New Evidence I found that says Madara = Obito...

[Zabuza the Demon]

im sick of all this madara is obito talk but if u turns out to be guys alot of people are going to be saying i told u so

[UzumakiJake]

im sick of all this madara is obito talk but if u turns out to be guys alot of people are going to be saying i told u so

Haha i know right. I hope it turns out to be maddara instead of obito so poepl dont say i told you so

[MayuneSpirit]

Tobi is Madara

and Danzo is Obito

Uhh...isn't Danzou a little OLD to be Obito? He's an elder, meaning he's been with this village for a while, and has been known as Danzou his whole life. It's not possible.



And why is everyone still fighting over who Tobi is? It's already been clarified that he is Madara.

[Skye Kaguya]

This picture would be before Obito was killed. Also why would Danzou want control of Konoha if he were Madara? Absolutely no reason. Madara wants to pretty much control the world, he wouldn't be doing all the little scheming. Also remember that Danzou wanted Sasuke killed because he is a missing nin, Madara doesn't want Sas killed.

Madara left because he was pissed at the way the senju clan was put in charge... he felt the uchiha was losing face...
it makes perfect sense for him to want to be hokage
it really does...
He wanted to be hokage at the beginning...
even recommending a coup d'etat to sieze power

but as far as Madara = Obito

this pretty much closes that book forever...


THAT BOULDER IS FRIKKIN HUUUUUUUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[UzumakiJake]

Madara left because he was pissed at the way the senju clan was put in charge... he felt the uchiha was losing face...
it makes perfect sense for him to want to be hokage
it really does...
He wanted to be hokage at the beginning...
even recommending a coup d'etat to sieze power

but as far as Madara = Obito

this pretty much closes that book forever...


THAT BOULDER IS FRIKKIN HUUUUUUUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

First time i have ever 100% agreed with some one. Nice job Kyyubi

[QwertyHero]

How do you know Obito was crushed? I never saw ONE manga that says that... Other than fan-made or fake ones... Where is that manga? All I know is that Obito gave Kakashi his right eye (the side of Tobi's mask covered) before he died.

Kakashi Gaiden?
-_-'

[UzumakiJake]

How do you know Obito was crushed? I never saw ONE manga that says that... Other than fan-made or fake ones... Where is that manga? All I know is that Obito gave Kakashi his right eye (the side of Tobi's mask covered) before he died.

HIs other side was crushed and it is actually logical that tobi is obito. but i still lean towards him bein dead and tobi being madara

[UzumakiJake]

How do you know Obito was crushed? I never saw ONE manga that says that... Other than fan-made or fake ones... Where is that manga? All I know is that Obito gave Kakashi his right eye (the side of Tobi's mask covered) before he died.

Also his right eyes was under a rock kakashi got the left eye. its even in kakashi's left eye and his right eye is covered so its safe to say not same guy

[Cash]

I just deleted my post because I looked up the manga that was quoted. about kakashi.

[UzumakiJake]

I just deleted my post because I looked up the manga that was quoted. about kakashi.

Haha wait have u never seen it b4??

[Cash]

I did. But forgot. I've seen fan-made ones too so i forget sometiems...

[UzumakiJake]

I did. But forgot. I've seen fan-made ones too so i forget sometiems...

yah i love and hate the fan made ones. i saw so many fan made i had to watch the entire series over again

[Cash]

I looked at the pic n zoomed in but both eyes are closed dude...madara is not obito...i do think obito is dead...thats safe to say.

Sasuke is not tainted by konoha due to his life long quest to kill his own brother, unlike itatchi. madara knows he cannot kill everyone in konoha by himself so he needs aonther uchiha dats powerfull enough to aid him. One person controlling the kyuubi if extracted and the other destroying konoha shinobi. That is why he needs sasuke and that is why itatchi tried to keep him from sasuke.

If there is any speculation that obito is danzou lets just end that because its impossible. First of all danzou is not an uchiha, hes to old to be obito...kakakshi would have to be just as old as danzou, if obito was actually. Danzou is as old or older than the advisors, the advisors were on the same team as the 3rd, for obito to be danzou he would have about 65-70 years old and kakakshi is about 29 years old.

Ok. The picture of Madara I am talking about is 2 PAGES LONG. I've seen SINGLE CELLS drawings with eyes smaller drawn and open. Madaras eye if anything is swollen shut. You can argue that both are swollen shut. Maybe he stole Obito's left eye somehow, and still does not have a right one. IE Tobi...

[UzumakiJake]

Ok. The picture of Madara I am talking about is 2 PAGES LONG. I've seen SINGLE CELLS drawings with eyes smaller drawn and open. Madaras eye if anything is swollen shut. You can argue that both are swollen shut. Maybe he stole Obito's left eye somehow, and still does not have a right one. IE Tobi...

and maddara could have stolen obito's, right eye, since kakashi has obito's left, and madara(tobi) has left eye sharingan2

[Vampiress]

Did u guy's just figure that Obito is Tobi? If so thats sad.

[Cash]

Did u guy's just figure that Obito is Tobi? If so thats sad.

Can you help prove me right? Show me what you know

[UzumakiJake]

Did u guy's just figure that Obito is Tobi? If so thats sad.

Nah we are arguing that, me and sage say he is dead. and madarra is tobi.

