Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...
Reason i never get into this thread is because its always pointless and my original post says this. Reason for this is because their reasons can be translated many way. Ive always said that Tobi's kamui will not decide this match up. Reason is because Itachi has shown enough intelligence to grasp the basics of kamui, the person who came up with the famous quote that every technique has a weakness. In fact kishi saying this phrase through itachi should tell the reader that, itachi's intelligence in battle and his calmly nature is what adds to his doujutsu and overall skill.
Whenever i see people argue Itachi's intelligence, nobody brings up the shared vision something that im always baffled about. Itachi decryted the shared vision and countered it much, much quicker than jiraiya and his 2 sage's. Itachi had already noted the shared vision and knew that if he went ahead and attacked nagato with susano, after seeing naruto's chakra absorbed the same would be done to susano. He blinded nagato so to speak with kunai's therefore the shared vision wasnt there, which if it was nagato wouldve seen susano and countered it possibly with preta path. Jiraiya and his toads did note the shared vision, however they didnt fully decode it until they went in the tunnel and came to the conclusion that the shared vision is like a security camera and what not, its after they decoded it they come up with a strategy. Itachi had already decoded and countered it much, much quicker than jiraiya and his toads and who said 2 or more heads was better than one.
The reason i talked about the shared vision though not directly linked with this thread, its to show that itachi's intelligence in battle adds to his power and if anything this power rivals his dojutsu powers. Every character that has had a duel with Tobi has figured out the basics of kamui. Fu & Torune did it. Minato did it. Team kakashi, particularly sakura did it. Itachi has shown enough feats to warrant the idea that he would grasp the basics of kamui, that is something that i dont believe anybody should have a problem with. Next issue is konan, who hadnt been in a duel with tobi but instead had watched him kamui in and out of when she is close to him. Example is here;
Im certain this isnt the first time that tobi has used kamui when konan/nagato (deva path) was with him. Its this info that allowed konan to come up with her life long plan. Tobi clearly wasnt as weary of either one of them, or else he wouldnt have used kamui in their midst.
Tobi on the underhand said he kept a few secrets from Itachi;
This could very well be that Tobi NEVER used kamui when close to Itachi. Its very possible that Itachi didnt even know that tobi had a technique like kamui and the manga supports this idea because itachi sealed amaterasu in sasuke's eye, a technique that was bypassed by kamui though it caught tobi off guard. In order to figure out an opponents ability you would either have to fight them or gain info on them. Itachi is intelligent however he isnt a fortune teller. When tobi and itachi never fought and going by the manga itachi never knew he had kamui, how is he supposed to know of its weakness. I dont believe Itachi even knew he had kamui.
The basic intel on kamui is that he is vulnerable when he needs to attack
Fu and Torune grasped the basics in a matter of seconds.
It comes down to a similar situation that minato was in and though in that situation it was a duel of speed (s/t) ability. In this case it comes down to speed, however this is ninjutsu production which itachi isnt rivalled in. Itachi has shown the ability to produce a number of technique's in mere seconds something that 2 sharingan user's in sasuke/kakashi has had difficulty with. If it comes down to who lands a hit first, itachi's ninjutsu production which isnt rivalled gives him a good chance of landing a hit on obito if obito decides to attack which leaves him open. Itachi's handseals will allow him a good advantage. Obito when it comes to ninjutsu will NOT produce a technique faster than itachi can
If itachi goes on to figure out what konan did;
Itachi is most likely the winner because along with this info and him being a much better fighter than tobi he takes this. Unlike others who have an issue with kamui, im not too fused about it. Im more fussed about complete izanagi a technique that if obito was to win this match up he will need
The next thing that those against say is that if itachi couldve killed obito he wouldve, instead he sealed amaterasu in sasuke because he knew he couldnt. The first wrong with this sentence is Obito. Itachi thought obito was madara and everytime that obito has used this name it has struck some sort of fear into his opponents, look at the kages reaction at the summit when obito introduced himself as madara. Instead of saying that itachi knew he couldnt kill obito, perhaps you should think clearly that obito's persona as madara is what protected him and that is what allowed him t oachieve his plans. The name he uses is also a protection. So even though itachi called madara (obito) a shell of his former self, perhaps since he thought obito was madara, he didnt believe he could face him and that is why he used sasuke. Obito using madara's name is a strong argument to state that, itachi possibly didnt believe he could beat madara and not obito. Madara's name possibly protected obito. Madara's name is possibly what struck abit of hesitation in even itachi's heart which lead him not to confront obito. If itachi thought obito was obito and not madara, then maybe he wouldve confronted him, however to say itachi was 'afraid' of obito is wrong, he was 'afraid' of madara.
Obito has used this name on numerous occasions to his advantage. From recruiting akatskui members, kisame for example. Who later said that, the fact that obito (madara) is the man behind akatsuki gives him assurance. He has used the name at the summit to call the 4th great war. He has used the name on plenty occasions. All went along because of the name, if obito introduced himself as obito, none of his plans wouldve succeeded.
Tsunade "The power is in the name" - she was talking about madara.