Re: (Updated)Proof that kakashi>sasuke
I'm glad you're not as zealous as flcl724.
Originally Posted by Rafeal brown
So did Kakashi's. During his second meeting with Itachi, he asked Itachi how far his vision has deteriorated, hinting he knows about it. Itachi reacted with disbelief, because he figured out Kakashi had got MS.
i just want to point a few things out here...
Yes, sasuke never became completely blind but his eye sight grew worse from using the ms, that should be basic knowledge by now...
I'm talking here about drastic vision deterioration that occured only after Sasuke shot 2 arrows at Kakashi. Before that his vision was deteriorating gradually, but not drastically.
I disagree with most of it, but you've got the point with Manda and Tsukyomi. However, it's still not that obvious - Danzo noted how Sasuke's genjutsu was nothing compared to Itachi's.
Sasuke's genjutsu is obviously better than kakashi's... What are you talking about??? Sasuke tamed a boss summon (manda), fooled two s class ninjas; danzo and deidara with genjutsus..., paralysed shee, suppressed the nine tails chakra and was even keeping up with itachi in genjutsu while kakashi couldn't and got one shotted by tsukuyomi... Is this even worth arguing? Sasuke has tsukuyomi... One of the strongest genjutsu in the narutoverse and what kind of genjutsu does kakashi has to match that??
Besides, Kakashi is also proficient with genjutsu, definitely enough to resist all of Sasuke's genjutsu (as even Itachi said Kakashi can resist many genjutsu thanks to Sharingan) and not fall into Tsukyomi again. In this case, Kakashi's statement: "The same trick won't work for me twice" is true.
All this time I'm speaking about MS Sasuke, not EMS.
Sasuke getting blind doesn't matter anymore since he now has EMS.... Which is the highest level of the sharingan... That already place him above kakashi...
If anyone would go blind here it's definitely kakashi who's been spamming kamui recently...
Cheers for being reasonable and rep+ for genjutsu argument!
And now... back to you *sigh*
Sakura is the strongest ninja Sasuke has faced ever! It's not like... I don't know... Kakashi got him by surprise, right?
you take everythign someone says and take it out of content. he had his eyes on until he ran outa charka, when have u seen sasuke fight a strong ninja w/o shar eyes. dont worry ill wait
Are you serious? 0_0
once again i said show me a scan saying kakashi saying that he can use kamui 4-5 times b4 sasuke got ems. you should me how kakashi was at half charka
Interesting opinion. Nothing to back it back, though.
first sakura then kakashi if not for naruto
You lose horribly, he didn't MISS, it was stopped by Tobi and that's a whole different story. If Sasuke gets Tobi space-time ninjutsu, then we can talk.
Because Sasuke can easily evade something FASTER than Susanoo's arrows, INSTANT in fact! No problem!
kakashi is not killing sasuke with kamui is what im getting at, mr fanboy
Is Tobi and Zetsu part of Sasuke's power? 0_o I don't think so. I don't know how much more clear I have to be for you to understand. I'm starting to doubt it's even possible.
k kakashi can solo sasuke susanno+tobi+zetsu
sounds about right
Water Prison was dangerous for 12-year olds, not Kakashi. Zabuza would have to cancel it to finish Kakashi anyway.
here we go again with the saveing. not even going to show in the manga where kakashi was saved by 12 year olds.
This will probably be too complicated for a thick-skulled person like you, but I will try anyway:
lmao so danzo let sasuke kill him, because danzo wanted to die right.
Danzo knows if he wastes all power on Sasuke, Tobi will crush him. That's obvious. So instead, Danzo decides to take a risk and not use all of his power on Sasuke, in order to be able to fend off Tobi later.
In other words, going all out would surely result in Danzo's death while conserving his strength would give him some chance of survival. What is more smart?
Look up. Besides, the pages I have presented CLEARLY STATE DANZO WASN'T GOING ALL OUT. You can argue with me, but problably you should go to Kishi with this.
danzo wanted to die, thank you for inlighting me kakashi fanboy