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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by ReLax - View Post
    What manga are you reading there buddy?

    We barely seen what Sasuke is able to do with EMS, so your already jumping the gun.

    Eventually Sasuke will surpass Itachi, Tobi has stated that already including he also said if Sasuke becomes stronger than Nagato, and they don't have full control over him, there will be no point.
    what your reason for sasuke not being able to surpass itachi
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Mig J.J. Quiksilver~ View Post
    can you please tell me what does EMS sasuke have against itachi´s Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror? unless i see sasuke´s susano´o use yata mirror or totsuka blade, than MS itachi beats EMS sasuke (if itachi wants to kill sasuke)
    every average itachi fanboy keep saying "yata mirror and totsuka sword"

    again, those two weapons in itachi's arsenal doesnt mean an instant win.

    we all don't know the full extent of sasuke's EMS. but we all know that EMS>MS. simply because he can spam literally every MS techs.

    and don't give crap now that itachi's MS techniques are superior to sasuke coz sasuke now got the EMS which is far more superior than itachi's eyes.

    yes itachi is intelligent and can easily find enemy's weakness. but don't forget sasuke is also intelligent, anyone that will say sasuke is dumb needs to reread manga. look at fight with danzo and deidara for your reference.

    sasuke also surpasses itachi when using amaterasu.coz sasuke can manipulate its shape and as seen on the recent chapter he can even transform it to a spear.

    YATA mirror is not invincible. yes every attack that is thrown directly to it is nullified. but all fanboys should have a sense that it is infact a SHIELD. and a shield doesnt protect its wielder 360 degrees.. itachi's susanoo still had that WEAKSPOT.

    itachi's only chance of beating sasuke is totsuka sword, which is if he can manage to even hit sasuke with it. which I doubt.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReLax - View Post
    What manga are you reading there buddy?

    We barely seen what Sasuke is able to do with EMS, so your already jumping the gun.

    Eventually Sasuke will surpass Itachi, Tobi has stated that already including he also said if Sasuke becomes stronger than Nagato, and they don't have full control over him, there will be no point.
    LOL at this.

    that "eventually" is happening NOW buddy! if you're reading the manga.
     
         
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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

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    what your reason for sasuke not being able to surpass itachi
    I never said Sasuke can't surpass Itachi.

    I said eventually he will. MS Sasuke was no where near Itachi, with EMS he will but we have rarely seen much to jump to conclusion.

    Also we know Naruto and Sasuke are mains in this story they will pass all greats (Hashirama, Madara, Minato, Itachi, Pein, Jiraiya, and etc).
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    i heard itachi had problems with his heard and blindness.


    Itachi would win against sasuke anytime.

    sasuke just need someone to smack him some couple time.............................
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by ReLax - View Post
    I never said Sasuke can't surpass Itachi.

    I said eventually he will. MS Sasuke was no where near Itachi, with EMS he will but we have rarely seen much to jump to conclusion.

    Also we know Naruto and Sasuke are mains in this story they will pass all greats (Hashirama, Madara, Minato, Itachi, Pein, Jiraiya, and etc).
    sasuke with his ms was actually near itachi level
    the only thing that sasuke didn't have over itachi was tskoyomi and sasuke can break it
    susanno there close in abilities
     
         
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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by ReLax - View Post
    I never said Sasuke can't surpass Itachi.

    I said eventually he will. MS Sasuke was no where near Itachi, with EMS he will but we have rarely seen much to jump to conclusion.

    Also we know Naruto and Sasuke are mains in this story they will pass all greats (Hashirama, Madara, Minato, Itachi, Pein, Jiraiya, and etc).
    first:
    MS sasuke = MS itachi
    why? simply because MS sasuke got all his orginal techs+itachi's techs(who knows maybe yata mirror and totsuka sword that every fanboy is bragging about)


    EMS sasuke > MS itachi
    need I explain more?? average people should be able to understand this
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Do you see when people get EMS do they also get their brothers abilities too? sorry i'm kinda naive.
    And if so Sasuke now has far surpassed itachi
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    I have yet to see any reason to say Sasuke has surpassed Itachi. Sasuke may get there but Itachi lived as a true shinobi. I wish we could see Itachi and Sasuke fight on even footing but since Itachi is an edo tensei we'll never get to see them on even footing.
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Itachi was holding back and couldn't see (yet still was faster than Sasuke in taijutsu before the tsukuyomi usage slowed him down).
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by laxus View Post
    sasuke with his ms was actually near itachi level
    the only thing that sasuke didn't have over itachi was tskoyomi and sasuke can break it
    susanno there close in abilities
    Sasuke Susano'o looked much (meaning armour wise and what not) weaker than that of Itachi. Sasuke with EMS now seems like he has the form of Itachi's Susano'o

    Sasuke




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    Sasuke's EMS Sasuno'o



    The reason why I say Itachi's MS was better than Sasuke MS, is due to Sasuke not being able to master MS, he just jumped battle after battle where Itachi's MS was mastered. If Sasuke has MS for about 3-4 years who know he could or could not pass Itachi.

