I read both of those books in high school, then again when I took a Greek & Roman Mythology course in college. Pretty entertaining books. Interesting to say the least.
Originally Posted by LAD13
That is the wrong answer, sir. You can not "make" other people believe in your beliefs(if that is what you meant). Trying to force beliefs on others NEVER turns out positive results...only bitterness and hatred that gets passed down.
Originally Posted by Thunderbolt
As Christians, our job is to offer to show someone The Way. The best we can do is "plant the seed" and be there for them as long as they are willing to allow us to share in their lives.
Please remember what Paul the Apostle said in 1 Corinthians 3:6-7(from the NIV version):
"I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow."
I have to agree with you on that one.
Originally Posted by IntrovertedKittenNinja
Romans 12:17-19(NIV version):
"Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord."
2 Timothy 2:23-24(NIV version):
"Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful."
Hebrews 12:14(NIV version):
"Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord."
Actually, you did call religious people uneducated. Please look at this:
Originally Posted by 8thHokage
Now please read the definition for ignorant according to Mirriam-Webster:
Originally Posted by 8thHokage
This is just one example--I can pull up others later if you really want me to. Both "destitute of knowledge or education(uneducated)" and "uninformed" are part of the definition.
You are still being offensive by implying that people of faith have some kind of deficiency in their mental capabilities for believing something that you don't. That makes you sound no better than anyone else who "pushes their belief" onto people. If you don't agree, fine. You can disagree without being condescending or insulting.
There is simply not enough time to go through the history of all of the events you listed. I will again say this: these events were NOT about religion...they were about POWER. I have studied the history of these events for years. In depth. I highly suggest you go back and redo your research. If you still don't agree, then I humbly request that we simply agree to disagree.
You say you have read the bible. No offense, but I question that statement. Most people who rebuke the bible(especially when they start talking about the "violence" the bible promotes)--are people have NOT actually sat down and read the bible all the way through. (To Everyone)Some of you may be thinking to yourselves, "who sits down and reads the bible all the way through". I understand...it is a VERY large book. It took me two months to read through the New Testament alone(the old is roughly 2.5x the size of the New). But consider this: when you receive a letter(or in these days--email or test) from someone...do you only read part of it? or the whole thing? Do you randomly select certain words or phrases and base your understanding of the entire message on those selected words/phrases? I will *safely* assume the answer is "NO". That is what the vast majority of people who speak out against the bible have done today. It is impossible to sit down and read the bible, cover-to-cover, and say that the bible is about violence, intolerance, bigotry, or any number of immoral, unfavorable behavior that humans have a tendency to exhibit. The flaw is in the messengers(humans), not the message(Bible).
To you sir, I suggest you go back and study the bible, because here is one of the numerous passages about the kind of life a true Christian is supposed to lead:
Galatians 5:22-26(NIV version):
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other."
Before you respond, please consider this:
James 2:19-20(from the NIV version):
"My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to be if they are religious and believe the bible is the word of god than they are ignorant and unintelligent in a sensecome angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires."
A blessed day is day where your spirit is truly at peace and full of joy. Where the simple problems of the world have no effect or bearing on the peace and joy you carry within you. Having said that, I pray you have a blessed day.