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    Re: Hashirama Senju: Analyzed

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    looking at it "Logically" is the problem, because it's "A man sized scroll" doesn't mean it's that heavy nor does it prove they weigh the same as him, Both naruto and jiraiya could move around with zero problems at all while having a Giant assed scroll strapped to their backs.

    Even a 12 year old naruto who was exhausted from training for shadow clones had no problems holding it, Unless it's logical for a 12 year old child to be able to hold a grown man's weight on his back even while exhausted.
    (i think he was 12)

    Now if he carried weights like this on his back



    Then i'd be impressed. Saying he has a 5 in speed/strength because he carries around a handful of giant scrolls isn't that credible.
    It isn't so much his ability to carry them so much has him being able to carry them and BATTLE MADARA. Like FULL ON BATTLE. Again, he carried several. And I hate to do this but, Madara also said he was the strongest shinobi of his period. Plus, he was a Kage in constant battle. He would be on the top of his game. If you say someone who battled the Nine-tails and Madara isnt incredibly strong and fast, then I'd hate to see your definition...
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama Senju: Analyzed

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundercles View Post
    It isn't so much his ability to carry them so much has him being able to carry them and BATTLE MADARA. Like FULL ON BATTLE. Again, he carried several. And I hate to do this but, Madara also said he was the strongest shinobi of his period. Plus, he was a Kage in constant battle. He would be on the top of his game. If you say someone who battled the Nine-tails and Madara isnt incredibly strong and fast, then I'd hate to see your definition...
    Be it One or several, it's still not credible to give him 5 in Strength/speed simply because he carries scrolls, Look at the scan of Lee i linked, Lee carries and Runs/jumps around with incredibly heavy weights, Far heavier than the scrolls you speak of, Yet in part one his strength was a mere 3 and 4.5 in speed and his current Speed/strength is 4.5.

    Simply carrying heavy items doesn't automatically make you strong/fast at all.
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama Senju: Analyzed

    ehh genjutsu like 3, speed 4 or 4.5 besides that everything seems reasonable.
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama Senju: Analyzed

    I disagree about the Part with Tsunade, Madara told her that Her techniques pailed in comparison with Hashirama's and that his techniques were on another level, as he could use them without handseals, But that was when he saw her using Mystical Palm ALONE


    Then When he saw her heal without Handseals, he said that her abilities were on par with Hashirama's because she possessed the same technique that Hashirama once had
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama Senju: Analyzed

    5 speed??? 5 strength? I'm sorry , only things I disagree with... Hashirama was never shown in the manga to be a speedster type. I see no reason for giving him speed on the level of gai , who trained his life to attain that... he probably is below kakashi who has one of the fastest bases in the manga. (4.5)

    Strength???? Once again 5 strength has been shown to be attributed to taijutsu beasts etc.. Kisame who's strength was stated to be superhuman and could operate samehada with one hand... Gai

    Stanima 5? yes definitely
    intelligence 5? wouldn't doubt it
    taijutsu 5? stretch, i'd give him 4 or 4.5
    ninjutsu 5? definitely
    genjutsu 5? maybe, 4/4.5 to be safe
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama Senju: Analyzed

    To those who disagree about strength and speed, we've seen Madara's strength and speed and I can only reason that Hashi's would have to be the same, else he wouldn't have been able to defeat Madara. Think about it. Yes, he hasn't shown us much, but he would have to be as close to Madara as possible, if not over just a tad.
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama Senju: Analyzed

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    Re: Hashirama Senju: Analyzed

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    5 speed??? 5 strength? I'm sorry , only things I disagree with... Hashirama was never shown in the manga to be a speedster type. I see no reason for giving him speed on the level of gai , who trained his life to attain that... he probably is below kakashi who has one of the fastest bases in the manga. (4.5)

    Strength???? Once again 5 strength has been shown to be attributed to taijutsu beasts etc.. Kisame who's strength was stated to be superhuman and could operate samehada with one hand... Gai

    Stanima 5? yes definitely
    intelligence 5? wouldn't doubt it
    taijutsu 5? stretch, i'd give him 4 or 4.5
    ninjutsu 5? definitely
    genjutsu 5? maybe, 4/4.5 to be safe
    My bad, it should be Power, not strength.
     
         

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