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    first:
    MS sasuke = MS itachi
    why? simply because MS sasuke got all his orginal techs+itachi's techs(who knows maybe yata mirror and totsuka sword that every fanboy is bragging about)


    EMS sasuke > MS itachi
    need I explain more?? average people should be able to understand this
    Actually no MS Sasuke doesn't = MS Itachi. Similarity wise yes but battle wise no.

    It's like saying Pein/Nagato = SO6P with the Rinnegan right?

    EMS is much stronger, that is common sense, but again depends on the way Sasuke uses it. (someone can fight with a knife while the other fights with his fist, does that always mean the guy with the knife will win?)
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

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    Sasuke Susano'o looked much (meaning armour wise and what not) weaker than that of Itachi. Sasuke with EMS now seems like he has the form of Itachi's Susano'o

    Sasuke




    Itachi's




    Sasuke's EMS Sasuno'o



    The reason why I say Itachi's MS was better than Sasuke MS, is due to Sasuke not being able to master MS, he just jumped battle after battle where Itachi's MS was mastered. If Sasuke has MS for about 3-4 years who know he could or could not pass Itachi.



    Actually no MS Sasuke doesn't = MS Itachi. Similarity wise yes but battle wise no.

    It's like saying Pein/Nagato = SO6P with the Rinnegan right?


    EMS is much stronger, that is common sense, but again depends on the way Sasuke uses it. (someone can fight with a knife while the other fights with his fist, does that always mean the guy with the knife will win?)
    first off, comparing MS itachi like So6P is BS. that actually concludes your an itachi fanboy. this comparison fails.


    the guy with a knife will win, IF they are both skilled. again..sasuke is not as dumb as you. he got some battleskills and intellect as itachi. sasuke shown his intellect when fighting deidara and danzo.

    so you can't really say itachi will win because of his intelligence.no, infact both brothers displays good analytical capability during a fight.

    so clearly when both brothers face off without holding back, EMS sasuke will have a HUGE advantage over itachi.
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    first off, comparing MS itachi like So6P is BS. that actually concludes your an itachi fanboy. this comparison fails.


    the guy with a knife will win, IF they are both skilled. again..sasuke is not as dumb as you. he got some battleskills and intellect as itachi. sasuke shown his intellect when fighting deidara and danzo.

    so you can't really say itachi will win because of his intelligence.no, infact both brothers displays good analytical capability during a fight.

    so clearly when both brothers face off without holding back, EMS sasuke will have a HUGE advantage over itachi.
    First off, I wasn't comparing Itachi with SO6P but giving a example regrading SO6P Rinnegan with that of Nagato's. Fanboy? Well I'm a big fan of Minato, Nagato, Sasuke, Killer Bee, 4th Mizukage, A, and Hashirama so remember to call me there fanboys in any VS thread with them also, Ok? Pathetic, that you have to use these lame ass excuses, "Oh he's a fanboy", "wow another fanboy." "fanboy"

    People who say that just sound like a girl, plain pathetic.

    Are you honestly comparing Sasuke's intellect with Itachi's? LOL

    Deidara's fight, I give it to Sasuke but if it wasn't for Oro/Snake (Manda), it would have been over. Danzou's fight, if it wasn't for Karin and Tobi, it would have been over.

    I didn't say Itachi would win the battle just due to his intelligent.

    You still don't understand, where I am getting at here, MS Itachi would have more knowledge of his MS and mastery over it than Sasuke would have his MS, abilities are the same but Itachi having those abilities would know more about them therefor having a better chance in the battle VS MS Sasuke.

    I have already said not only would EMS Sasuke have the advantage but he would win, depending on what we see from him but than, it depends on how he uses it.

    As far as it goes on the knife case, I've seen it flop (with the one guy being much bigger/stronger than the other and he had much more fighting/stabbing experience). I lived in a ghetto area.
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by ReLax - View Post
    First off, I wasn't comparing Itachi with SO6P but giving a example regrading SO6P Rinnegan with that of Nagato's. Fanboy? Well I'm a big fan of Minato, Nagato, Sasuke, Killer Bee, 4th Mizukage, A, and Hashirama so remember to call me there fanboys in any VS thread with them also, Ok? Pathetic, that you have to use these lame ass excuses, "Oh he's a fanboy", "wow another fanboy." "fanboy"

    People who say that just sound like a girl, plain pathetic.

