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    GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninjutsu

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    So let me break it down with the Gentle Fist Info before I go and wank the Gates and how GREAT is REALLY is.


    First describing Ninjutsu.


    Madara break it down for me...


    More Viz break down


    Poor old man Hagoromo didn't want any of this.


    Okay now the anti thesis the Gentle Fist.
    NOT THE TAIJUTSU but the chakra emitting ability.


    Neji studying the web.


    Neji's conclusion.




    So GF can destroy anything made out of chakra even ninjutsu.

    NOTE: THE TECH AND THE ABILITY TO DO SO ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

    Speed, reaction time, chakra amount and other factors go into play.
    But this isn't about Neji but about future threats.

    Kaguya is the pinnacle of GF


    More then likely she can destroy things coming at here that are made of charkra if she wasn't nerfed.


    NOW Look Here:
    Stamina for Taijutsu and Chakra for Ninjutsu.

    GF or Otsutsuki GF can't destroy stamina like it does Ninjutsu.



    Guy's Aura and abilities are just that Stamina, sweat, etc... and not chakra.


    Goes to show that while other things are slowly becoming irrelevant with time, the GATES are still one of the greatest abilities in Narutoverse.


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    Water Prison Technique (Suirou no Jutsu)

    Ninjutsu, C-rank, Supplementary, Close-range

    User: Momochi Zabuza

    The water prison nobody escapes from!!

    A spherical prison created out of water. Destroying this jutsu from the inside is nearly impossible. However, it’s indispensable for the caster to be in contact with part of the cell for it to maintain its shape, so if they take their hand away, the jutsu will be dispelled immediately. This jutsu shows its true might not when one is alone, but when many allies are present.

    Because of the nature of this jutsu, things can get a little difficult if one is attacked by a third party.

     
         
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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    This things about GF and gates should be well known .
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

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    This things about GF and gates should be well known .
    some alts don't know though

    What would be sick if the final battle isn't even Naruto or Boruto but Otsutsuki head GF vs GATES to the death
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

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    some alts don't know though

    What would be sick if the final battle isn't even Naruto or Boruto but Otsutsuki head GF vs GATES to the death

    Gai's Evening Elephant vs Kaguya's Eighty Gods Vacuum Palm clash would be nice to see.

    Eighty Gods vacuum palm destroy things made of chakra but Evening Elephant doesn't have chakra so you may be surprised with the outcome.
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    Quote Originally Posted by Tauren Chieftain View Post

    Gai's Evening Elephant vs Kaguya's Eighty Gods Vacuum Palm clash would be nice to see.

    Eighty Gods vacuum palm destroy things made of chakra but Evening Elephant doesn't have chakra so you may be surprised with the outcome.
    yup it is a bout that we've never seen before

    I wonder who created the Gates, I hope we got more lore for it seeing as it is literally so OP
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    - Madara said Chakra is converted into Ninjutsu. Converted is the keyword. Chakra is not made into Ninjutsu but converted. Convertion is changing the entire substance into another.

    - GSB absorbs only chakra. Kisame thought the blue aura was pure chakra like Rasengan. The sharks can't absorb Ninjutsu.

    - Ninjutsu absorption is impossible, did you know that? Why do I say this? Because Preta path is a Sealing jutsu, not a chakra absorption jutsu.

    The top side says Sealing jutsu. Not even Hashirama wood dragon can absorb Ninjutsu, only chakra. Only Rinnegan has shown the unique ability of absorbing Ninjutsu and that is only some superhuman otsutsukis ones which are not sealing jutsus.

    - Neji creates a needle like chakra to penetrate the webs, if he can simply break any type of Ninjutsu he'll smash it with his palm or Fist. Why doesnt he do so? He has to precisely attack the chakra inside the webs just like Samehada has to absorb pure chakra and that is not the equivalent of absorbing Ninjutsu.

    - Gentle fist is useless against Nature transformations, only pure chakra constructions are getting destroyed, not only that, they have to precisely focus chakra in thier fingertips to insert into a chakra substance and destroy it, something which is not practical and that is why we never see any Hyuga doing that "Destroying chakra" in practical life. Its just in theory. If thier strongest prodigy struggled against some small webs and had to focus, they you know where this hype is going, baseless hype.

    Your scans prove you wrong. Chakra is used in creating Ninjutsu, not necessarily the opposite. The only jutsus we know are made completely of chakra are Rasengan and Susano'O.
     
         
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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    Quote Originally Posted by Uverdore9 View Post
    - Madara said Chakra is converted into Ninjutsu. Converted is the keyword. Chakra is not made into Ninjutsu but converted. Convertion is changing the entire substance into another.

    - GSB absorbs only chakra. Kisame thought the blue aura was pure chakra like Rasengan. The sharks can't absorb Ninjutsu.

    - Ninjutsu absorption is impossible, did you know that? Why do I say this? Because Preta path is a Sealing jutsu, not a chakra absorption jutsu.

