I'll give it straight : how comes Madara and his brother are the first to achieve MS ? Let me explain : to achieve MS one must live a traumatic event ( seeing or killing the person closest to you, for obito and itachi respectively ). Well I find it hard to believe that Madara and his bro were the first to live such experiences. At first I thought they were the first to truly fully master the sharingan and then they met the requirements but Obito going to 2T->3T->MS just destroyed that theory. Any thoughts ?