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    Ridiculous

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    Don't you guys and girls think that Pain is kind of ridiculous.
    Or kishi is totally lacking logics.
    Why the heck does Pain need fillage if he can fight a village alone, just by himself, recover his bodies, use telekynesis, summone weird giandt 4 headed dogs, bring back to life his bodies which were dead like for 5 days.
    eh? And why is it so that 1 ninja is able to withstand a whole village?

    Thats plain stupid!
     
         

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    Dont understand very well, work on sentence phrasing. :D But what is ridiculous is Pain's "force push and pull" crap. It's really cheap.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopter View Post
    :mad:
    Don't you guys and girls think that Pain is kind of ridiculous.
    Or kishi is totally lacking logics.
    Why the heck does Pain need fillage if he can fight a village alone, just by himself, recover his bodies, use telekynesis, summone weird giandt 4 headed dogs, bring back to life his bodies which were dead like for 5 days.
    eh? And why is it so that 1 ninja is able to withstand a whole village?

    Thats plain stupid!

    Because he is like the most powerfull ninja in the world...
     
         

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    MY point was that Pain is a cheap character. I mean, I haven't really heard that any NINJA ( not 99 tailed demon sock) could withstand a whole village in a fight. Yeah, I mean wtf, this is crazy. Why does he need to lead akatsuki then? WHy does he need to control those beasts? He can defeat the whole world with his 6 bodies :D
    I mean, yeah!

    Even a 4th hokage, as far as I know, didnt attack the villages directly, killing everything in his path.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopter View Post
    MY point was that Pain is a cheap character. I mean, I haven't really heard that any NINJA ( not 99 tailed demon sock) could withstand a whole village in a fight. Yeah, I mean wtf, this is crazy. Why does he need to lead akatsuki then? WHy does he need to control those beasts? He can defeat the whole world with his 6 bodies :D
    I mean, yeah!

    Even a 4th hokage, as far as I know, didnt attack the villages directly, killing everything in his path.
    yes pain is a cheap character. I think he is foolish for single handedly attacking konoha, and will probably die without even seeing naruto. Yes a normal ninja wouldn't be able to stand up against a village, but once magic is involved people suddenly become much more powerfull, and the power difference's become alot greater. he wouldn't be able to take out the entire world. and the rinnegan sort of makes him as powerfull as an extremely powerfull demon. but yes he is cheap.

    also I don't think that the 4th was nearly as strong as pain is, but pain is too aragant.
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopter View Post
    :mad:
    Don't you guys and girls think that Pain is kind of ridiculous.
    Or kishi is totally lacking logics.
    Why the heck does Pain need fillage if he can fight a village alone, just by himself, recover his bodies, use telekynesis, summone weird giandt 4 headed dogs, bring back to life his bodies which were dead like for 5 days.
    eh? And why is it so that 1 ninja is able to withstand a whole village?

    Thats plain stupid!
    lol agreed dude
     
         

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    Pein is effectively 6 people, so Konoha isn't under attack by one Shinobi.. but seven including Konan.

    He's collecting Bijuu to cause wars and stuff, and to stage fights against them to make Akatsuki look like saviors... I mean, Pein can't do that by himself, if you think about it. He's the ONLY ONE who can solo an entire village, and if he goes and attacks a village by himself, how is he going to come off as the good guy?

    Also, if Pein attempts to control the world by himself, he'll be personally fighting every single village at once. He may be able to take out 2 of the top 5 villages before the other 3 go WTF and team up to defeat Pein.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xero View Post
    Pein is effectively 6 people, so Konoha isn't under attack by one Shinobi.. but seven including Konan.

    He's collecting Bijuu to cause wars and stuff, and to stage fights against them to make Akatsuki look like saviors... I mean, Pein can't do that by himself, if you think about it. He's the ONLY ONE who can solo an entire village, and if he goes and attacks a village by himself, how is he going to come off as the good guy?

    Also, if Pein attempts to control the world by himself, he'll be personally fighting every single village at once. He may be able to take out 2 of the top 5 villages before the other 3 go WTF and team up to defeat Pein.

    Well, after defeating a village, he will collect bodies of strong ninjas from these villages. And even if his 6 bodies will be defeated, he could use those dead ninja, to make another 6 controlled bodies. And so on.
    And the original him ( nagato the passive gay) will live in a very safe place or a bunker, made by himself.
    So how are the remaining 3 villages going to kill em?

    I mean, i knwo he wants to become a god. But why not to defeat all the villages and then just control them without those manipuation and war speculation stuff!


    And KOnan is not really a ninja. Just take a bottle of oil and throw at her. She will amsot die. lol. Is it a ninja? :D
     
         
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    Well he does have the most powerful eyes. So I guess they just want to show he's a badass so when Naruto kills him people will be like wow Naruto's a badass.
     
         

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    he can raze an entire village with his 6 bodies. thats how strong he is, with his rinnegan offcourse. thats ridiculous. but look what happened, he just attacked one big village and konoha is on the brink of solving his secret, how his zombie bodies work that is. also fighting is not yet finished, we havent yet seen other bigger ninjas apart from kakashi, and looks like one body (demon) is already down, 5 more to go.

    my point once he started attacking the bigger villages, there will be shinobis like jman who wud force him to leave clues and eventually his secret will be solved, and he (his 6 bodies that is) will be not as scary as he is now. then he will be forced to come out on his own, once his 6 bodies fighting style is negated.

    fighting 5 big countries at once and winning i dont see that happening, even for him. he hasnt beaten konoha yet.

    gathering all bijuus and make WMD is the only way to threaten and erase 5 big countries at once. his plan to monopolize the whole ninja market, that he revealed to his akatsuki colleagues, is fake. his original plan(if he didnt lie to jman) -




     
         

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    Even if they do take out some of the bodies he can make new ones!

    and the demon realm isnt dead. He can still fire the rockets at chouji.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopter View Post
    Even if they do take out some of the bodies he can make new ones!

    and the demon realm isnt dead. He can still fire the rockets at chouji.
    thats not what i meant, once they figure out how those zombies(6 bodies) work, they will be negated every time they are sent out to fight. thats what i think.

    i am not sure but demon realm is down i think, lets see the next chapter.

    look at the panel below. a piece of his head just dropped off. its an indication(i think) that he no longer works.
     
