Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions
Originally Posted by Whiteknight
Some answers to your questions are answerable (not all though)... wait while I cast my genjutsu on u to answer some (keep looing at d dots........ .................................................. ........... (notice where d spaces are? gd boy, those are plot holes the rest of the dots are common reasoning)
1) Madara set up akatsuki and Nagato and Yahiko were running it first as a war organisation until Danzo and Hanzo F'd them up... Then Madara told Obito everything he has planned and set up. After training Obito, he (Obito later came back in pretence as Madara and took over akatsuki again) and then started pulling the strings the way Madara had instructed him to, in order to guide the organisation to help his Moon eye plan
2) No that is just lame, Madara later died... and note that it is the Stem of hashirama cells (the translation is wrong) that Madara is connected to in order to help him live longer (he was tapping into the long life of the senju clan through the cells)... Nagato summoned Gedo Mazo after he matured and trained himself to master the rennigan more, and he needed time to use it (u cant just summon mazo without knowing its full use and how to use it and just start sucking Bijuus), btw he needed the other strong akatsuki members to assemble/gather and have strong bases to use it to suck bijuus because it needed concentration and a lot of chakra to do so.
2a) No I have explained it above in answer 2
2b) Nagato might have or might not have known that he was meant to resurrect Madara, but after training Obito and telling him all his plans in details through the sharingan, Obito became stronger and assumed Madara's position as the akatsuki leader whilst pretending to be Madara, and he started guiding the organisation and manipulating Nagato... He was later meant to manipulate Nagato when the time was right to resurrect Madara (may be when nagato was strong enough to use the chakra from all the bijuus to cast the resurrection jutsu without dying)
2c) Obviously, if Nagato resurrects him, he wouldn't be in the old state, it would be his prime because nagato's 7th part has power over life and death
2d) That is what he must have been allowed to think, until Tobi came back and started pulling the strings for akatsuki again... when the time is right he will manipulate him or psyche him to resurrect Madara for a new plan.
2e) Madara was connected to Hashirama stem cell not Gedo as the translation led us to think... btw Madara being connected to the cells didnt mean that he couldnt die, it just allowed him to access longer life force that the senju clan has, so he can stay alive and age longer.
2f) Pain (Nagato was only the leader till Tobi took control again and started giving orders... e.g He was even ordered by Tobi to go and get 9tails... so clearly he was no longer in control of akatsuki, instead Tobi was now d string master.
2g) In the timeline of the story, Nagato was given the eye at a young age (probably during 2nd war, where Jiraya and d rest were named the 3 sennins; after which he trained Nagato and his mates for 3 years, then went back to Konoha and trained Minato later at age 12 since Nagato was older than Minato and Obito who is Minato's student during the 3rd war) so he clearly doesnt know Madara's real face (I'm speculating this)... And another speculation may be that Madara was wearing Mask after he left the village and went into hideout, so Obito started using the same mask.
3) Obito clearly didnt want to join Madara, but after he must have healed up, he went back and noticed that Rin (his dream) was dead... he began to realise what Madara had told him that the world was full of pain. So with that in mind, he came back and accepted Madara's offer as his new dream/goal, since he had no goal of protecting anyone anymore because the one he wanted to protect is dead.
4) By now u should have known that Hashirama cells would have healed him remarkably (if u look at the hand where naruto hit him with rasengan, it has healed), so he was now able to move and probably found a way out or practised with his sharingan on space time jutsu and used it to get out to d village and noticed Rin was dead.
4a) Madara told Obito there was no way out because he didnt want him to leave, remember he is trying to convince Obito to stay because he needed his help, why would he then tell him the way out. Think of this: If there wasn't any way out, how did Madara get in? a way in = a way out
4b) Yes Zetsu was formed from Hashirama stem cell.... as u can see in chapter 602, the human-like creature from the stem cells resembled Zetsu
4c) I dont know about the full details of white and black Zetsu formation and combination...
Hope my explanation helped a lil bit, it might not be 100% accurate though but from my research I can tell u I am sure of these things :ice::D