View Poll Results: this proves the rinnegan can use mixed nature types

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by laxus View Post
    Yin to make his dreams take form, and then used Yang to make his fantasies real. He could even make them come to life.
    thank you
    also not every ninja has it
    you relize that right
    That's suppose to be your reference?

    You don't get my point. There are 6 basic chakra types. It's been said clear as day in the page I posted above.

    What is the 6th element then? Tell me this. You can't can you? Because by answering me you'd be disproving your own theory. The 6th is Yin-Yang Release
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by Jokule67 View Post
    its actually very simple. people think all kg are genetically passed down. NO PEOPLE only kimimaru,'s clan and doujutsu are genetic. kg are secret techniques passed down. u think durai is related 2 the third? no and he still got black lightning. onoki aint related 2 muu and he as jinton.

    ALL IT IS IS COMBINING NATURE TYPES WHICH THE RINNEGAN ALLOWS !!!!!!!!!!!

    YAMATO CLEARLY EXPLAINED IT. He put water based chakra in one hand and earth in the other and made a hand seal. ALAKAZAM ITS WOOD.
    You too?

    They may not be passed down directly, but they are genetic.

    Just because you have 2 elements doesn't mean you can combine them. Yamato states this. The reason he can combine them is because he has the Kekkei Genkai to make Wood. Read the page again if you don't believe me because I'm tired of posting it for everyone.
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/375/11
    Jiraiya states the Rinnegan allowed the use of all 6 chakra types. What's the 6th? Yin? no Yang? It was neither. It was Yin-Yang. That is the 6th chakra type. It's not an advanced chakra.

    Give me a reference where it clearly states that Yin-Yang is an advanced chakra type. I've given my facts already in the form of manga pages. Now it's your turn.
    kekkei genkai include mixing one type of elemental chakra with another, creating a new one unique to the users, which is usually impossible for normal ninja
    Yet other kekkei genkai seem to appear in individuals with no known relation, such as the Lava Release, which has appeared in ninja from Kirigakure, Iwagakure, and Kumogakure, while Magnet Release, which has appeared in ninja from both Kumogakure and Sunagakure.
    this is from wiki you don't need relatives for that
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by Jokule67 View Post
    its actually very simple. people think all kg are genetically passed down. NO PEOPLE only kimimaru,'s clan and doujutsu are genetic. kg are secret techniques passed down. u think durai is related 2 the third? no and he still got black lightning. onoki aint related 2 muu and he as jinton.

    ALL IT IS IS COMBINING NATURE TYPES WHICH THE RINNEGAN ALLOWS !!!!!!!!!!!

    YAMATO CLEARLY EXPLAINED IT. He put water based chakra in one hand and earth in the other and made a hand seal. ALAKAZAM ITS WOOD.
    your right
    but he was technically related though
    but other don't need relatives
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by laxus View Post
    kekkei genkai include mixing one type of elemental chakra with another, creating a new one unique to the users, which is usually impossible for normal ninja
    Yet other kekkei genkai seem to appear in individuals with no known relation, such as the Lava Release, which has appeared in ninja from Kirigakure, Iwagakure, and Kumogakure, while Magnet Release, which has appeared in ninja from both Kumogakure and Sunagakure.
    this is from wiki you don't need relatives for that
    Yes. I know what a Kekkei Genkai is.

    You keep avoiding my question though.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/375/11
    Jiraiya himself says Nagato was able to use all 6 chakra types.

    If you're arguing that Yin-Yang Release is an advanced chakra, then that implies that you need 2 basic types to combine in order to make it, correct? Then tell me, what is the 6th basic type?
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by laxus View Post
    kekkei genkai include mixing one type of elemental chakra with another, creating a new one unique to the users, which is usually impossible for normal ninja
    wrong
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by Timiursa View Post
    wrong
    That's actually correct :/

    Wind + Water = Ice
    Water + Lightning = Storm
    etc
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    Yes. I know what a Kekkei Genkai is.

    You keep avoiding my question though.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/375/11
    Jiraiya himself says Nagato was able to use all 6 chakra types.

    If you're arguing that Yin-Yang Release is an advanced chakra, then that implies that you need 2 basic types to combine in order to make it, correct? Then tell me, what is the 6th basic type?
    i went to the page
    the 6 element are using yin and also yang seperate
    but the thing is he is combining them
    so e basicaly made a new nature type which is yin yang release which is izangi
    do you get my point
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by laxus View Post
    i went to the page
    the 6 element are using yin and also yang seperate
    but the thing is he is combining them
    so e basicaly made a new nature type which is yin yang release which is izangi
    do you get my point
    So you're telling me the 6th element is Yin AND Yang huh?

    You realize that would make it 7. Not 6 basic types.
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    So you're telling me the 6th element is Yin AND Yang huh?

