opportunity add to the arsenal for those who believe Madara/Tobi = Obito. Ok so I zoomed in on Madara's face because I was trying to figure out his facial expression. I have the zoomed in picture at the bottom. Look at his left eye (right from our point of view). Compare that eye to every other ninja out there, and it looks swollen shut, possibly nothing underneath the eyelid. This side of the face is covered on Tobi. SO it makes sense the reason why Tobi/Madara has a mask covering his left side of his face, is to hide the fact that he is missing his left eye. OR he is hiding a more sinister eye bwahaha.

      What do you all think?!?!?!?!
      I looked at the pic n zoomed in but both eyes are closed dude...madara is not obito...i do think obito is dead...thats safe to say.

      Sasuke is not tainted by konoha due to his life long quest to kill his own brother, unlike itatchi. madara knows he cannot kill everyone in konoha by himself so he needs aonther uchiha dats powerfull enough to aid him. One person controlling the kyuubi if extracted and the other destroying konoha shinobi. That is why he needs sasuke and that is why itatchi tried to keep him from sasuke.

      If there is any speculation that obito is danzou lets just end that because its impossible. First of all danzou is not an uchiha, hes to old to be obito...kakakshi would have to be just as old as danzou, if obito was actually. Danzou is as old or older than the advisors, the advisors were on the same team as the 3rd, for obito to be danzou he would have about 65-70 years old and kakakshi is about 29 years old.
       
           
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      Quote Originally Posted by kakashithunder View Post
      cool theory dude
      Thx, wait who where you tlkin bout me or the other dude
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by jawey24 View Post
      I looked at the pic n zoomed in but both eyes are closed dude...madara is not obito...i dnt think obito is dead...thats safe to say.

      Sasuke is not tainted by konoha due to his life long quest to kill his own brother, unlike itatchi. madara knows he cannot kill everyone in konoha by himself so he needs aonther uchiha dats powerfull enough to aid him. One person controlling the kyuubi if extracted and the other destroying konoha shinobi. That is why he needs sasuke and that is why itatchi tried to keep him from sasuke.

      If there is any speculation that obito is danzou lets just end that because its impossible. First of all danzou is not an uchiha, hes to old to be obito...kakakshi would have to be just as old as danzou, if obito was actually. Danzou is as old or older than the advisors, the advisors were on the same team as the 3rd, for obito to be danzou he would have about 65-70 years old and kakakshi is about 29 years old.
      I agree with danzou not bein obito, And there is a chance obito took madara's name but its all about time we will hav2 wait and see.
       
           

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      both of ya jake and leon
       
           

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      @ Danzo=Obito.
      Danzo's eyes have pupils, which Uchiha lack [It's all black, instead of having an Iris and a pupil] so there's no way he can be Obito.
      And I looked at the picture, it looks pretty normal to me.
      Madara is a little bit sleepy eyed, so his eyes are like half shut.
      The drawing is to small to detail the whole thing, so he just drew the basic outline of an eye, something like this:
      (o)<------Eye
      And plus, both of the eyes look pretty similar, so if one eye is missing, the other eye must be missing as well, no?
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by QwertyHero View Post
      @ Danzo=Obito.
      Danzo's eyes have pupils, which Uchiha lack [It's all black, instead of having an Iris and a pupil] so there's no way he can be Obito.
      And I looked at the picture, it looks pretty normal to me.
      Madara is a little bit sleepy eyed, so his eyes are like half shut.
      The drawing is to small to detail the whole thing, so he just drew the basic outline of an eye, something like this:
      (o)<------Eye
      And plus, both of the eyes look pretty similar, so if one eye is missing, the other eye must be missing as well, no?
      Yah that and the fact the age differences. then again tsunade looks like 29 and she is like 99
       
           

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      This picture would be before Obito was killed. Also why would Danzou want control of Konoha if he were Madara? Absolutely no reason. Madara wants to pretty much control the world, he wouldn't be doing all the little scheming. Also remember that Danzou wanted Sasuke killed because he is a missing nin, Madara doesn't want Sas killed.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by StopDropNRoll View Post
      This picture would be before Obito was killed. Also why would Danzou want control of Konoha if he were Madara? Absolutely no reason. Madara wants to pretty much control the world, he wouldn't be doing all the little scheming. Also remember that Danzou wanted Sasuke killed because he is a missing nin, Madara doesn't want Sas killed.
      All great points.

      but like i still think obito is dead

      And madarra is madara. because how would obito get mangekyou? his best friend is still alive

      But as ive said b4 he could be using the name. and not to mention if he needed help to destroy the uchiha's maybe he isnt madarra cuz madarra wouldn need help.

      And maddarra could control the 9 tails and stuff. he told sasuke he was the only one who could.

      All possibillities but i stick with obito is dead
       
           

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      Look at his other eye.

      They both look the same.
       
           

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      Ah...this Madara talk gets anoying


      :D
       
           

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