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    "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Is this true?

    Use this scenario for a fair comparison. Two normal shinobi born into the world.

    One was born with the EMS, the special chakra, jutsus and everything that comes with it.

    One was born with the Byakugan, the special chakra, jutsus and everything that comes with it.


    Who would become stronger and why?


    Most agree the EMS shinobi is much stronger. Much much stronger.
     
         
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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Sharingan is the ultimate ninjutsu tool, Byakugan is the ultimate awareness tool


    Sharingan has the strongest genjutsu, Byakugan should have the insight to see through the genjutsu


    Sharingan users have the chakra for fastest shunshin, Byakgan users have the insight to read the fastest movement



    Hamura was Hagoromo's equal and had the stronger Yin affinity, the Hyuga's eyes give them potential to read through every jutsu like Itachi did, the only difference is that their observation feats come primarily from their eyes while Itachi mostly relied on his rational thinking.


    The ability to read through any jutsu and negate any jutsu with Juken ultimately gives them equal potential to any of Hagoromo's descendants, you hate hearing this but Yin = Yang, Hamura's potential = Hagoromo's potential
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    There's never been a Byakugan or Sharingan user on par with each other. One is always several tiers above the other.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiSama View Post
    Sharingan is the ultimate ninjutsu tool, Byakugan is the ultimate awareness tool


    Sharingan has the strongest genjutsu, Byakugan should have the insight to see through the genjutsu


    Sharingan users have the chakra for fastest shunshin, Byakgan users have the insight to read the fastest movement



    Hamura was Hagoromo's equal and had the stronger Yin affinity, the Hyuga's eyes give them potential to read through every jutsu like Itachi did, the only difference is that their observation feats come primarily from their eyes while Itachi mostly relied on his rational thinking.


    The ability to read through any jutsu and negate any jutsu with Juken ultimately gives them equal potential to any of Hagoromo's descendants, you hate hearing this but Yin = Yang, Hamura's potential = Hagoromo's potential
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Byakugan View Post
    There's never been a Byakugan or Sharingan user on par with each other. One is always several tiers above the other.
    Not what I asked.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Course not. To our knowledge the Byakugan can at the very best be argued to surpass three tomoe Sharingan by itself, but in no way in hell is it stronger than an EMS.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    EMS and all manga feats that supported it. I dont know what is the point of this thread.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    My personal beleif is 1 defeats jutsu the other defeats chakra. They're actually pretty balanced if developed to their peaks.

    I also think kishi should've made a rivalry between Hyuga/Uchiha and the senju as the peace makers.

    Anyway EMS negs
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubious View Post
    Not what I asked.
    Your question can't be answered because there have never been equal Sharingan and Byakugan users. Kaguya, Hamura, and Toneri are above most Sharingan users, while most Sharingan users are above most Hyugas.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    The byakugan loses to a PS pretty handily. Hell it loses to a regular Susano'o. It might even lose without a Susano'o involved depending on the user's MS abilities.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Byakugan View Post
    Your question can't be answered because there have never been equal Sharingan and Byakugan users. Kaguya, Hamura, and Toneri are above most Sharingan users, while most Sharingan users are above most Hyugas.
    Hanabi Hime solos all of those fodder.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Byakugan isn't even comparable to 3 tomoe let alone MS/EMS.

    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiSama View Post
    Sharingan is the ultimate ninjutsu tool, Byakugan is the ultimate awareness tool


    Sharingan has the strongest genjutsu, Byakugan should have the insight to see through the genjutsu


    Sharingan users have the chakra for fastest shunshin, Byakgan users have the insight to read the fastest movement



    Hamura was Hagoromo's equal and had the stronger Yin affinity, the Hyuga's eyes give them potential to read through every jutsu like Itachi did, the only difference is that their observation feats come primarily from their eyes while Itachi mostly relied on his rational thinking.


    The ability to read through any jutsu and negate any jutsu with Juken ultimately gives them equal potential to any of Hagoromo's descendants, you hate hearing this but Yin = Yang, Hamura's potential = Hagoromo's potential
    Stop with the fic.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Byakugan View Post
    Your question can't be answered because there have never been equal Sharingan and Byakugan users. Kaguya, Hamura, and Toneri are above most Sharingan users, while most Sharingan users are above most Hyugas.
    Its clearly being answered at the moment. You and your over techinicalities dont mean shit tbh.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    The greatest feat in manga that included EMS vs the greatest feat in manga that included Byakugan this is result :

     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubious View Post
    Its clearly being answered at the moment. You and your over techinicalities dont mean shit tbh.
    Alright then, I'll stop BSing.

     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Byakugan View Post
    Alright then, I'll stop BSing.

    But you cant even answer the question are you that hurt.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubious View Post
    But you cant even answer the question are you that hurt.
    The panel shows a Byakugan technique demolishing an EMS technique.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Byakugan View Post
    The panel shows a Byakugan technique demolishing an EMS technique.
    Im sure I dont have to tell you how far above Kaguya is than of Sasuke. You were saying that in your first post but you still fail to answer the question in the OP
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubious View Post
    Im sure I dont have to tell you how far above Kaguya is than of Sasuke.
    That was the point of my first post.

    You were saying that in your first post but you still fail to answer the question in the OP
    Give me a Sharingan and Byakugan user that are equal then. Because none exist.
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Byakugan View Post
    That was the point of my first post.



    Give me a Sharingan and Byakugan user that are equal then. Because none exist.
    One is born with EMS and one is born with Byakugan who becomes stronger. Shouldn't be a hard question to answer. Everyone else is doing fine. Whats your gripe?
     
         

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    Re: "Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

    Nope, it is obviously not. But the Byakugan/Gentle Fist had a lot of potential to be a very powerful Doujtsu that could even rival the EMS but it simply lacked the development it needed.

    I am sure Hamura had a lot of OP Gentle Fist techniques that made him capable of fighting Kaguya herself and probably on par with Rinnegan Hagoromo.
     
         

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