Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die
I agree. Here are other reasons I dont buy into heaven or hell.
If you have children of your own as well, you would realize that no loving parent would ever punish their child by burning them, even for a second. And for eternity? If god is Just, regardless of the heinous acts you could commit on earth, in no way would it be fair to have someone burn forever. That is a lop sided scale and the bible says gods justice is perfect.
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are justice: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
Also, the bible mentions hades or sheol when people die, which is really just the common grave of all mankind, if you look at what the translated word really means it literally means grave.
When Jesus did mention Gehenna, the context and translation of that greek word refers to the valley of Hinnom, which was south east of Jerusalem. The valley of Hinnom was what the city used as a dump, and they had fire to assist with getting rid of the garbage, and sulfur and brimstone were added to assist the burning. For people who were lawbreakers, there dead bodies were thrown in as a symbol that they were unfit for a burial. When Jesus said someone would be pitched into Gehenna he was saying that after the resurrection mentioned in John below, if someone was truly unrepentant of their sins, they would be cut off forever. No one ever came back from Gehenna, however no one living was ever thrown into the pit as punishment. ***add*** Also, Jesus wasnt saying people would literally be thrown into Gehenna. He was using this as an example that the people of his time could understand. ***
Ecclesiastes 9:5 says this:
For the living know that they will die;
But the dead know nothing,
And they have no more reward,
For the memory of them is forgotten.
John 5 28 and 29 says this
Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation
both the new King James versions (I personally don't use this version, it is just a widely accepted version)
Also, If we were to think that evil people were sent to hell to be tormented by Satan, that would really give the devil something to be good for. The Devil in the bible is good for nothing, he is the reason things in this world are so bad, and according to Revelation 12:9 he's not in hell, he's on earth.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
*IF* you believe in the bible dont let people scare you with heaven or hell. But I spent a lot of time doing independent research I just happen to know ALOT about the bible.
what happens to righteous people is found at Psalms 37:11
But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
this goes hand in hand with what Matthew 5:5 says:
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Also Revelation 21: 3,4 says:
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Those verses describe these people:
After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands
The reason no one could number that group is our lives are not predetermined in the bible. So that Number could be gigantic or small its up to the individual. This also tells us that no race is greater in god's eyes, they all have the same chance for repentance.
The number of people in heaven however is numbered:
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
These are with Jesus, the sacrificial lamb, these fulfill god's prophecy of 12000 out of each the 12 tribes of Israel, which was transferred into a "Spiritual Israel" when the Jewish people rejected Jesus.
I could go on for hours