Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions
Yeah I understand that, but I wanted to post the correct information anyway.
The Maxwills guy mentioned that Tobirama invented the reaper death seal. and i was correcting him thats why i said what i had to say. Here is the evidence that shows what he said
The reason why they can't go against Kabuto is because their will is taken away. So even though a few of them wanted to do something other than fight for Kabuto (it even talks about this as the war plays out), they could not do so because Kabuto bound his will to the talismans which overrode theirs, forcing them to do what he wanted them to do.
Nahh if they were then they all should have gone against kabuto's will which they could not.And if they had full consciousness then the Edo Tensei would be useless
Yeah, which could be a translation error, they've been known to happen. Even if it really did say 'consciousness' it could still be an error on Kishi's part, those have happened too. The point I'm trying to make is that there is a fundamental difference between 'consciousness' and 'will.' All of the people Kabuto summoned with Edo Tensei were fully aware of their actions and what was going on around them.
Yes it did Kishi included the part where the tuschikage mentions his consciousness coming back. What ever kishi says in his story one will not change it. it is because in the, the story he is God. We can't make up what he says. Take a good look at this page and if you don't get it i ask if you can read it again or check other translations
Yet you even said yourself that their wills were bound by Kabuto.
1. Will/wil - Verb: Intend, desire, or wish (something) to happen: "he was doing what the saint willed".
2. con·scious·ness - Noun: The state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings.
The awareness or perception of something by a person.
So can you see how some of the people summoned by Edo Tensei were conscious, but still bound by Kabuto's will? It's either a mistranslation or a grammatical error.
Just to drive this point home one final time, let's assume that Knowledge God is correct, that the soul, spirit, and mind were all separate things. Now, let's say that Orochimaru went to switch bodies with someone. What happens if he takes his spirit to the new body, but leaves his mind and his soul behind?
It was explained by orochimaru that the soul/ spirit of the person disappears once he has taken over the body. If the soul is left then that must mean that orochimaru's old body is still alive. Which doesn't make sense. Also the use of word logic at every post you post is annoying
There would literally be zero point to that technique because if the old body was dying (which is why he would switch to begin with) then his soul and mind would die too. Having his spirit in a new body would do nothing without the mind and soul (if they were separate things).
Instead, the jutsu works by switching EVERYTHING to the new body, overriding all existing things. This way the new body becomes the same for the user as the old body was. This is why the technical points are irrelevant, even if you could explain the difference between a mind, a soul, and a spirit.
Edo Madara never met Tobi after he was summoned by Kabuto, so he would have no knowledge of Kabuto showing Tobi how to release Edo Tensei. In addition, you're forgetting that one of the most basic functions of the Sharingan is to analyze and copy how techniques work. Itachi himself trapped Kabuto in a genjutsu and forced him to show Itachi the hand signs to release Edo Tensei.
I really doubt that. 2nd hokage was popular during his time from those who are mentioning his name, we see any 1st kage mention or while he was with the first. kabuto lied to tobi or gave half a truth, there a seal shown at the end of there conversation like I mentioned b4 that is probably what madara is talking about and also forget at one point after there agreement both allied after they settled there beef so it could have something the uchiha helped developed. Even though hashirama was the first hokage from wha t we have seen there is a penel he could have been on there till he went rouge.
Madara, at any time during his life, could have learned everything there is to know about Edo Tensei, either through battle, from intel by a 3rd party, or through the corpse of Tobirama. It's not a plot hole for Madara to have this knowledge, and just because it's not explicitly explained at this point in time, doesn't mean it never will be.