    The top side says Sealing jutsu. Not even Hashirama wood dragon can absorb Ninjutsu, only chakra. Only Rinnegan has shown the unique ability of absorbing Ninjutsu and that is only some superhuman otsutsukis ones which are not sealing jutsus.

    - Neji creates a needle like chakra to penetrate the webs, if he can simply break any type of Ninjutsu he'll smash it with his palm or Fist. Why doesnt he do so? He has to precisely attack the chakra inside the webs just like Samehada has to absorb pure chakra and that is not the equivalent of absorbing Ninjutsu.

    - Gentle fist is useless against Nature transformations, only pure chakra constructions are getting destroyed, not only that, they have to precisely focus chakra in thier fingertips to insert into a chakra substance and destroy it, something which is not practical and that is why we never see any Hyuga doing that "Destroying chakra" in practical life. Its just in theory. If thier strongest prodigy struggled against some small webs and had to focus, they you know where this hype is going, baseless hype.

    Your scans prove you wrong. Chakra is used in creating Ninjutsu, not necessarily the opposite. The only jutsus we know are made completely of chakra are Rasengan and Susano'O.
    again no one cares what Preta path does

    it just uses another way to deal with ninjitsu as it is a spirit based power


    you keeping on spouting things without any actual scans to back it up



    Again convert someone to something else is still the same thing it is made out of





    your statements have no ground as you just compare Rinnegan feats and how they do things with the general populace when the GF is something else entirely then preta path

    let alone again you never provide scans to actually deny the said VIZ statements

    bring me scans of GF and Ninjutsu to debunk
     
         
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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    Gentle Fist CANNOT "destroy chakra," only "chakra-built substances" stands no chance against it. Eight Gates Formation being "better" is your opinion. According to Naruto, Taijutsu requires no chakra, relays on stamina, and quicker than Ninjutsu. Using Kisame fight was a bad example.
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

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    again no one cares what Preta path does

    it just uses another way to deal with ninjitsu as it is a spirit based power


    you keeping on spouting things without any actual scans to back it up



    Again convert someone to something else is still the same thing it is made out of





    your statements have no ground as you just compare Rinnegan feats and how they do things with the general populace when the GF is something else entirely then preta path

    let alone again you never provide scans to actually deny the said VIZ statements

    bring me scans of GF and Ninjutsu to debunk
    Your entire theory is irrelevant. Bring me scans it can destroy Ninjutsu like you say cuz I havent any of that in this manga. I dont care about your fanbase. Bring me appriopriate scans of what you say is right. Preta path absorption itself is proof hyugas cant destroy Ninjutsu only chakra. Your scans proves you 100% wrong, Madara says convert not made, so obviously a change is taking place. The above scan had the sealing part cut out,

    Here you go. Sealing jutsu. Just like Tenten uses sealing scrolls to seal weapons. Ninjutsu cannot be absorbed, why do you think Jiraiya and the frogs were shocked here:

    The two frogs + Jiraiya have lots of experience and knowledge yet never thought someone can absorb Ninjutsu. Proving your theory wrong. If hashirama and Madara and other top shinobi couldnt, then its not possible with jutsu alone, you need a Eye power to accomplish that feat, only Rinnegan has shown it. No on cares if Neji broke chakra, it stands to fact that he cant do the same to Ninjutsu as samehada. If that was the case hyuga wouldve been the strongest.
     
         

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    Hyuuga fans vs Uchiha fans.
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    Quote Originally Posted by Uverdore9 View Post
    Your entire theory is irrelevant. Bring me scans it can destroy Ninjutsu like you say cuz I havent any of that in this manga. I dont care about your fanbase. Bring me appriopriate scans of what you say is right. Preta path absorption itself is proof hyugas cant destroy Ninjutsu only chakra. Your scans proves you 100% wrong, Madara says convert not made, so obviously a change is taking place. The above scan had the sealing part cut out,

    Here you go. Sealing jutsu. Just like Tenten uses sealing scrolls to seal weapons. Ninjutsu cannot be absorbed, why do you think Jiraiya and the frogs were shocked here:

    The two frogs + Jiraiya have lots of experience and knowledge yet never thought someone can absorb Ninjutsu. Proving your theory wrong. If hashirama and Madara and other top shinobi couldnt, then its not possible with jutsu alone, you need a Eye power to accomplish that feat, only Rinnegan has shown it. No on cares if Neji broke chakra, it stands to fact that he cant do the same to Ninjutsu as samehada. If that was the case hyuga wouldve been the strongest.
    look when you convert water from liquid into solid (ice)

    Do I say that the ice isn't made out of water?