    You realize that would make it 7. Not 6 basic types.
    that is not basic but falls under yin yang instead of basic
    the reason why is he is combining spiritual with physical making a new release
    yin yang release
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    like the 2nd mizukage he's using yin not using yin yang
    because you don't get itnaturally like that if you have one
    so nagato can have yin and yang but it would neccsesarily give him the ability to use them both at the same time unless you're able to manipulate the nature types
    making it to a new one
     
         
    Last edited by laxus; 09-08-2011 at 10:48 PM.

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    well the sage of six path has unlimited izunage , and he has the rinnegan , so this kinda makes sense , plus nagato never came near mastering the rinnegan .
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by laxus View Post
    that is not basic but falls under yin yang instead of basic
    the reason why is he is combining spiritual with physical making a new release
    yin yang release
    You're arguments keep going in a loop.

    You're saying Yin-Yang Release is an advance chakra type. Now you're saying that the 2 chakras that make it aren't basic and fall under Yin-Yang Release. You don't make any sense.


    The fact is there are 6 basic nature types. There's no doubting it. It's stated in text as clear as day.

    What is the 6th? The answer is Yin-Yang Release. It is not an advanced chakra type. The reason why people can use Yin and Yang separately is because Yin-Yang Release is the 6th nature type.


    -Yin Release is used for genjutsu among other things.
    -Yang Release is used for techniques such as the Nara clan's shadow mimic, and Akimichi clan's size manipulation technique.

    There are 6 types in total. You can't count Yin and Yang as separate nature types because that makes 7. The only logical answer is that Yin-Yang Release is itself the 6th nature type and people manipulate it to draw out either Yin or Yang Release.
     
         
    Last edited by NLee; 09-08-2011 at 10:51 PM.

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    nagato didn't use nature tech that much but used the six path
    because of it benefits
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    You're arguments keep going in a loop.

    You're saying Yin-Yang Release is an advance chakra type. Now you're saying that the 2 chakras that make it aren't basic and fall under Yin-Yang Release. You don't make any sense.


    The fact is there are 6 basic nature types. There's no doubting it. It's stated in text as clear as day.

    What is the 6th? The answer is Yin-Yang Release. It is not an advanced chakra type. The reason why people can use Yin and Yang separately is because Yin-Yang Release is the 6th nature type.


    -Yin Release is used for genjutsu among other things.
    -Yang Release is used for techniques such as the Nara clan's shadow mimic, and Akimichi clan's size manipulation technique.

    There are 6 types in total. You can't count Yin and Yang as separate nature types because that makes 7. The only logical answer is that Yin-Yang Release is itself the 6th nature type and people manipulate it to draw out either Yin or Yang.
    you relize that you're manipulating nature types right to form a new one
    yin yang will not fall in basic because it's orginally from yin and yang nature types=so the classsification would be seperate
    only the two which are yin and yang are the one nature types but not all three because you're manipulating them to form a new one
    when you combine things you get a new thing which is yin yang release
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by laxus View Post
    nagato didn't use nature tech that much but used the six path
    because of it benefits
    What does that have anything to do with our discussion?
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    What does that have anything to do with our discussion?
    saying why nagato wasn't using that much nature types
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    cya later
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    Quote Originally Posted by laxus View Post
    you relize that you're manipulating nature types right to form a new one
    yin yang will not fall in basic because it's orginally from yin and yang nature types=so the classsification would be seperate
    only the two which are yin and yang are the one nature types but not all three because you're manipulating them to form a new one
    when you combine things you get a new thing which is yin yang release
    Like I mentioned, you're argument isn't staying consistant.

    Like before, Yin and Yang can't be both considered separate chakra types because that makes a total of 7.

    It's not:
    1. Water
    2. Wind
    3. Earth
    4. Lightning
    5. Fire
    6. Yin
    7. Yang

    That totals 7. Not 6, and we know there are 6.

    It's:
    1. Water
    2. Wind
    3. Earth
    4. Lightning
    5. Fire
    6. _________

    The 6th has to be Yin-Yang Release by process of elimination. If you're combining 2 types to make a new type, then you need 2 of the 6 basic types. It's just like you said, you're combining 2 types to make a new advanced type. That is where my point is. There is only room left for 1 more basic chakra type, and therefore by simple logic Yin and Yang cannot be the 2 basic types that form Yin-Yang Release.

    The only explanation is that Yin-Yang itself is the 6th basic type.
     
         

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    Re: the rinnegan can combine two elements just look at izangi

    if that was true than everyone would have yin tech would have yang with it
    they classify them seperate
    yin yang release is a manipulation of two different release resorting to a new one

    but with them combined you get yin yang release
    you can't call a technique it's only one part of an element when there were two release to make a new oneor an element that uses yin that it's from yin yang
    you're pratically saying evey jutsu with yin has yang=which equal every yang jutsu has yin in it when it doesn't work like that.
     
         

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