[UzumakiJake]

Can you help prove me right? Show me what you know

Haha im sticking by my defence. Tobi and Kakashi both have left eye sharingan so covering right eye proves nothing

[Cash]

I say Obito is dead. BUT WHAT if TobiMadara's MS turns out to look like Kakashi's? That would be proof that TobiMadara has Obito's right eye.

Has it ever been told that Madara lost his eyes in the fight against the 4th?
WHAT IF Madara was using his eyes to control the 9-Tails when the 4th sealed the 9-Tails into Naruto. That would have over-rided Madaras eyes. If Madara used his EMS (GODLY EYES) to try and fight the 4ths jutsu... he surely could have lost both of them...

[UzumakiJake]

I say Obito is dead. BUT WHAT if TobiMadara's MS turns out to look like Kakashi's? That would be proof that TobiMadara has Obito's right eye.

Has it ever been told that Madara lost his eyes in the fight against the 4th?
WHAT IF Madara was using his eyes to control the 9-Tails when the 4th sealed the 9-Tails into Naruto. That would have over-rided Madaras eyes. If Madara used his EMS (GODLY EYES) to try and fight the 4ths jutsu... he surely could have lost both of them...

Yah thats true, so ur on our side sweet!

Either way madarra was narly in his younger days! him and the first tried to kill each other so many times never worked for either

[Cash]

Yah thats true, so ur on our side sweet!

Either way madarra was narly in his younger days! him and the first tried to kill each other so many times never worked for either

I don't choose sides... people choose mine hahaha

But yeah. I think that something crazy had to have happened in the 4th vs Madara & 9-Tails fight...

I honestly think Madara lost both of his eyes... Where he got the new Sharringan... IDK. I am assuming Obito, it could have been from any Uchiha though.

[QwertyHero]

I say Obito is dead. BUT WHAT if TobiMadara's MS turns out to look like Kakashi's? That would be proof that TobiMadara has Obito's right eye.

Has it ever been told that Madara lost his eyes in the fight against the 4th?
WHAT IF Madara was using his eyes to control the 9-Tails when the 4th sealed the 9-Tails into Naruto. That would have over-rided Madaras eyes. If Madara used his EMS (GODLY EYES) to try and fight the 4ths jutsu... he surely could have lost both of them...

Madara never fought the 4th.
When Kyuubi attacked Konoha, it was a natural disaster, Madara had no control of the Kyuubi at the time.
The time when Madara had control of the Kyuubi was when he attacked the 1st in a failed Coup D'etat.

[Cash]

Madara never fought the 4th.
When Kyuubi attacked Konoha, it was a natural disaster, Madara had no control of the Kyuubi at the time.
The time when Madara had control of the Kyuubi was when he attacked the 1st in a failed Coup D'etat.

Ok... Yes the 9-Tails is referred to as "A natural disaster that manifest in a time of great turmoil and unrest". SOOO to build off what you said...

How did Madara "summon" the 9-Tails in the fight against the 1st...

1. If he did not summon it... I find it very convenient for a powerful weapon only able to be controlled by Madara, to show up in his most epic fight against the 1st.

2. If he did not summon it... against the 4th.... and he has the ability to control it... and he wants Konoha... why not go over there and try to use it... again...? And if he did try and use it, which I think he did... I'm sure he could have lost his eyes in the case...

I see what you're saying, but ya need to think deeper

[QwertyHero]

Ok... Yes the 9-Tails is referred to as "A natural disaster that manefest in a time of great turmoil and unrest". SOOO to build off what you said...

1. How did Madara "summon" the 9-Tails in the fight against the 1st...

If he did not summon it... I find it ver convienient for a powerful weapon only able to be controled by Madara, to show up in his most epic fight...

If he did not summon it... against the 4th.... and he has the ability to control it... and he wants Konoha... why not go over there and try to use it... again...?

I see what you're saying, but ya need to think deeper

Ok, let clear some things up....
Madara didn't ''summon'' the Kyuubi like how Naruto summons Gambunta.
Madara sought out the Kyuubi, and forcefully took control of him with his MS.
Madara did this, obviously, to get the upper hand on the 1st in there fight.
Well, it's certainly possible that Madara was behind the attack on Konoha, but there where plenty of people there [Iruka, Jiraiya, ummm...I can't really think of anyone else right now but there were plenty of people there] and no one has ever said they saw anyone else there that night. Even Jiraiya only SUSPECTED that Madara was behind the attack, if Madara was there, Jiraiya would have no doubt that he was behind the attack.

[UzumakiJake]

Ok, let clear some things up....
Madara didn't ''summon'' the Kyuubi like how Naruto summons Gambunta.
Madara sought out the Kyuubi, and forcefully took control of him with his MS.
Madara did this, obviously, to get the upper hand on the 1st in there fight.
Well, it's certainly possible that Madara was behind the attack on Konoha, but there where plenty of people there [Iruka, Jiraiya, ummm...I can't really think of anyone else right now but there were plenty of people there] and no one has ever said they saw anyone else there that night. Even Jiraiya only SUSPECTED that Madara was behind the attack, if Madara was there, Jiraiya would have no doubt that he was behind the attack.

Yah but that still proves nothing cuz, someone in the series said he could have been behind it just a safe distance away. and with the kyuubi there thats where their attention would be