Re: So Madara died 16 years ago?
Nah, I think you're getting it mixed up. At this point, I doubt we'll agree about this part. I'll just counter 1 last time.
Originally Posted by Noddy
Edo Tensei is a jutsu that summons one in the state they were in right before they died, exactly at that moment.
Hence, Itachi still had his eyes, Deidara had a physical form.
Madara's apperance matches the way he looked at death. Meaning he was young (relatively at least), he never reached Hiruzen's age, hence he doesn't appear like that.
Also, Kabuto never knew that Madara had awakened Rinnegan, there's proof this - it's why Madara responds, "no you didn't give me this power, I awakened these eyes before I died". Kabuto had assumed that Rinnegan was his doing.
The only Madara Kabuto knows is the EMS Madara, or Madara from his "Golden Years".
The only modification Kabuto made to Madara was Hashirama's cells and he assumed that he gave him Rinnegan somehow, hence "beyond prime", Rinnegan + Hashirama's cells/techniques > EMS alone.
Either way, Kishi has f*cked up the story.
Kishimoto can hardly retcon at statement he made in person, especially since it was made after the Tobi-Nagato-Rinnegan statement. Regardless of manga logic interms of a person awakening the Rinnegan, Madara knew Nagato but he also knew Tobi. One statement is going to get retconned, and I doubt it's going to be the 'Tobi and Madara know eachother'; rather, the 'Nagato was given the Rinnegan'.
It's either Kishi entirely screws up the entire mythology behind the series - the Sage, his sons + lineage. Not to mention the entire nature of Dojutsu, Edo Tensei's working etc.
by extending Madara's timeline to the last Shinobi war
Or paints Minato, Itachi and several other characters to be idiots. Ruins timeline with inconsistent ages and story events. And finds an implausible way for Obito to have drastically improved in skill within 1 year.
by not extending Madara's timeline to the last Shinobi war