    Are you honestly comparing Sasuke's intellect with Itachi's? LOL

    Deidara's fight, I give it to Sasuke but if it wasn't for Oro/Snake (Manda), it would have been over. Danzou's fight, if it wasn't for Karin and Tobi, it would have been over.

    I didn't say Itachi would win the battle just due to his intelligent.

    You still don't understand, where I am getting at here, MS Itachi would have more knowledge of his MS and mastery over it than Sasuke would have his MS, abilities are the same but Itachi having those abilities would know more about them therefor having a better chance in the battle VS MS Sasuke.

    I have already said not only would EMS Sasuke have the advantage but he would win, depending on what we see from him but than, it depends on how he uses it.

    As far as it goes on the knife case, I've seen it flop (with the one guy being much bigger/stronger than the other and he had much more fighting/stabbing experience). I lived in a ghetto area.
    still saying "Actually no MS Sasuke doesn't = MS Itachi. Similarity wise yes but battle wise no.
    It's like saying Pein/Nagato = SO6P with the Rinnegan right
    "

    is wrong. first sasuke and itachi is not like pain and so6p. its like saying itachi is the creator of sharingan, or sharingan originated from itachi. so fail. got it?

    second, saying this ninja win because of this and that is BS. yes manda help him to win,but sasuke is still the one who thinks he needs to use manda to survive the blast. so still sasuke won because of his skills. 2nd, sasuke already know how danzo's jutsu works before karin even said it to him. so basically, sasuke figure it out by himself without the help of karin/tobi.
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    He may have EMS, but he is not a master of the Sharingan like Itachi is, give Sasuke time and he probably will be able to eat Itachi alive.
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by Myogen View Post
    I don't think he's surpassed Itachi yet. Itachi's got far more intelligence, wisdom, and overall skill than Sasuke. Sasuke may have him beat in the raw power department with EMS, though he hasn't shown it yet, but the above attributes should still make Itachi the better Shinobi. I don't think Sasuke will surpass Itachi until he returns to the side of good, I.E. his final battle with Naruto and the battle after it [probably against Kabuto].
    This. Sasuke has a long way to go before he can surpass Itachi. He is yet to prove himself that he is more than an OP guy who got his most important power up is gift and can think beyond his own self. Itachi is already a legend.
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    naruto should just release the nine tails and beat the f@ck out out everything
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    still saying "Actually no MS Sasuke doesn't = MS Itachi. Similarity wise yes but battle wise no.
    It's like saying Pein/Nagato = SO6P with the Rinnegan right
    "

    is wrong. first sasuke and itachi is not like pain and so6p. its like saying itachi is the creator of sharingan, or sharingan originated from itachi. so fail. got it?
    You gotta be kidding me.

    Are you lacking in understanding or something here?

    You said, "MS Sasuke = MS Itachi" meaning because both have MS and same techs they are on equal footing?

    I actually was arguing that point. I was simply saying that just because Sasuke and Itachi have MS doesn't mean they are on the same level

    Seeing your fanboyism with Pein/Nagato, I decided to show you an example that since you are saying MS Sasuke = MS Itachi due to both having MS makes them equal footing. (Example: Pein/Nagato = SO6P since they both possess Rinnegan? Neji = Hinata both with Bakuygan? Or MS Madara = MS Izuna)

    I never stated MS Sasuke/Itachi = Pein/Nagato/SO6P. Do you get that now?

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    second, saying this ninja win because of this and that is BS. yes manda help him to win,but sasuke is still the one who thinks he needs to use manda to survive the blast. so still sasuke won because of his skills. 2nd, sasuke already know how danzo's jutsu works before karin even said it to him. so basically, sasuke figure it out by himself without the help of karin/tobi.
    Are you for real here? If I recall weren't you the one whining when people were saying Naruto beat Pein or Itachi sealed Nagato? And now your simply stating that.

    khaydz5 says: Naruto only won because he Knew Pein's secret and the toads helped me, etc etc. (saying this ninja win because of this and that is BS)

    Naruto did get help but he found out the real location of Nagato on his own here. He won the battle and changed Nagato heart to doing something good. So naruto won becuase of his skills also.

    khaydz5 says: Itachi only sealed Nagato becuase Naruto and Bee helped him etc etc. (saying this ninja win because of this and that is BS)

    So clearly it's ok saying Itachi found out Nagato tech weakness and knew how to use KB and Naruto strong long range techs. and Itachi sealed him after knowing when to do that. So Itachi won becuase of his intelligent and knowledge. Itachi won because of his skill also.
     
