Re: Can Minato do Kage Bunshin? (must read)
Elaborate please. What hints are these?
Originally Posted by ajpn920
The thing is, we actually CAN say a character cannot do a technique that we haven't seen them do. The way I am reading this so far, it seems that you think that the Shadow Clone jutsu is known by anybody of a high enough rank, when it reality, it is a B-rank jutsu meant for Jonin. In a fantasy world, it is important to put limitations on what certain characters can do, otherwise they just become Gods. Take DBZ for instance, Goku could take a planet out easily, but so could all the villains at the point in time he fought them such as Vegeta, Freeza, Cell, Majin Buu etc. It put all of them on an even plane. If Goku could become a Super Saiyan, but Majin Buu was only as strong as... Piccolo when he fought Raditz, it would not be a fair matchup. Giving characters too many abilities without doing the same to their opponents upsets the balance of the manga. The bad guys are supposed to be stronger due to the fact that it gives the main character challenge. Imagine four Minato's all using FTG. Who could really get past that?
First of, we can't say that a person can't do this because we haven't seen him do when there is an evidence that can back it up and make us conclude that he can. Let's talk about the other powerful nins that did not demonstrate their ability but we know they can because of the hints given by the manga
On top of that, to do it on THIS level
Is an even HIGHER feat.
We know Hashirama could use it because Madara basically STATED that Hashirama used it against him and saw through the technique with his Sharingan.
: We haven't seen him using the wood techniques that Madara was diplaying but we know that it was the original tech from the 1st because wood techniques can only be performed by him that's why Madara stole that ability.
This is fair. No arguments here, but we do not know how long Madara had Wood Release before he died. He stated he "wanted to try it out" after he died, but that could have been with the augmentation Kabuto gave him. It's really unclear. If he had a lesser Wood Release than Hashirama like Yamato, he could have just simply experimented around with a weaker Mokuton. Is it FAIR to assume Madara could use Wood Clones because Hashirama could? Yes. I assumed it too. But we can't use it in an argument because we don't know it for a fact. Nor do any of us know Kishimoto on a personal level (and even if we did, it wouldn't matter) to know what outline he has for his characters powers.
Question: Even if we know that the techniques Madara showed us comes from the 1st but we did not see the 1st doing it, can we say that he cannot do it because we haven't seen him doing it? Or we can just use our common sense that he can do it because it was hinted that the technique Madara uses comes from the 1st? Which is which? Eyes or brain?
This is tricky because it has different translations. Orochimaru said he "knew" all techniques, but all said he could use them. Only problem with this is that it creates a loophole as Kekkai Genkai and Clan techniques like Kagemane jutsu that are kept secret would also be involved. The Byakugan is still in Konoha, yet Hiruzen cannot use Juuken. That could have just been a mistake on Kishimoto's part. There are also times where jutsu such as Flying Thunder God or Chidori would have been beneficial to Hiruzen in his fight against Orochimaru but he did not use them, signifying that he did not know how.
: It was said that he know all Konoha techniques thus given the name professor but we haven't seen him perfoming those techs. He showed us only few.
Question: Even if it was said on the manga that he knows all Konoha techniques, can we say that he can ONLY
do those techniques he showed us so far? If we'll count it, it won't reach 10. Do we believe in what we see or we can use the hint given by the manga that he knows a hundred or thousands of jutsu? Again eyes or brain?
I see where you are going here, the only problem is that the manga has given evidence to the fact that he can use 1,000 jutsu. Unless anything is stated or shown, you cannot just ASSUME it could be done.
: It was said that because of the sharingan, Kakashi was able to copy a thousand jutsu thus giving him the nickname copy ninja. We have not seen him doing a 1000 jutsu so can we say that he can't perform it because we have not seen it? or do we take into consideration what the manga told us. Eyes or Brain?
He may have decided that as Hokage, yes he has the right to read the scroll. However, if he deemed it a technique SUITABLE for him is another manner.
It was mentioned by Hiruzen that the scroll was forbidden by the previous Hokage.
If my memory serves me well, at this point of time, Hiruzen was the Hokage and he took this position back after Minato died which we all know was the Hokage before Hiruzen took the position back. So, since this is part 1 and Hiruzen was the Hokage for the 2nd time, who was the previous Hokage he's referring to?
Don't anybody think that a Hokage has the position to know what was written in the scroll? If they have this oppurtunity, do you think that they don't find time reading what was written on it?
Kage Bunshin is not a special tech, bloodline or a clans technique that is only limited to a few person or a selected one. It's a B rank tech which anybody can learn. From what the manga hinted us so far, I would like to know everyone's opinion by voting on the poll. Is Minato capable of doing Kage Bunshin?
Thanks for reading!:ice:
You fight according to your fighting style. Since Kage Bunshin takes a large amount of chakra, it's suitable for Naruto. Not everyone has chakra to waste, especially on a Bunshin that disappears into smoke after one hit. If rank of technique were the case, Naruto should be able to perform any Katon jutsu since he can perform S-Rank wind Jutsu. Just because Kage Bunshin is, "only b-rank" doesn't mean Minato knew how to use it.
If Minato is going to use chakra taxing techniques, he better spend his time learning ones that benefit his fighting style. Minato need not worry about using Bunshin jutsu. Most Bunshins are used to get out of a tight situation/create a 2 on 1 scenario. The only problem is, who can actually corner Minato? He can catch his opponents off guard more easily with his speed and teleportation jutsu which DOESN'T require handseals.