         
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    But haven't they already got this secret?
    I thought it is just the chakra recievers which help Pain control the bodies.
    All they need to do is to destroy or somehow take off these recievers.
    The question is how are they gonna do that? They don't have that kazekages ability to manipulate metal sand.

    * pic *
    Hm... now I see. But how did he fire the missiles at Chouji then?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopter View Post
    But haven't they already got this secret?
    I thought it is just the chakra recievers which help Pain control the bodies.
    All they need to do is to destroy or somehow take off these recievers.
    The question is how are they gonna do that? They don't have that kazekages ability to manipulate metal sand.

    * pic *
    Hm... now I see. But how did he fire the missiles at Chouji then?
    1)we havn't gotten all of his secrets yet, and we just learned about the chakra reciever's we just need to gather a bit more information about them and work out a plan.

    2)he fired his last missiles he had at chouji, after firing his last missiles he has nothing left, and even if he does have some left, there are just a tiny bit left and all of his limbs are gone so the body can't even go anywhere, therefor it is useless.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopter View Post
    But haven't they already got this secret?
    I thought it is just the chakra recievers which help Pain control the bodies.
    All they need to do is to destroy or somehow take off these recievers.
    The question is how are they gonna do that? They don't have that kazekages ability to manipulate metal sand.

    * pic *
    Hm... now I see. But how did he fire the missiles at Chouji then?
    no, not at all. there are many things that needs to be solved.

    since they are corpse and are received chakra, ques is who is sending chakra, is he nearby, how to find the source, how to disrupt the chakra flow to the bodies, can they disrupt the atmosphere around pain bodies so that bodies dont receive chakra (taking off that many receivers from body is not answer), how do they revive the bodies(jman incident, 3 were revived), etc.

    demon fired missile in previous chapter. looks like that was his last missile and now its reached its limit.
     
         

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    Guess that kinda makes sense. So they need to distupt the chakra flow do defeat that badass then...


    But assuming the god's realm has telekynesis he can repair the demon realm just by sticking the parts of the body together! And putting the recievers back in the body!

    But that depends on KIshimoto!
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopter View Post
    Guess that kinda makes sense. So they need to distupt the chakra flow do defeat that badass then...


    But assuming the god's realm has telekynesis he can repair the demon realm just by sticking the parts of the body together! And putting the recievers back in the body!

    But that depends on KIshimoto!
    but he cant give them missiles. its been exhausted. he needs to get back to that secret chamber to get those i think. also, the body seems to be mutilated(by choza's punch and kakashis raikiri), beyond repair.
     
         

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    Well pein didnt defeat konoha yet.....and a lot of the best shinobis from konoha didnt make their appearance also so its early to say pein can destroy a village all by himself.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiBi View Post
    Well pein didnt defeat konoha yet.....and a lot of the best shinobis from konoha didnt make their appearance also so its early to say pein can destroy a village all by himself.
    Pain could probably completely destroy any of the smaller countries, probably not the sound though, too many curse seal, and made completely of water freaks there.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neutrino00 View Post
    Pain could probably completely destroy any of the smaller countries, probably not the sound though, too many curse seal, and made completely of water freaks there.
    the sound? O_o
    i dont even think the sound exists anymore now that orochimaru is dead, kabuto went missing and sasuke freed all the prisoners oro had Oo
     
         

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    Well then, we have to wait for the manga to see if Pain realy can defeat konoha.

    But... I HAVE NOT stated that Pain defeated KOnoha. I said that he can fight the whole village, any other ninja would be defeated by the time i think.

    But what is also ridicuous. Don't the other strong ninja * guy neji who else? * see that kakashi's in trouble and help? Reminds me of you know, fighting with someone to the death while 100 of your friends are watching you. I mean, couldnt all the jonin attack him silmountaniously?

    also, the body seems to be mutilated(by choza's punch and kakashis raikiri), beyond repair.
    Remmber the fight vs a j-man? he killed the 3 bodies, pierced them with sth, but they went back to life! Raikiri can do a damage but chouzas strikes kinda are big but dont hurt. They're like useless.
    PLus, as far as i remember... wssnt that demon ream whos main abiity was to block a the attacks? If so, missiles is only a pat of his abiities.



    Konoha has only close ange strong shinobi left now. Well it is neji, guy and tsunade. IM not counting noobs like kiba or sakura cuz shes always afraid.
    And god realm uses telekynesis to separate close range from himself thus throwing some weird things like nail at them. SO i don't see how are they gonna defeat Pain, really. But they will somehow :D

    Btw, dont forget about another 4 bodies. About 3or 4 headed dogs, ghost realm, genjustsu realm. and 1 more summoner...
     
         

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    demon can only throw explosives, fat pain can absorb any ninjutsu. we donno how pain revive other bodies, but it seems god/deva realm left the body without reparing it, thinking its of no use other than few remaining missiles.



    i think pain is gonna pay the price by appearing in konoha, giving imp clues(like showing summoner girl's face, heating chakra receiver) and he is gonna leave konoha (if he can) with his secrets revealed.

    but nagato will remain untouchable at the moment, only be defeated by naruto in future (my prediction)
     
         

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