         
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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Sage~ View Post
    Thankyou, EMS only gave Sasuke, spamming rights.
    He still looses chakra, and he has actually gotten dumber.
    Actually Sasuke hasn't gotten dumber, if you think so watch him fighting. When you'll say that he has gotten clever, when he'll join the Leaf village, when he'll be a good and a brilliant ninja? Well if he doesn't want to join you call him "dumb" that's such a poor logic!
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by ReLax - View Post
    You gotta be kidding me.

    Are you lacking in understanding or something here?

    You said, "MS Sasuke = MS Itachi" meaning because both have MS and same techs they are on equal footing?

    I actually was arguing that point. I was simply saying that just because Sasuke and Itachi have MS doesn't mean they are on the same level

    Seeing your fanboyism with Pein/Nagato, I decided to show you an example that since you are saying MS Sasuke = MS Itachi due to both having MS makes them equal footing. (Example: Pein/Nagato = SO6P since they both possess Rinnegan? Neji = Hinata both with Bakuygan? Or MS Madara = MS Izuna)

    I never stated MS Sasuke/Itachi = Pein/Nagato/SO6P. Do you get that now?



    Are you for real here? If I recall weren't you the one whining when people were saying Naruto beat Pein or Itachi sealed Nagato? And now your simply stating that.

    khaydz5 says: Naruto only won because he Knew Pein's secret and the toads helped me, etc etc. (saying this ninja win because of this and that is BS)

    Naruto did get help but he found out the real location of Nagato on his own here. He won the battle and changed Nagato heart to doing something good. So naruto won becuase of his skills also.

    khaydz5 says: Itachi only sealed Nagato becuase Naruto and Bee helped him etc etc. (saying this ninja win because of this and that is BS)

    So clearly it's ok saying Itachi found out Nagato tech weakness and knew how to use KB and Naruto strong long range techs. and Itachi sealed him after knowing when to do that. So Itachi won becuase of his intelligent and knowledge. Itachi won because of his skill also.
    lol, you did some intensive research on that. waste of time.

    but anyway, nagato vs itach,naruto and bee is entirely different from one on one fights like deidara and sasuke/ danzo and sasuke. so still your comparison fails.

    all im saying here is, manda is part of his arsenal and it is not right to say that, its because of manda sasuke win... sasuke actually USED manda to win <--this is more appropriate.

    when I said, "saying this ninja win because of this and that is BS" I was actually referring to what you said, like "Deidara's fight, I give it to Sasuke but if it wasn't for Oro/Snake (Manda), it would have been over. Danzou's fight, if it wasn't for Karin and Tobi, it would have been over."

    you're the one who misunderstood my point.
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Itachi Loved His Brother
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Sasucker was a dumbass, remained one for a while, and is nowadays one of the manga`s stupidiest and most spoiled characters seen. Does the word "emotional" give you enough to trigger your insights?
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    I'm an itachi fan, but to be honest sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    lol, you did some intensive research on that. waste of time.

    but anyway, nagato vs itach,naruto and bee is entirely different from one on one fights like deidara and sasuke/ danzo and sasuke. so still your comparison fails.

    all im saying here is, manda is part of his arsenal and it is not right to say that, its because of manda sasuke win... sasuke actually USED manda to win <--this is more appropriate.

    when I said, "saying this ninja win because of this and that is BS" I was actually referring to what you said, like "Deidara's fight, I give it to Sasuke but if it wasn't for Oro/Snake (Manda), it would have been over. Danzou's fight, if it wasn't for Karin and Tobi, it would have been over."

    you're the one who misunderstood my point.
    Not much research just basic, I've seen around

    The whole first part of the post you actually misunderstood me but whatever.


    The term 'USED' as far as I know Bee TBB and Naruto's RS were also "USED" to stop Nagato tech. they both (Naruto/Bee) were also what you can consider as in Itachi's 'arsenal' after that Itachi sealed Nagato. Sasuke also "USED" manda in order to escape, remember Suigetsu summoned him after and we also saw him (Sasuke) control the snake with his Sharingan and Oro spoke to him after, cursing him.

    Yes, I do look at it in a way the manda saved Sasuke but if he didn't have manda, how else would he survive? If Itachi or Naruto/Bee didn't have one another how would they survive? or would they?

    Therefor Sasuke had Manda in his arsenal and Itachi/Naruto/Bee had each other in there arsenal, both being able to get a victory/win/survive or whatever way you wanna look at it.
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

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    Itachi took a rough beating from his brother but he still put up a really good fight :lili:
    Bait, Belief, or Troll...? next time on Monsterquest! lol. :D

    I'm sorry people, but don't you find the timing, OP topic, and brevity of the post suspicious?
     
         

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    Re: sasuke surpassed his bro

    ems= win tbh

    i mean sasuke might get caught by the sealing sword, but then again itachi might get caught by the amaterasu sword sooo yea
     
         

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