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    Maybe naruto controlling kyubii is simpler than we thought?

    The demon fox doesnt appear to be too happy that madara controlled him to do his bidding, and im sure that is why naruto has trouble controlling him too, because he simply wants to get out and do his own thing, however were missing a rather obvious point as the reader we know all the information that most characters don't

    For example only a few knew madara controlled the 9tails, and most are dead or not allies.

    Naruto certainly doesnt know tobi is madara.

    Im sure the 9tails will follow what naruto says if naruto find out who tobi is and says "as long as i control you, and you dont overtake my body, i will allow you to use your power through me to kill madara"

    even better is this ties in nicely with itachis gift maybe.

    Itachis gift could simply be a way (as ive stated before) that madara cannot control the kyubii, and naruto as a medium keeps the fox safe from being controlled (therefore naruto) and the fox's power symbiotically keeps naruto safe with its amazing power.

    The kyubii has been seen as a horrible entity in naruto, but in reality it theoretically can work as a perfect symbiotic system.

    Im also sure the key was given to open up the kyubiis full potential once this pact and agreement was made.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    The demon fox doesnt appear to be too happy that madara controlled him to do his bidding, and im sure that is why naruto has trouble controlling him too, because he simply wants to get out and do his own thing, however were missing a rather obvious point as the reader we know all the information that most characters don't

    For example only a few knew madara controlled the 9tails, and most are dead or not allies.

    Naruto certainly doesnt know tobi is madara.

    Im sure the 9tails will follow what naruto says if naruto find out who tobi is and says "as long as i control you, and you dont overtake my body, i will allow you to use your power through me to kill madara"

    even better is this ties in nicely with itachis gift maybe.

    Itachis gift could simply be a way (as ive stated before) that madara cannot control the kyubii, and naruto as a medium keeps the fox safe from being controlled (therefore naruto) and the fox's power symbiotically keeps naruto safe with its amazing power.

    The kyubii has been seen as a horrible entity in naruto, but in reality it theoretically can work as a perfect symbiotic system.

    Im also sure the key was given to open up the kyubiis full potential once this pact and agreement was made.
    about dat
    when naruto encounterd tobi
    If madra is tobi
    y did'nt kyubi recongize that certain chakra signature
     
         

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    I think it may did, but it actually is afraid of madara to don't take control of him while he's weak cause he's in naruto's body
     
         

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    Yes i was thinking about that saku when writing this, but i had no idea how to explain it.

    But yes it is admittedly worrying to see the fox not even recognise madaras chakra, especially considering weve now seen the fox reject pa toad without naruto even turning a slight bit, which suggests the kyubiis chakra is free running and has some form of slight gap through minatos seal.

    Yes very worrying...

    It could simply be a missed hole by kishi, and it is madara, or it could be something more sinister or twist-like.

    To be fair madara has more secrecy than others, even pain who had some secrecy wasnt as much as tobi/madara, its as if kishi wants us to question his character whereas pain was simply pain.
     
         

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    mabye toib is a fusion of madra and some one else
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAKumono26 View Post
    mabye toib is a fusion of madra and some one else
    madara + obito
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAKumono26 View Post
    about dat
    when naruto encounterd tobi
    If madra is tobi
    y did'nt kyubi recongize that certain chakra signature
    hinata was there and she has byakugan..
    she cud see if tobi had enourmess amount of chakra..
    even kakashi's sharingan can see chakra.. so far tobi still is a mysterie..
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    Yes i was thinking about that saku when writing this, but i had no idea how to explain it.

    But yes it is admittedly worrying to see the fox not even recognise madaras chakra, especially considering weve now seen the fox reject pa toad without naruto even turning a slight bit, which suggests the kyubiis chakra is free running and has some form of slight gap through minatos seal.

    Yes very worrying...

    It could simply be a missed hole by kishi, and it is madara, or it could be something more sinister or twist-like.

    To be fair madara has more secrecy than others, even pain who had some secrecy wasnt as much as tobi/madara, its as if kishi wants us to question his character whereas pain was simply pain.
    I don't think the Kyuubi constantly moniters Naruto's actions and surroundings. Becuase everytime we see Naruto interact with him he opens his eyes like he's been sleeping.
    But if Naruto and the Kyuubi got along they could absolutly kill anyone.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandshark View Post
    I don't think the Kyuubi constantly moniters Naruto's actions and surroundings. Becuase everytime we see Naruto interact with him he opens his eyes like he's been sleeping.
    But if Naruto and the Kyuubi got along they could absolutly kill anyone.
    Then why is he repelling pa toad so easily? he must surely sense whats going on around naruto, and scenes have even shown he can hear whats happening around naruto.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    The demon fox doesnt appear to be too happy that madara controlled him to do his bidding, and im sure that is why naruto has trouble controlling him too, because he simply wants to get out and do his own thing, however were missing a rather obvious point as the reader we know all the information that most characters don't

    For example only a few knew madara controlled the 9tails, and most are dead or not allies.

    Naruto certainly doesnt know tobi is madara.

    Im sure the 9tails will follow what naruto says if naruto find out who tobi is and says "as long as i control you, and you dont overtake my body, i will allow you to use your power through me to kill madara"

    even better is this ties in nicely with itachis gift maybe.

    Itachis gift could simply be a way (as ive stated before) that madara cannot control the kyubii, and naruto as a medium keeps the fox safe from being controlled (therefore naruto) and the fox's power symbiotically keeps naruto safe with its amazing power.

    The kyubii has been seen as a horrible entity in naruto, but in reality it theoretically can work as a perfect symbiotic system.

    Im also sure the key was given to open up the kyubiis full potential once this pact and agreement was made.
    If naruto controls the fox demon, it isn't really any different from when Madara controlled him. also the gift Itachi gave naruto was something to protect Konoha from sasuke should sasuke be manipulated into attacking konoha.
     
         

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    As soon as i saw the thread... and i saw it was from twistedlink i knew it was worth reading... and i was right...

    you make great theories man...

    ive made a few of those points before myself....

    Reps... lol :D
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neutrino00 View Post
    If naruto controls the fox demon, it isn't really any different from when Madara controlled him. also the gift Itachi gave naruto was something to protect Konoha from sasuke should sasuke be manipulated into attacking konoha.

    True, but its not controlling, its a symbiotic relationship, it appears him and the fox have one sort of already, naruto borrows his power, and in return naruto cant die and as thus the fox stays safe, its in both there interests to work together.

    sage kyuubi i cant tell if youre being sarcastic or not
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    True, but its not controlling, its a symbiotic relationship, it appears him and the fox have one sort of already, naruto borrows his power, and in return naruto cant die and as thus the fox stays safe, its in both there interests to work together.

    sage kyuubi i cant tell if youre being sarcastic or not
    lol...
    Not being sarcastic...
    I AM Being serious...
     
         

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