    Stop giving me Rinnegan stuff, is the GF a rinnegan ability? (Also you are showing me Senjutsu oil)

    Then why post it? Again provide your scans instead of providing opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by アヌビス View Post
    Gentle Fist CANNOT "destroy chakra," only "chakra-built substances" stands no chance against it. Eight Gates Formation being "better" is your opinion. According to Naruto, Taijutsu requires no chakra, relays on stamina, and quicker than Ninjutsu. Using Kisame fight was a bad example.
    this thread is mostly about Ninjutsu, aka a chakra built substance

    let alone saying "chakra built substance" literally means chakra since what is that subtance made out of?

    for chakra itself they usually just seal it with tenkutsu sealing
    also so far we have no anti thesis for Gates beyond the user's health, energy and life



    Quote Originally Posted by sdkljfsdjnsjnoids View Post
    Hyuuga fans vs Uchiha fans.
    nah more like I am just trying to wank the Gates this time
     
         
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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

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    look when you convert water from liquid into solid (ice)

    Do I say that the ice isn't made out of water?

    Stop giving me Rinnegan stuff, is the GF a rinnegan ability? (Also you are showing me Senjutsu oil)

    Then why post it? Again provide your scans instead of providing opinion.


    this thread is mostly about Ninjutsu, aka a chakra built substance

    let alone saying "chakra built substance" literally means chakra since what is that subtance made out of?

    for chakra itself they usually just seal it with tenkutsu sealing
    also so far we have no anti thesis for Gates beyond the user's health, energy and life





    nah more like I am just trying to wank the Gates this time
    You'd have been right if Samehada or neji destroyed and absorbed the fireball and web respectively. But they didnt.
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    Quote Originally Posted by Uverdore9 View Post
    You'd have been right if Samehada or neji destroyed and absorbed the fireball and web respectively. But they didnt.
    Again Neji cut the chakra


    but also in the OP I showed him doing it with another GF method

    Orochimaru even warned about it

    try to post a scan refuting their statements since you are just reply with no backing


    Also post a sword cutting a fireball let alone with that large pathway of no fire
     
         
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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

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    Again Neji cut the chakra


    but also in the OP I showed him doing it with another GF method

    Orochimaru even warned about it

    try to post a scan refuting their statements since you are just reply with no backing


    Also post a sword cutting a fireball let alone with that large pathway of no fire
    Neji says chakra build not chakra made. Built means chakra is one of the component.

    Clearly neji has been prove true as he showed he cannot attack the Ninjutsu directly but has to cut through it with precision and attack the flowing chakra.

    Samehada is a broad sword with spikes and Killer bee swinged it. It had force going on. If killer bee kept it stationary you'd have a point.
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    Quote Originally Posted by Uverdore9 View Post
    Neji says chakra build not chakra made. Built means chakra is one of the component.

    Clearly neji has been prove true as he showed he cannot attack the Ninjutsu directly but has to cut through it with precision and attack the flowing chakra.

    Samehada is a broad sword with spikes and Killer bee swinged it. It had force going on. If killer bee kept it stationary you'd have a point.
    Ninjutsu again is from charkra
    again like the water and ice logic it can be converstated to different states but the basis of the components is still the same

    Neji was just also stating that unlike regular ninjutsu this also had something else, the users spit

    look at the panel the OP of him studying it he enphases the chakra also for the Samehada bit

    Ninjitsu is a chakra subtance

    nice try though


    Again I wait for scans
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

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    Ninjutsu again is from charkra
    again like the water and ice logic it can be converstated to different states but the basis of the components is still the same

    Neji was just also stating that unlike regular ninjutsu this also had something else, the users spit

    look at the panel the OP of him studying it he enphases the chakra also for the Samehada bit


    Ninjitsu is a chakra subtance

    nice try though


    Again I wait for scans
    Neji never said "unlike normal Ninjutsu...his has spit..". Neji never said that. Kidomaru's jutsu runs chakra like electricity inside the web's center. Gentle cant destroy chakra converted to Ninjutsu, kidomarus pure chakra was inside the webs, even neji said chakra built substances, why didnt he say "Ninjutsu"?
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    Lmao,

    who wants someone else all up in there business, all the time.

    Sounds like a natural reaction.
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    Quote Originally Posted by Uverdore9 View Post
    Neji never said "unlike normal Ninjutsu...his has spit..". Neji never said that. Kidomaru's jutsu runs chakra like electricity inside the web's center. Gentle cant destroy chakra converted to Ninjutsu, kidomarus pure chakra was inside the webs, even neji said chakra built substances, why didnt he say "Ninjutsu"?
    Neji never said I can't destroy Ninjitsu

    he said Chakra built substance can stand against his GF

    Ninjutsu is a chakra built substance end of


    again provide a counter scan of what chakra is made/built out of
     
         

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    Re: GF can destroy chakra, Ninjutsu is Chakra! Gates is Sweat and is better then Ninj

    Quote Originally Posted by Reviewing Logic View Post
    Neji never said I can't destroy Ninjitsu

    he said Chakra built substance can stand against his GF

    Ninjutsu is a chakra built substance end of


    again provide a counter scan of what chakra is made/built out of
    Neji didnt say Ninjutsu. Thread/
     
         

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