Re: General Football Debates!
I probably wasn't that clear on this. I meant SAF, in a interview after the final last season said he has never beaten Barcelona. That's why I was making sure, I was also sure he did beat them but I think what he meant is that he never beat them in the finals with his Man U team :p victory in the final is much different than one in knockout stages, friendlies or even league.
Originally Posted by Escorpiius
LOL I don't know how I missed Madrid :p but yes they are also favs.
Well they can be rumours or they can't be we all will find out in a few years maybe :p It would be great to see CR7 back with Man U, personally I thought he should have stayed with them from the start. Ronaldo is about money, no offense to his team as majority of the players are but will see soon enought what CR7 does with his career, I think he may leave Madrid this year if no success or even next year.
Eto'o is amazing can't believe Barcelona let him go for Ibra, they let Eto'o go and they lost to Inter and never captured the UEFA CL, if Eto'o was there story could have been different. Even Messi told, Pep not to sell Eto'o but Pep had to do what he thought would have been good. They will soon enough need someone to take over for Villa.
Now time for my lecture/analysis/thoughts/opinions on last night and todays games :p
Well this game was a little entertaining but at the same time not quiet at the level we'd expect it to be. I agree with one of the peoples comments in this thread regrading Barcelona they start off every game in the first 5-10 mins, not as themselves, it's happened in all the Madrid games where you see Madrid on a full out attack and even in the final VS Man U. Their just like that I guess, but today it cost them with Pato wonderful goal and it was the 5th fast goal scored in a CL game. When I saw Sergio B and Mascherano as central defence I was like, "wtf?", than I saw Keita instead of Sergio B or even Cesc being there. I had a feeling things wouldn't turn out too good. Barcelona should have put Abidal in CB with Mascherano instead and put Sergio B in as either LB or swapped with Keita. Mascherano isn't my fav but he has some talent but lacks in height and his strength is decent but will have a problem when facing bigger oppenonts, Sergio B lacks in speed and strength IMO. The one thing for sure is Barcelona defense wasn't at it's best, Milan should have taken this game by at least a goal. We will just wait and see there next few CL games till the collide again, so will see if there is any changes in there style and game,next time. In Barcelona and Milan's case lucky for them everyone had a draw, not that it would have been a problem :p
This game was also quiet good but also some what boring. I thought Dortmund had this wrapped up but Wenger side fought and kept themselves still alive and hope for CL. I think Arsenal should finish around at least second, if not first, but will have problem in knock out stages, lets hope they don't get Barcelona again :p
I just saw Chelsea line and wow, never thought how rigged there team is LOL old but still have plenty of talent there. Torres set up both goals, still has only scored about 2 goals in 1000+ mins but at least Mata is on fire, they should cruise by there group games.
Another great game was shocked to see Hulk (Porto) miss the PK his side got, after that miss, Shaktar opened the scoring. Shaktar is one tough club, notice them last year during the CL campaign especially against Barcelona, I remember last year they lost there first game VS Arsenal 6 or 7 - 0. Shaktar as some great young talents and so does Porto will be a great fight between them in the group. Hulk from Porto is one guy I admire, I believe he needs to move to somewhere in Serie A, La Liga, EPL, or even Germany, this guys is a great striker and can be a big help to some heavyweight clubs.
How'd they lose? Can't believe Inter opens this CL group by losing most likely will end up like last year second place? may get first, won't be a shock with they finish third of forth. It sucks for them that Forlan cannot play until Jan. or Feb. if I'm not mistaken.
Another pretty good game, I'd expect more from this Bayern side but they walked away with a win and Villarreal showed some fighting spirit. Gossi should have moved to Serie A side IMO, will be gone next year for sure. I know Bayern will get first in this group, second place is still up for grab IMO.
Man City dominated possession wise but I'd say Napoli was much more fierce/deadly when it came to getting chances. This game ended in a draw, like most games. I can't believe Man City wanted to buy Cavani for 15 million, he is much more than that at least 25-30 million and now they know why :p He's been playing well in the last few years not only club wise but national also. David Silva was impressed me a lot in the past few years, his partnership with Nasri, Aguero will reach new Silva IMO will be the possible replacement for Inesita national wise. Mancini pretty much told Barcelona and Madrid that he was shocked they never tried getting him, I mean now he opened the door for both them, I bet next year one of them will bid for him and Silva will join, Madrid maybe I see him mostly with Barcelona bring back Silva-Villa days :p just an opinion Silva/Cesc next Inesita/Xavi, maybe? maybe not. In all congratsto both sides and players scoring there first CL goal lol walked away with a tie game
I told you Escorpiius Benfica will be a problem for Man U on this group. I know Man U can brush them off easily, but they showed a fighting team, today. The two favs for their group. Giggs is, "Still the oldest man to score in CL." Great game and ManU will most likely thrash Benfica next game, at least my opinion.
I have to give respect to Kelava, Dinamo GK, played outstanding against Madrid. If he keeps this up soon europes heavywieghts will gun for him, as most teams GK are getting old (ManU and Bayern are fine atm). So, did anyone catch Mercelo's dive? Of course he got his second yellow and than a red :p Madrid is the side that complains about Barcelona diving :p I know you like this Escorpiius lol We've been over this a million times and wrote frigging articles regrading this but will stick with the VRP opinion Mercelo dive was just a sad thing to do against a team like Dimano. However I bet Mourinho and Madrid aren't only upset with him but also the result they won but still performed not too good or maybe it was just the GK.
The next fixture that will be entertaining is Man City VS Bayern, I will pick Bayern in this game most goals be scored 4 and least 1, Man City will score 1 or 2 maybe but I think Bayern will still get the victory unless we see a whole new Man City side.
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