Re: Naruto Manga 473 Discussion / 474 Predictions
Originally Posted by Itachi Sama
If you look at the fight between Orochimaru and naruto in kyubi mode again, you'll see that Oro got really hurt when naruto had only three tails out..., he whiped his arm off and forced him to regenerate his body. Then, when Naruto used the forth tail, he cut Orochimaru in two...., what I mean is that Orochimaru got seriously hurt by Naruto with three tails out and he got a worse injury when Naruto cut him in two during the four tails phase, which is a fact that lets us see that Jiraya was way stronger than Orochimaru, because first, he didn't fought to kill Naruto (as you said) and second, he didn't get as seriously wounded as Oro did (who survived its wounds by regenerating his body, but got really weakened in the process). If Oro's fight against Naruto had gone on, he would've been killed because up to that point, everything that he had used against four tails naruto had been useless, in offense and defense.
On the Nagato part, I don't think Jiraya would have won if he knew his secret either. As you said before, I think Nagato used that phrase to show his respect for his master. To conceive Nagato's strength, we can remember when Jiraya recalled that Nagato controlled all the elements and mastered all the mainstream ninjutsus when he was just 10 years old (Jiraya said that something like that was unheard) which is incredible..., and besides, we also know that all the powers of the Rinnegan that he transmited to Pain's bodies are merged into his own body...., so we can imagine the kind of ninja that Nagato was when he fought personaly....(To back this statemente we can look at when Pain fought Naruto, where Naruto said that he just needed to defeat god realm's body to win, and Nagato told him that he shouldn't think so because the original was still there).
We all got a chance to taste a little of the experience of watching Nagato fight in person when he fought against the Konoha and Amegakure ninjas (Hanzo included) when Yahiko died..., and he was still inexperienced by then, but even though, it was amazing. (I'd say that that was the first time that Nagato had a real fight, and for starters, he did incredibly well).